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#1: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-18 03:36:06 by s_knight8

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The deadline for doing so remains a ways away, but Derek Fisher still hasn't
reported for a physical exam to complete the trade of the veteran guard from
Golden State to the Jazz.

In the five days since the deal was formally announced, Fisher hasn't spoken
with Utah media, either - despite repeated requests through intermediaries
including his agent's office and the team.

And his initial reaction to news of the swap, made to a California
newspaper, made it seem he wasn't exactly thrilled.
Franchise officials, however, aren't worried.

&quot;We traded for him, and we received his contract, and we expect him to
report,&quot; Jazz basketball operations senior vice president Kevin O'Connor
said.

O'Connor took the somewhat extraordinary step of traveling to California to
meet with Fisher earlier this month, after the trade had been agreed to but
before league rules permitted it to be made official.

Last week, however, Jazz owner Larry H. Miller shed light on the discussion,
saying Fisher told O'Connor, &quot;I don't have anything against you guys,&quot; but
that he was &quot;pretty sure I was going someplace else&quot; and &quot;had my heart set
on a couple of places.&quot;

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#2: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-18 06:07:58 by Larry Coon

s_knight8 wrote:

&gt; The deadline for doing so remains a ways away, but Derek Fisher still hasn't
&gt; reported for a physical exam to complete the trade of the veteran guard from
&gt; Golden State to the Jazz.

It's a non-issue. Neither side is in any particular hurry.
Fish has already spoken to the team's equipment manager, AK,
and some of the other players. He's not holding out or
anything.


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#3: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-18 06:19:36 by Fred

Larry Coon wrote:
&gt; s_knight8 wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;The deadline for doing so remains a ways away, but Derek Fisher still hasn't
&gt;&gt;reported for a physical exam to complete the trade of the veteran guard from
&gt;&gt;Golden State to the Jazz.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; It's a non-issue. Neither side is in any particular hurry.
&gt; Fish has already spoken to the team's equipment manager, AK,
&gt; and some of the other players. He's not holding out or
&gt; anything.

Perhaps he's worried that there are screens on the Delta Center's doors

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#4: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-18 20:03:13 by Greg Lentz

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:19:36 GMT, Fred &lt;<a href="mailto:faux.news&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">faux.news&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Larry Coon wrote:
&gt;&gt; s_knight8 wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;The deadline for doing so remains a ways away, but Derek Fisher still hasn't
&gt;&gt;&gt;reported for a physical exam to complete the trade of the veteran guard from
&gt;&gt;&gt;Golden State to the Jazz.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; It's a non-issue. Neither side is in any particular hurry.
&gt;&gt; Fish has already spoken to the team's equipment manager, AK,
&gt;&gt; and some of the other players. He's not holding out or
&gt;&gt; anything.
&gt;
&gt;Perhaps he's worried that there are screens on the Delta Center's doors

Explain please?
--
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#5: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-18 22:22:19 by drg

Greg Lentz wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:19:36 GMT, Fred &lt;<a href="mailto:faux.news&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">faux.news&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;Larry Coon wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; s_knight8 wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;The deadline for doing so remains a ways away, but Derek Fisher still hasn't
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;reported for a physical exam to complete the trade of the veteran guard from
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Golden State to the Jazz.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; It's a non-issue. Neither side is in any particular hurry.
&gt; &gt;&gt; Fish has already spoken to the team's equipment manager, AK,
&gt; &gt;&gt; and some of the other players. He's not holding out or
&gt; &gt;&gt; anything.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Perhaps he's worried that there are screens on the Delta Center's doors
&gt;
&gt; Explain please?
&gt; --
&gt; Greg Lentz

I think Fred is referring to the fact that Fish was never very good at
handling screens or picks when he was trying to guard the opposing
point guard.

Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah. But given the
amount of money that he's due, I don't have much sympathy for him.

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#6: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-18 22:26:05 by John

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&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I think Fred is referring to the fact that Fish was never very good at
&gt; handling screens or picks when he was trying to guard the opposing
&gt; point guard.
&gt;
&gt; Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah.

