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#1: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 05:32:18 by peteruy7

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Round 6
Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will. Mosley
and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with his left
jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick, staring and
firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley puts Vargas flat
on his back with a devastating left in the final minute of the round.
Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it. The fight is stopped.


Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.

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#2: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 05:46:33 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.

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&gt;
&gt; Round 6
&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
&gt; fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will. Mosley
&gt; and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with his left
&gt; jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick, staring and
&gt; firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley puts Vargas flat
&gt; on his back with a devastating left in the final minute of the round.
&gt; Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it. The fight is stopped.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;
&gt;

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#3: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 05:54:44 by vir_desertor_adiantado_fim

TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;

I LOVE Shane but let's be honest here, tongiht was mostly about what
vargas doesn't have left rather than Mosley turning back the clock and
I hope this doesn't fool Shane into thinking suddenly it's the year
2000 again.

Mosley's balance just isn't what it used to be and against a
counter-puncher with a good left cross Mosley would have found himself
in trouble because he keeps freezing after throing a round house right.

Does anybody actually think Mosley hits as hard as Campas or Quartey or
Tito? Vargas' recuperative powers are simply like his reflexes no what
they once were, he looked exactly like he did Vs DLH only worse in
every department. This Varags and the one Vs DLH is NOT the one that
fought Quartey, Wright, Campas, Thompson, Marquez, etc.

I'm happy for Shane but this was not a fight, this was a humiliation of
a shot figther, I would have gonne over hugged the guy and begged him
to retire because i would have felt terrible had I humiliated him like
Mosley did tonight.

I know in my heart that if I was in there with Vargas tonight there is
no way he would have made it to the 7th round, the guy was WIDE open
for a left uppercut time after time and he doesn't have any waist or
head movement (he disp the knees though), once you bomb on him he is
kind enough to stand perfectly still and try to abdorb.



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#4: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 05:59:32 by deadandrestless

&gt; Mosley's balance just isn't what it used to be and against a
&gt; counter-puncher with a good left cross Mosley would have found himself
&gt; in trouble because he keeps freezing after throing a round house right.
&gt;
&gt; Does anybody actually think Mosley hits as hard as Campas or Quartey or
&gt; Tito? Vargas' recuperative powers are simply like his reflexes no what
&gt; they once were, he looked exactly like he did Vs DLH only worse in
&gt; every department. This Varags and the one Vs DLH is NOT the one that
&gt; fought Quartey, Wright, Campas, Thompson, Marquez, etc.
&gt;
&gt; I'm happy for Shane but this was not a fight, this was a humiliation of
&gt; a shot figther, I would have gonne over hugged the guy and begged him
&gt; to retire because i would have felt terrible had I humiliated him like
&gt; Mosley did tonight.
&gt;
&gt; I know in my heart that if I was in there with Vargas tonight there is
&gt; no way he would have made it to the 7th round, the guy was WIDE open
&gt; for a left uppercut time after time and he doesn't have any waist or
&gt; head movement (he disp the knees though), once you bomb on him he is
&gt; kind enough to stand perfectly still and try to abdorb.
&gt;

I was happy because I picked Mosley by stoppage, that's about it.
Vargas looked absolutely horrible from the opening bell here. I mean,
Mayorga put up more of a fight against De La Hoya than Vargas did in
this bout, and I'd pick Ike Quartey at this point to KO this version of
Fernando Vargas.

Mosley/Mayweather is interesting because...well, you know, now that I
think about it, Mayweather would win with ease. Mosley's too far gone
in years and his speed is simply not there to compete with Mayweather.
Mayweather isn't that much smaller either. He may even be taller.
Mosley would be interesting against, I dunno, Cotto. Or Carlos
Quintana. Kermit Cintron, too.

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#5: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:15:36 by STRATEGY

TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.


top 25 P4P *maybe* (and that's a big maybe)

Shane should fight Viper if Viver gets by Quartey, if not, maybe he
could fight Quartey?

or....

Should he have no part of Forrest as Forrest has his number period?

I could see Shane getting mauled by someone like Judah, so I hope he
doesn't bite off too much..

STRATEGY



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&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Round 6
&gt; &gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
&gt; &gt; fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will. Mosley
&gt; &gt; and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with his left
&gt; &gt; jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick, staring and
&gt; &gt; firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley puts Vargas flat
&gt; &gt; on his back with a devastating left in the final minute of the round.
&gt; &gt; Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it. The fight is stopped.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;

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#6: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:16:59 by Violento

<a href="mailto:deadandrestless&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">deadandrestless&#64;gmail.com</a> wrote:
&gt; &gt; Mosley's balance just isn't what it used to be and against a
&gt; &gt; counter-puncher with a good left cross Mosley would have found himself
&gt; &gt; in trouble because he keeps freezing after throing a round house right.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Does anybody actually think Mosley hits as hard as Campas or Quartey or
&gt; &gt; Tito? Vargas' recuperative powers are simply like his reflexes no what
&gt; &gt; they once were, he looked exactly like he did Vs DLH only worse in
&gt; &gt; every department. This Varags and the one Vs DLH is NOT the one that
&gt; &gt; fought Quartey, Wright, Campas, Thompson, Marquez, etc.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I'm happy for Shane but this was not a fight, this was a humiliation of
&gt; &gt; a shot figther, I would have gonne over hugged the guy and begged him
&gt; &gt; to retire because i would have felt terrible had I humiliated him like
&gt; &gt; Mosley did tonight.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I know in my heart that if I was in there with Vargas tonight there is
&gt; &gt; no way he would have made it to the 7th round, the guy was WIDE open
&gt; &gt; for a left uppercut time after time and he doesn't have any waist or
&gt; &gt; head movement (he disp the knees though), once you bomb on him he is
&gt; &gt; kind enough to stand perfectly still and try to abdorb.
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; I was happy because I picked Mosley by stoppage, that's about it.
&gt; Vargas looked absolutely horrible from the opening bell here. I mean,
&gt; Mayorga put up more of a fight against De La Hoya than Vargas did in
&gt; this bout, and I'd pick Ike Quartey at this point to KO this version of
&gt; Fernando Vargas.

This is obviously not the same Vargas that gave Tito and DLH their
toughtest fights.
But I really don't think that a prime Vargas beats Tito, DLH or Mosley
anyway. He was good, really good but not in the same league as those
three.

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#7: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:18:26 by Violento

&gt;
&gt; I could see Shane getting mauled by someone like Judah, so I hope he
&gt; doesn't bite off too much..
&gt;

This is a joke, right?

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#8: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:23:42 by STRATEGY

Butt It Like Zidane wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I could see Shane getting mauled by someone like Judah, so I hope he
&gt; &gt; doesn't bite off too much..
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; This is a joke, right?


Based on Shane's relatively low activity rate in recent fights, no
(although it sounds like he was more active in this fight than recent
ones, I didn't see it)

To put it another way:

Shane would've got his ass kicked by Mayweather a lot worse than Judah
did.

Floyd pitches a shutout against Mosely and probably knocks him out.



STRATEGY

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#9: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:30:48 by deadandrestless

&gt; Shane should fight Viper if Viver gets by Quartey, if not, maybe he
&gt; could fight Quartey?
&gt;
&gt; or....
&gt;
&gt; Should he have no part of Forrest as Forrest has his number period?

Well, the problem is that Vernon ain't getting by Quartey. Did you see
the last fight with Vernon Forrest when he fought Elco Garcia? Awful
showing. Garcia almost had the fight even in the 12th, but a series of
mistakes by the ref lead to Garcia turning for a neutral corner and
Forrest running up from behind and KOing him through the ropes.Quartey,
on the other hand, has fought legitimate opponents (Verno Phillips,
Carlos Bojorquez) and looked very competent and skillful. He laid a
horrible beating on Bojorquez, and while Phillps gave him some tough
issues, Verno Phillips is a very very good fighter who's had a great
run the last 5 years and dealt out two tough bouts to Kassim Ouma.

&gt; I could see Shane getting mauled by someone like Judah, so I hope he
&gt; doesn't bite off too much..

Judah would relax and stop fighting and that would be his downfall with
Judah. It happens with everyone else, after all. Mayweather is talented
enough and has the size to really beat up on Mosley pretty throughly.

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#10: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 08:24:40 by Charles Beauchamp

STRATEGY wrote:
&gt; TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; top 25 P4P *maybe* (and that's a big maybe)
&gt;
&gt; Shane should fight Viper if Viver gets by Quartey, if not, maybe he
&gt; could fight Quartey?
&gt;
&gt; or....
&gt;
&gt; Should he have no part of Forrest as Forrest has his number period?
&gt;
&gt; I could see Shane getting mauled by someone like Judah, so I hope he
&gt; doesn't bite off too much..
&gt;
&gt; STRATEGY
&gt;
&gt;

I have a tough time seeing Judah &quot;mauling&quot; any top 10 fighter above 140lbs.
Besides that Shane carries 154 very well and Judah isn't even there yet.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
&gt;&gt;&gt; fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.