Why? They are on the rise with a nucleus of good young talent that barely
missed the playoffs and Sloan has already said he is excited about getting
Fischer.

&gt;But given the
&gt; amount of money that he's due, I don't have much sympathy for him.
&gt;

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#7: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-19 00:49:39 by Larry Coon

drg wrote:

&gt; Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah.

Especially a freshwater fish.


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#8: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-19 00:55:55 by Greg Lentz

On 18 Jul 2006 13:22:19 -0700, &quot;drg&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:drg_75&#64;pacbell.net" target="_blank">drg_75&#64;pacbell.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;Greg Lentz wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:19:36 GMT, Fred &lt;<a href="mailto:faux.news&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">faux.news&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;Larry Coon wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; s_knight8 wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;The deadline for doing so remains a ways away, but Derek Fisher still hasn't
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;reported for a physical exam to complete the trade of the veteran guard from
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Golden State to the Jazz.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; It's a non-issue. Neither side is in any particular hurry.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Fish has already spoken to the team's equipment manager, AK,
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; and some of the other players. He's not holding out or
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; anything.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;Perhaps he's worried that there are screens on the Delta Center's doors
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Explain please?
&gt;
&gt;I think Fred is referring to the fact that Fish was never very good at
&gt;handling screens or picks when he was trying to guard the opposing
&gt;point guard.

Yeah, I'd say that's still true.

&gt;Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah. But given the
&gt;amount of money that he's due, I don't have much sympathy for him.

Me either. Think of all the wives he can afford. Bill Paxton, eat your
heart out.
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#9: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-19 19:04:30 by Gary Collard

Larry Coon wrote:
&gt;
&gt; drg wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah.
&gt;
&gt; Especially a freshwater fish.

Unless somebody steps up, Line of the Week.

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#10: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-19 19:47:47 by WBC

&quot;Gary Collard&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gmcollard&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">gmcollard&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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| Larry Coon wrote:
| &gt;
| &gt; drg wrote:
| &gt;
| &gt; &gt; Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah.
| &gt;
| &gt; Especially a freshwater fish.
|
| Unless somebody steps up, Line of the Week.

I love DF but am calling this one a toss-up:

&quot;Perhaps he's worried that there are screens on the Delta Center's doors.&quot;
--Fred
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#11: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-19 20:08:56 by drg

John wrote:
&gt; &quot;drg&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:drg_75&#64;pacbell.net" target="_blank">drg_75&#64;pacbell.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:1153254139.683373.131370&#64;i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..." target="_blank">1153254139.683373.131370&#64;i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I think Fred is referring to the fact that Fish was never very good at
&gt; &gt; handling screens or picks when he was trying to guard the opposing
&gt; &gt; point guard.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah.
&gt;
&gt; Why? They are on the rise with a nucleus of good young talent that barely
&gt; missed the playoffs and Sloan has already said he is excited about getting
&gt; Fischer.
&gt;

That wasn't meant as a dig against the team, but rather the state. I've
never been to Utah but from my limited knowledge it doesn't seem like
the most exciting place to live.

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#12: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-20 00:16:57 by Larry Coon

WBC wrote:

&gt; I love DF but am calling this one a toss-up:
&gt;
&gt; &quot;Perhaps he's worried that there are screens on the Delta Center's doors.&quot;
&gt; --Fred

Old line. Used it myself once or twice.


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#13: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-20 01:22:29 by John

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&gt;
&gt; John wrote:
&gt; &gt; &quot;drg&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:drg_75&#64;pacbell.net" target="_blank">drg_75&#64;pacbell.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; &gt; news:<a href="mailto:1153254139.683373.131370&#64;i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..." target="_blank">1153254139.683373.131370&#64;i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...</a>
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; I think Fred is referring to the fact that Fish was never very good at
&gt; &gt; &gt; handling screens or picks when he was trying to guard the opposing
&gt; &gt; &gt; point guard.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Can't really blame Fish for not wanting to go to Utah.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Why? They are on the rise with a nucleus of good young talent that
barely
&gt; &gt; missed the playoffs and Sloan has already said he is excited about
getting
&gt; &gt; Fischer.
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; That wasn't meant as a dig against the team, but rather the state. I've
&gt; never been to Utah but from my limited knowledge it doesn't seem like
&gt; the most exciting place to live.