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#11: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 08:27:07 by Charles Beauchamp

Butt It Like Zidane wrote:
&gt; <a href="mailto:deadandrestless&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">deadandrestless&#64;gmail.com</a> wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley's balance just isn't what it used to be and against a
&gt;&gt;&gt; counter-puncher with a good left cross Mosley would have found
&gt;&gt;&gt; himself in trouble because he keeps freezing after throing a round
&gt;&gt;&gt; house right.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Does anybody actually think Mosley hits as hard as Campas or
&gt;&gt;&gt; Quartey or Tito? Vargas' recuperative powers are simply like his
&gt;&gt;&gt; reflexes no what they once were, he looked exactly like he did Vs
&gt;&gt;&gt; DLH only worse in every department. This Varags and the one Vs DLH
&gt;&gt;&gt; is NOT the one that fought Quartey, Wright, Campas, Thompson,
&gt;&gt;&gt; Marquez, etc.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm happy for Shane but this was not a fight, this was a
&gt;&gt;&gt; humiliation of a shot figther, I would have gonne over hugged the
&gt;&gt;&gt; guy and begged him to retire because i would have felt terrible had
&gt;&gt;&gt; I humiliated him like Mosley did tonight.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I know in my heart that if I was in there with Vargas tonight there
&gt;&gt;&gt; is no way he would have made it to the 7th round, the guy was WIDE
&gt;&gt;&gt; open for a left uppercut time after time and he doesn't have any
&gt;&gt;&gt; waist or head movement (he disp the knees though), once you bomb on
&gt;&gt;&gt; him he is kind enough to stand perfectly still and try to abdorb.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I was happy because I picked Mosley by stoppage, that's about it.
&gt;&gt; Vargas looked absolutely horrible from the opening bell here. I mean,
&gt;&gt; Mayorga put up more of a fight against De La Hoya than Vargas did in
&gt;&gt; this bout, and I'd pick Ike Quartey at this point to KO this version
&gt;&gt; of Fernando Vargas.
&gt;
&gt; This is obviously not the same Vargas that gave Tito and DLH their
&gt; toughtest fights.

OK you gotta buy me a new keyboard because I spewed Pepsi over this comment.
Vargas did not give Tito his &quot;toughest fight&quot; not by a long shot. That
fight was fairly one sided. Same with Vargas and DLH.

&gt; But I really don't think that a prime Vargas beats Tito, DLH or Mosley
&gt; anyway. He was good, really good but not in the same league as those
&gt; three.

This is true. Vargas was a very good fighter who happened along while some
greats were taking turns with each other.
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#12: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 17:03:37 by The Sanity Cruzer

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&gt; OK you gotta buy me a new keyboard because I spewed Pepsi over this
&gt; comment. Vargas did not give Tito his &quot;toughest fight&quot; not by a long shot.
&gt; That fight was fairly one sided. Same with Vargas and DLH.

Vargas-DLH was far from one-sided. The ending left no question as to who
the winner was, but up until about the 8th round, it was very, very close,
with Vargas possilby ahead on the cards.

Vargas-Trinidad also was not one-sided from the beginning.

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#13: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 18:20:08 by Paul Cassel

Butt It Like Zidane wrote:

&gt;
&gt; This is obviously not the same Vargas that gave Tito and DLH their
&gt; toughtest fights.

If you ask Tito, I think he'd rate his fight against Hopkins as tougher
than his fight against Vargas.

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#14: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 18:49:36 by pablo

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&gt;
&gt; Vargas-Trinidad also was not one-sided from the beginning.

I can recall a very one-sided beginning, with Vargas damn near out early
after a huge knockdown. But he did come back, and at times looked
threatenting, but then things go pretty one-sided towards the end. That was
a damaging fight for Vargas, perhaps getting up from that bad
knockdown -like Mosley did against Forrest- was not a good career move.

Vargas has been finished at the top for a while. Nothing he had shown in
several years justified the perception people had of him as a still viable
top fighter.

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#15: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 19:06:01 by Mitticus

&quot;TIMOTHY DONATELLI&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:steved2005&#64;comcast.net" target="_blank">steved2005&#64;comcast.net</a>&gt; writes:

&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;

In one of your lists : possibly. You'll probably have him as the best
P4P bantamweight ever. Any others? Not a chance. Great fighter but
certainly not &quot;legendary&quot;.


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&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
&gt;&gt; fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will. Mosley
&gt;&gt; and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with his left
&gt;&gt; jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick, staring and
&gt;&gt; firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley puts Vargas flat
&gt;&gt; on his back with a devastating left in the final minute of the round.
&gt;&gt; Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it. The fight is stopped.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#16: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 19:32:18 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

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&gt;
&gt;&gt; OK you gotta buy me a new keyboard because I spewed Pepsi over this
&gt;&gt; comment. Vargas did not give Tito his &quot;toughest fight&quot; not by a long
&gt;&gt; shot. That fight was fairly one sided. Same with Vargas and DLH.
&gt;
&gt; Vargas-DLH was far from one-sided. The ending left no question as to who
&gt; the winner was, but up until about the 8th round, it was very, very close,
&gt; with Vargas possilby ahead on the cards.
&gt;
&gt; Vargas-Trinidad also was not one-sided from the beginning.
&gt;

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#17: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 19:34:53 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

Mosley beat a shot Vargas? Please. Give Mosley his due credit.

I'm a huge Mayweather Jr. fan, but for those of you that think Mosley will
get dominated, think again!

Mosley beat Oscar (twice). Even though he lost to Winky Wright twice, you
think Mayweather (a natural Jr. Welterweight), could beat Wright? I don't
think so.

Fact is, if Mosley would go back down to welterweight, guys like Hatton and
Cotto would probably lose to &quot;Sugar&quot; Shane.

Mosley was impressive last night, period!

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&gt;
&gt;&gt; OK you gotta buy me a new keyboard because I spewed Pepsi over this
&gt;&gt; comment. Vargas did not give Tito his &quot;toughest fight&quot; not by a long
&gt;&gt; shot. That fight was fairly one sided. Same with Vargas and DLH.
&gt;
&gt; Vargas-DLH was far from one-sided. The ending left no question as to who
&gt; the winner was, but up until about the 8th round, it was very, very close,
&gt; with Vargas possilby ahead on the cards.
&gt;
&gt; Vargas-Trinidad also was not one-sided from the beginning.
&gt;

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#18: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 19:37:44 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

&gt; In one of your lists : possibly. You'll probably have him as the best
&gt; P4P bantamweight ever. Any others? Not a chance. Great fighter but
&gt; certainly not &quot;legendary&quot;.

When it's all said and done, Mosley will be a legend. He was a COMPLETE
lightweight and holds two quality wins over Oscar De La Hoya.

Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport. He fought
Winky Wright tough twice. You think Hatton or Tszyu could do that? Not a
chance.

If he fights Floyd Mayweather Jr., people will be shocked how close a fight
it will be.

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&gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; SCar TKO
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&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
&gt;&gt;&gt; fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will. Mosley
&gt;&gt;&gt; and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with his left
&gt;&gt;&gt; jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick, staring and
&gt;&gt;&gt; firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley puts Vargas flat
&gt;&gt;&gt; on his back with a devastating left in the final minute of the round.
&gt;&gt;&gt; Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it. The fight is stopped.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
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Posted on 2006-07-16 19:52:58 by Charles Beauchamp

Paul Cassel wrote:
&gt; Butt It Like Zidane wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; This is obviously not the same Vargas that gave Tito and DLH their
&gt;&gt; toughtest fights.
&gt;
&gt; If you ask Tito, I think he'd rate his fight against Hopkins as
&gt; tougher than his fight against Vargas.

Not to mention the Wright fight and his fight with Oscar. Vargas was a
target easily dispatched by Trinidad. That fight wasn't particularly close.
Tito blew him out of there and was absolutely dominant never losing control
of the fight. If anything he exposed Vargas as an overrated bitch. One of
the bizarre things to me has been the adoration of the Mexican fight fans
for Vargas who isn't even a real Mexican anyhow. He is from flipping Oxnard
for hecksakes. Why do the illegals of East LA act like this poser is Carlos
damn Zarate or something?
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#20: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 19:57:03 by Charles Beauchamp

TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt;&gt; In one of your lists : possibly. You'll probably have him as the best
&gt;&gt; P4P bantamweight ever. Any others? Not a chance. Great fighter but
&gt;&gt; certainly not &quot;legendary&quot;.
&gt;
&gt; When it's all said and done, Mosley will be a legend.

Wow...dude you are turning into a cartoon character. Mosley will at best be
remembered as a very very very good fighter who was not quite great. Only
the most hard core boxing fans ever even noticed him at 135. Hard to be
legendary fighting only on undercards on HBO. His greatest moment by far
was his first win over DeLaHoya which is solid. Mosley will be remembered
as exactly what he was. A world class fighter who was capable of beating
anyone from 135-154 at his best but never quite good enough to be the
biggest star. He could fight with the best. Just didn't always win against
the best. Also losing twice to Forrest tarnishes any &quot;legend&quot; status.
Especially seeing as how those losses came during his presumptive prime and
Forrest in the end has been found to not measure up to the greats.

He was a
&gt; COMPLETE lightweight and holds two quality wins over Oscar De La Hoya.
&gt;
&gt; Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport. He
&gt; fought Winky Wright tough twice. You think Hatton or Tszyu could do
&gt; that? Not a chance.
&gt;

Kostya and Ricky aren't legends either except in the minds of their over
zealous fans.