That sounds bright. You might want to go visit someplace before you
comment.

&gt;

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#14: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-20 06:19:52 by Raptor

drg wrote:
&gt; That wasn't meant as a dig against the team, but rather the state. I've
&gt; never been to Utah but from my limited knowledge it doesn't seem like
&gt; the most exciting place to live.

Mountains within walking distance from your front door, desert a
half-day's drive farther, appeals to many people. Salt Lake is actually
fairly liberal, but Utah IS a &quot;good clean fun&quot; kind of place. Party
animals need to go elsewhere.

&quot;Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time.&quot; Stephen Wright

But seriously, living downtown, I can get myself to 10,000 feet in a day
by walking, if I really wanted to.

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the most insidious of traitors.&quot;
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#15: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-20 06:40:07 by Ron

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:1153332536.117742.221000&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1153332536.117742.221000&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com</a>&gt;,
&quot;drg&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:drg_75&#64;pacbell.net" target="_blank">drg_75&#64;pacbell.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; I've
&gt; never been to Utah but from my limited knowledge it doesn't seem like
&gt; the most exciting place to live.

The thing about SLC is that the conservatives are very conservative, but
there's a pretty big scene of people who go wild rejecting the mormon
authoritarian streak. It can be a great party town (although it's pretty
darn white, which makes some blacks uncomfortable).

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#16: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-20 10:36:37 by Skinky

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:yradnT5BEOUlIyPZnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d&#64;comcast.com" target="_blank">yradnT5BEOUlIyPZnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d&#64;comcast.com</a>&gt;,
&quot;John&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:John&#64;earthlink.com" target="_blank">John&#64;earthlink.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; &gt; That wasn't meant as a dig against the team, but rather the state. I've
&gt; &gt; never been to Utah but from my limited knowledge it doesn't seem like
&gt; &gt; the most exciting place to live.
&gt;
&gt; That sounds bright. You might want to go visit someplace before you
&gt; comment.


Oh Jesus, you sissy, get a grip. You think it's fun to hear people make
&quot;rat-a-tat&quot; noises and scream &quot;AHL CAPOWN! AHL CAPOWN!&quot; everytime they
find out I'm from Chicago? Well, no, it's not unless they have a funny
accent like rednecks from Jim Crow, Alabama or are cowardly prigs like
the French.

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#17: Re: The anti-guard refuses to report to Utah

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:26:42 by Frank Rizzo

Granville Waiters' Ghost wrote:
&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:yradnT5BEOUlIyPZnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d&#64;comcast.com" target="_blank">yradnT5BEOUlIyPZnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d&#64;comcast.com</a>&gt;,
&gt; &quot;John&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:John&#64;earthlink.com" target="_blank">John&#64;earthlink.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; That wasn't meant as a dig against the team, but rather the state. I've
&gt; &gt; &gt; never been to Utah but from my limited knowledge it doesn't seem like
&gt; &gt; &gt; the most exciting place to live.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; That sounds bright. You might want to go visit someplace before you
&gt; &gt; comment.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Oh Jesus, you sissy, get a grip. You think it's fun to hear people make
&gt; &quot;rat-a-tat&quot; noises and scream &quot;AHL CAPOWN! AHL CAPOWN!&quot; everytime they
&gt; find out I'm from Chicago? Well, no, it's not unless they have a funny
&gt; accent like rednecks from Jim Crow, Alabama or are cowardly prigs like
&gt; the French.

Ghost,

ROTFLMFAO...Ahl Capown??? Never heard that one before, ever. I voted
for Ditka in the 1988 primary for President. As far as Utah, you
ruined my vision of it when you pointed out that there is a large gay
contingent that is widely accepted. Are there no more &quot;middle america&quot;
towns left???

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