&gt; If he fights Floyd Mayweather Jr., people will be shocked how close a
&gt; fight it will be.
&gt;

If he fights Mayweather Jr at 154 Mosley probably overpowers Floyd who is
too small to hang at that weight.

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&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped. Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; --

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#21: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 20:31:53 by Paul Cassel

Charles Beauchamp wrote:
&gt; He is from flipping Oxnard
&gt; for hecksakes. Why do the illegals of East LA act like this poser is Carlos
&gt; damn Zarate or something?

I suspect he does a great act which fools them. I worked for a State
Senator who was dark and who affected a Spanish lilt to his speech. Most
voters here in NM thought he was Hispanic so he won that block (a huge
percentage of Hispanic voters) going away .

His dad was from Lebanon and his mom Irish.

-paul

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#22: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 20:33:10 by Paul Cassel

<a href="mailto:deadandrestless&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">deadandrestless&#64;gmail.com</a> wrote:

&gt;
&gt; Judah would relax and stop fighting and that would be his downfall with
&gt; Judah.

Shadow boxing, no doubt.

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#23: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 20:44:14 by Violento

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&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Vargas-Trinidad also was not one-sided from the beginning.
&gt;
&gt; I can recall a very one-sided beginning, with Vargas damn near out early
&gt; after a huge knockdown. But he did come back, and at times looked
&gt; threatenting, but then things go pretty one-sided towards the end.

Maybe he was already damaged goods before coming in to this fight. lol
: )
To be fair, Vargas took control of the middle rounds until Tito punched
him in the balls.

&gt;That was
&gt; a damaging fight for Vargas, perhaps getting up from that bad
&gt; knockdown -like Mosley did against Forrest- was not a good career move.

Why is everyone so surprised that he lost to DLH and later to Mosley?
DLH proved to be every bit as good as Tito if not more, so it was no
surprise that he beat Vargas too in another tough fight. And didn't
Mosley beat DLH twice in two close fights? Mosley has more hanspeed
than Tito and is slightly faster than Oscar, so why is everyone
surprised that he beat Vargas twice?

I don't believe this &quot;damanged goods&quot; thing.
The problem with Vargas is that he uses his face as his defense, and
still does so. I'll admit that the Vargas that showed tonight is a
shell of his former self, but like I said before, even in his best days
he still loses to DLH, Mosley and Trinidad.

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#24: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 21:20:05 by Charles Beauchamp

Paul Cassel wrote:
&gt; Charles Beauchamp wrote:
&gt;&gt; He is from flipping Oxnard
&gt;&gt; for hecksakes. Why do the illegals of East LA act like this poser
&gt;&gt; is Carlos damn Zarate or something?
&gt;
&gt; I suspect he does a great act which fools them. I worked for a State
&gt; Senator who was dark and who affected a Spanish lilt to his speech.
&gt; Most voters here in NM thought he was Hispanic so he won that block
&gt; (a huge percentage of Hispanic voters) going away .
&gt;
&gt; His dad was from Lebanon and his mom Irish.
&gt;
&gt; -paul

I get the opposite effect. Been Puerto Rican all my life but I have lived
up here since I was a kid and don't speak Spanish very well. I don't bother
much with ethnical convenience. That is kinda funny though.

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#25: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 21:51:51 by STRATEGY

Charles Beauchamp wrote:
&gt; STRATEGY wrote:
&gt; &gt; TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; top 25 P4P *maybe* (and that's a big maybe)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Shane should fight Viper if Viver gets by Quartey, if not, maybe he
&gt; &gt; could fight Quartey?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; or....
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Should he have no part of Forrest as Forrest has his number period?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I could see Shane getting mauled by someone like Judah, so I hope he
&gt; &gt; doesn't bite off too much..
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; STRATEGY
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; I have a tough time seeing Judah &quot;mauling&quot; any top 10 fighter above 140lbs.


When did Mosely become a top 10 fighter again?

Surely not last night..


STRATEGY



&gt; Besides that Shane carries 154 very well and Judah isn't even there yet.
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
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&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;
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Posted on 2006-07-16 21:53:55 by pablo

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&gt; ... I'll admit that the Vargas that showed tonight is a
&gt; shell of his former self, but like I said before, even in his best days
&gt; he still loses to DLH, Mosley and Trinidad.

And I'd totaly agree. But he'd make it more of a fight, and would not look
as timid, tentative and downright like a sitting duck. Which is what he's
become.

....pablo

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Posted on 2006-07-16 22:06:31 by deadandrestless

&gt; &gt; Judah would relax and stop fighting and that would be his downfall with
&gt; &gt; Judah.
&gt;
&gt; Shadow boxing, no doubt.

Nah, his brother Daniel. ;)

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#28: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 22:13:53 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

&gt; Wow...dude you are turning into a cartoon character.

That's real classy. I'm entitled to my opinion. Go keep smoking your crack
&lt;grin&gt;

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&gt; TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; In one of your lists : possibly. You'll probably have him as the best
&gt;&gt;&gt; P4P bantamweight ever. Any others? Not a chance. Great fighter but
&gt;&gt;&gt; certainly not &quot;legendary&quot;.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; When it's all said and done, Mosley will be a legend.
&gt;
Mosley will at best be
&gt; remembered as a very very very good fighter who was not quite great. Only
&gt; the most hard core boxing fans ever even noticed him at 135. Hard to be
&gt; legendary fighting only on undercards on HBO. His greatest moment by far
&gt; was his first win over DeLaHoya which is solid. Mosley will be remembered
&gt; as exactly what he was. A world class fighter who was capable of beating
&gt; anyone from 135-154 at his best but never quite good enough to be the
&gt; biggest star. He could fight with the best. Just didn't always win
&gt; against the best. Also losing twice to Forrest tarnishes any &quot;legend&quot;
&gt; status. Especially seeing as how those losses came during his presumptive
&gt; prime and Forrest in the end has been found to not measure up to the
&gt; greats.
&gt;
&gt; He was a
&gt;&gt; COMPLETE lightweight and holds two quality wins over Oscar De La Hoya.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport. He
&gt;&gt; fought Winky Wright tough twice. You think Hatton or Tszyu could do
&gt;&gt; that? Not a chance.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Kostya and Ricky aren't legends either except in the minds of their over
&gt; zealous fans.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; If he fights Floyd Mayweather Jr., people will be shocked how close a
&gt;&gt; fight it will be.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; If he fights Mayweather Jr at 154 Mosley probably overpowers Floyd who is
&gt; too small to hang at that weight.
&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; SCar TKO
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped. Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; --
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&gt;
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&gt; that you can love your country but despise your government.&quot; -
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Posted on 2006-07-16 22:14:15 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

Mosley will at best be
&gt; remembered as a very very very good fighter who was not quite great.

Tell that to Oscar De La Hoya.

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&gt; TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; In one of your lists : possibly. You'll probably have him as the best
&gt;&gt;&gt; P4P bantamweight ever. Any others? Not a chance. Great fighter but
&gt;&gt;&gt; certainly not &quot;legendary&quot;.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; When it's all said and done, Mosley will be a legend.
&gt;
&gt; Wow...dude you are turning into a cartoon character. Only the most hard
&gt; core boxing fans ever even noticed him at 135. Hard to be legendary
&gt; fighting only on undercards on HBO. His greatest moment by far was his
&gt; first win over DeLaHoya which is solid. Mosley will be remembered as
&gt; exactly what he was. A world class fighter who was capable of beating
&gt; anyone from 135-154 at his best but never quite good enough to be the
&gt; biggest star. He could fight with the best. Just didn't always win
&gt; against the best. Also losing twice to Forrest tarnishes any &quot;legend&quot;
&gt; status. Especially seeing as how those losses came during his presumptive
&gt; prime and Forrest in the end has been found to not measure up to the
&gt; greats.
&gt;
&gt; He was a
&gt;&gt; COMPLETE lightweight and holds two quality wins over Oscar De La Hoya.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport. He
&gt;&gt; fought Winky Wright tough twice. You think Hatton or Tszyu could do
&gt;&gt; that? Not a chance.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Kostya and Ricky aren't legends either except in the minds of their over
&gt; zealous fans.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; If he fights Floyd Mayweather Jr., people will be shocked how close a
&gt;&gt; fight it will be.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; If he fights Mayweather Jr at 154 Mosley probably overpowers Floyd who is
&gt; too small to hang at that weight.
&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped. Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;
&gt; --
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&gt;
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&gt;
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#30: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 22:16:21 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

Also losing twice to Forrest tarnishes any &quot;legend&quot; status.

What? Legends don't lose? Is that what your saying?

Mosley EARNED respect by moving up and battling p4p great Winky Wright.

Trinidaed ir Oscar didn't have the power Mosley did to stop Vargas EARLIER
than both of them did.

Wright easily outboxed Trinidad, but couldn't do the same against Mosley.
Mnay consider Trinidad and Oscar to be legends, so why not Mosley? &lt;grin&gt;

Get a life dude.

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&gt; TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; In one of your lists : possibly. You'll probably have him as the best
&gt;&gt;&gt; P4P bantamweight ever. Any others? Not a chance. Great fighter but
&gt;&gt;&gt; certainly not &quot;legendary&quot;.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; When it's all said and done, Mosley will be a legend.
&gt;
&gt; Wow...dude you are turning into a cartoon character. Mosley will at best
&gt; be remembered as a very very very good fighter who was not quite great.
&gt; Only the most hard core boxing fans ever even noticed him at 135. Hard to
&gt; be legendary fighting only on undercards on HBO. His greatest moment by
&gt; far was his first win over DeLaHoya which is solid. Mosley will be
&gt; remembered as exactly what he was. A world class fighter who was capable
&gt; of beating anyone from 135-154 at his best but never quite good enough to
&gt; be the biggest star. He could fight with the best. Just didn't always
&gt; win against the best. &gt; Especially seeing as how those losses came during
&gt; his presumptive prime and Forrest in the end has been found to not measure
&gt; up to the greats.
&gt;
&gt; He was a
&gt;&gt; COMPLETE lightweight and holds two quality wins over Oscar De La Hoya.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport. He
&gt;&gt; fought Winky Wright tough twice. You think Hatton or Tszyu could do
&gt;&gt; that? Not a chance.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Kostya and Ricky aren't legends either except in the minds of their over
&gt; zealous fans.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; If he fights Floyd Mayweather Jr., people will be shocked how close a
&gt;&gt; fight it will be.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; If he fights Mayweather Jr at 154 Mosley probably overpowers Floyd who is
&gt; too small to hang at that weight.
&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; SCar TKO
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped. Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;
&gt; --
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&gt;
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&gt; chance to have their fair say.&quot; - President Clinton 28 May 1993
&gt;
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&gt; that you can love your country but despise your government.&quot; -
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#31: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-16 22:18:46 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

&gt; When did Mosely become a top 10 fighter again?
&gt;
&gt; Surely not last night..
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; STRATEGY

Shane Mosley is without question a top 15 p4p fighter today. He stopped
Vargas earlier than anybody else. After watching Winky Wright totally
humiliate Felix Trinidad, and Winky couldn't do that against Mosley, now
could he? &lt;grin&gt;

Mosley will beat = Hatton, Collazo, Tszyu, or Judah with little trouble.

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&gt;
&gt; Charles Beauchamp wrote:
&gt;&gt; STRATEGY wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; top 25 P4P *maybe* (and that's a big maybe)
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Shane should fight Viper if Viver gets by Quartey, if not, maybe he
&gt;&gt; &gt; could fight Quartey?
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; or....
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Should he have no part of Forrest as Forrest has his number period?
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; I could see Shane getting mauled by someone like Judah, so I hope he
&gt;&gt; &gt; doesn't bite off too much..
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; STRATEGY
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have a tough time seeing Judah &quot;mauling&quot; any top 10 fighter above
&gt;&gt; 140lbs.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Besides that Shane carries 154 very well and Judah isn't even there yet.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking to
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; --
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&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt; that you can love your country but despise your government.&quot; -
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#32: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-17 01:41:49 by Melanie Ley

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:34:53 -0400, &quot;TIMOTHY DONATELLI&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:steved2005&#64;comcast.net" target="_blank">steved2005&#64;comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Mosley beat a shot Vargas? Please. Give Mosley his due credit.

Actually, he did. However he did it in good style, showing
the speed and power that's been missing for a while.

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#33: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-17 01:44:01 by Melanie Ley

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:37:44 -0400, &quot;TIMOTHY DONATELLI&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:steved2005&#64;comcast.net" target="_blank">steved2005&#64;comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport. He fought
&gt;Winky Wright tough twice.

My impression of the first fight was that Shane wasn't in it,
physically or emotionally. He didn't do much, let alone give Wright a
tough fight.

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#34: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-17 03:55:09 by Devilboy6692

Now that Vargas has no more brain left to batter--RETIRE!!

J.S

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#35: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-17 04:17:50 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

&gt; Actually, he did. However he did it in good style, showing
&gt; the speed and power that's been missing for a while.
&gt;
&gt; Mel


Vargas wasn't that shot. If he was that shot, why did Graham and other
experts actually pick Vargas to win?

Mosley is an excellent boxer, and if he stayed at welterweight he would be
pretty much unstoppable. He beats Hatton and gives Mayweather a run for his
money!

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&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:steved2005&#64;comcast.net" target="_blank">steved2005&#64;comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Mosley beat a shot Vargas? Please. Give Mosley his due credit.
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#36: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-17 04:18:36 by TIMOTHY DONATELLI

&gt; My impression of the first fight was that Shane wasn't in it,
&gt; physically or emotionally. He didn't do much, let alone give Wright a
&gt; tough fight.
&gt;
&gt; Mel

Then you should watch the second Mosley-Wright fight. It was close, Mosley
at least won 4-5 rounds.

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&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:steved2005&#64;comcast.net" target="_blank">steved2005&#64;comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport. He
&gt;&gt;fought
&gt;&gt;Winky Wright tough twice.
&gt;
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#37: Re: Mosley wins on 6th round TKO over Vargas!

Posted on 2006-07-17 08:34:24 by Charles Beauchamp

TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt; Also losing twice to Forrest tarnishes any &quot;legend&quot; status.
&gt;
&gt; What? Legends don't lose? Is that what your saying?
&gt;
&gt; Mosley EARNED respect by moving up and battling p4p great Winky
&gt; Wright.
&gt; Trinidaed ir Oscar didn't have the power Mosley did to stop Vargas
&gt; EARLIER than both of them did.
&gt;
&gt; Wright easily outboxed Trinidad, but couldn't do the same against
&gt; Mosley. Mnay consider Trinidad and Oscar to be legends, so why not
&gt; Mosley? &lt;grin&gt;

Trinidad is generally thought to be either the #1 or #2 fighter ever
produced by Puerto Rico and beat Oscar when Oscar was the #1 fighter in the
sport. Mosely just beat Oscar later then Tito did. Mosely beat a shot
Vargas after ODL and Tito beat him.

To be a legend you have to do legendary things. Trinidad beating Oscar did
that for him. Oscar's multiple title wins sealed him years ago. Mosely is
very very good...just doesn't have the accomplishments of these two
contemporaries. Sure he beat Oscar but Oscar wasn't ever going to lose to
Forrest. And Wright..well he beat Tito and Mosely. The real question is
will Wright get those kinds of accolades.

Mosely isn't a legend to anyone but some strange fans.

&gt; Get a life dude.
&gt;

This from a guy that keeps starting of threads with irrational messages.

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&gt;&gt; TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In one of your lists : possibly. You'll probably have him as the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; best P4P bantamweight ever. Any others? Not a chance. Great
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fighter but certainly not &quot;legendary&quot;.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; When it's all said and done, Mosley will be a legend.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Wow...dude you are turning into a cartoon character. Mosley will at
&gt;&gt; best be remembered as a very very very good fighter who was not
&gt;&gt; quite great. Only the most hard core boxing fans ever even noticed
&gt;&gt; him at 135. Hard to be legendary fighting only on undercards on
&gt;&gt; HBO. His greatest moment by far was his first win over DeLaHoya
&gt;&gt; which is solid. Mosley will be remembered as exactly what he was. A
&gt;&gt; world class fighter who was capable of beating anyone from 135-154
&gt;&gt; at his best but never quite good enough to be the biggest star. He
&gt;&gt; could fight with the best. Just didn't always win against the best.
&gt;&gt; &gt; Especially seeing as how those losses came during his presumptive
&gt;&gt; prime and Forrest in the end has been found to not measure up to the
&gt;&gt; greats. He was a
&gt;&gt;&gt; COMPLETE lightweight and holds two quality wins over Oscar De La
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hoya. Mosley is without question one of the best athletes in the sport.
&gt;&gt;&gt; He
&gt;&gt;&gt; fought Winky Wright tough twice. You think Hatton or Tszyu could do
&gt;&gt;&gt; that? Not a chance.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Kostya and Ricky aren't legends either except in the minds of their
&gt;&gt; over zealous fans.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; If he fights Floyd Mayweather Jr., people will be shocked how close
&gt;&gt;&gt; a fight it will be.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; If he fights Mayweather Jr at 154 Mosley probably overpowers Floyd
&gt;&gt; who is too small to hang at that weight.
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley is a top p4p fighter and on the verge of legendary status.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Round 6
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Vargas, exhorted by his trainger to win rounds, comes out looking
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to fire, but Mosley is too quick, and lands his left jab at will.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mosley and Vargas clinch, then are separated. Mosley scores with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; his left jab. Vargas' left jab is blocked. Mosley is cobra-quick,
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; staring and firing his left. Vargas counters with a left. Mosley
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; puts Vargas flat on his back with a devastating left in the final
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; minute of the round. Action resumes, Mosley goes in to finish it.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The fight is stopped. Sugar Shane Mosley wins by TKO.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt; v/r Dread Pirate Rackham
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;You know one things that's wrong with this country? Everybody gets a
&gt;&gt; chance to have their fair say.&quot; - President Clinton 28 May 1993
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending
&gt;&gt; that you can love your country but despise your government.&quot; -
&gt;&gt; President Clinton 5 May 1995

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v/r Dread Pirate Rackham

&quot;You know one things that's wrong with this country? Everybody gets a
chance to have their fair say.&quot; - President Clinton 28 May 1993

&quot;There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending
that you can love your country but despise your government.&quot; -
President Clinton 5 May 1995

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