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#1: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-14 19:20:33 by email_tonys

Weather.com has 64f at the 4am start tomorrow, with dew points in the
low-mid 60's throughout the day, leading up to a high of 92 Sat, with
isolated thunderstorms. Damn sure glad I'm not running that kind of race in
that kind of heat. My 1 hour easy run this morning in low 80's had my
clothes saturated. At least the Vermont 50 miler is in late September.

<a href="http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html" target="_blank">http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html</a>

-Tony

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#2: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 06:38:42 by Dot

Tony S. wrote:
&gt; Weather.com has 64f at the 4am start tomorrow, with dew points in the
&gt; low-mid 60's throughout the day, leading up to a high of 92 Sat, with
&gt; isolated thunderstorms. Damn sure glad I'm not running that kind of race in
&gt; that kind of heat. My 1 hour easy run this morning in low 80's had my
&gt; clothes saturated. At least the Vermont 50 miler is in late September.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html" target="_blank">http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html</a>
&gt;
&gt; -Tony
&gt;
&gt;
Doug did say he wanted to run 100 miles in a sauna, didn't he? ;)

Good thoughts are with him and the others running there.

Dot

--
&quot;Success is different things to different people&quot;
-Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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#3: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 11:08:45 by Parker Race

&quot;Dot&quot; &lt;dot.h@#duh?att.net&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Tony S. wrote:
&gt;&gt; Weather.com has 64f at the 4am start tomorrow, with dew points in the
&gt;&gt; low-mid 60's throughout the day, leading up to a high of 92 Sat, with
&gt;&gt; isolated thunderstorms. Damn sure glad I'm not running that kind of race
&gt;&gt; in
&gt;&gt; that kind of heat. My 1 hour easy run this morning in low 80's had my
&gt;&gt; clothes saturated. At least the Vermont 50 miler is in late September.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html" target="_blank">http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html</a>
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; -Tony
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt; Doug did say he wanted to run 100 miles in a sauna, didn't he? ;)

A sauna would be good, the weather in the Northeast is more like a steam
bath.
One of my friends who ran it last year when it was warm also is concerned
about the high humidity.
I have a feeling there will be a high attrtition rate.

&gt; Good thoughts are with him and the others running there.
&gt;
&gt; Dot
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; &quot;Success is different things to different people&quot;
&gt; -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
&gt;

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#4: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 16:00:14 by tom.banchy

Tony S. wrote:
&gt; Weather.com has 64f at the 4am start tomorrow, with dew points in the
&gt; low-mid 60's throughout the day, leading up to a high of 92 Sat, with
&gt; isolated thunderstorms. Damn sure glad I'm not running that kind of race in
&gt; that kind of heat. My 1 hour easy run this morning in low 80's had my
&gt; clothes saturated. At least the Vermont 50 miler is in late September.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html" target="_blank">http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html</a>

I just went out this morning around 8 AM for a little less than an
hour. Very tough conditions -- 77 deg F and 74 deg dewpoint here in
lovely Baltimore. Weighed in right before/after, and I lost 4 lbs of
sweat. VT weather should be similar.

Anybody who's toeing the line today has my utmost respect. I've done a
lot of hard events over the past few years, but NOTHING like a
100-miler on a day like today. Looking forward to the race report(s).

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#5: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 16:22:53 by lanceandrew

&gt; Anybody who's toeing the line today has my utmost respect.

per NOAA

Today: A chance of showers and thunderstorms after noon. Partly cloudy,
with a high around 88. South wind between 3 and 6 mph. Chance of
precipitation is 30%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an
inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Tonight: A chance of showers and thunderstorms, mainly before 9pm.
Partly cloudy, with a low around 65. South wind around 5 mph becoming
calm. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New rainfall amounts of less than
a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Interesting link for some background &amp; perspective on ultra'ing in
heat. For example once it's 85 &amp; if the humidity is 80, the Heat Index
is 97.

<a href="http://www.badwater.com/training/hoddeonheat.html" target="_blank">http://www.badwater.com/training/hoddeonheat.html</a>

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#6: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 16:45:38 by Ken Fortenberry

Tom B. wrote:
&gt;
&gt; I just went out this morning around 8 AM for a little less than an
&gt; hour. Very tough conditions -- 77 deg F and 74 deg dewpoint here in
&gt; lovely Baltimore. Weighed in right before/after, and I lost 4 lbs of
&gt; sweat. VT weather should be similar.
&gt;
&gt; Anybody who's toeing the line today has my utmost respect.

Here in Chambana, Illinois it was 79F and dewpoint 72F at
9 this morning, (at the airport, it's hotter here in town).

Anybody who participates in a race today is nuttier than
a friggin' fruitcake.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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#7: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 19:24:28 by email_tonys

&quot;Tony S.&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:email_tonys&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">email_tonys&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Weather.com has 64f at the 4am start tomorrow, with dew points in the
&gt; low-mid 60's throughout the day, leading up to a high of 92 Sat, with
&gt; isolated thunderstorms. Damn sure glad I'm not running that kind of race
in
&gt; that kind of heat. My 1 hour easy run this morning in low 80's had my
&gt; clothes saturated. At least the Vermont 50 miler is in late September.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html" target="_blank">http://www.vermont100.com/event_schedule.html</a>
&gt;
&gt; -Tony

On accuweather looks like more humid than forecast, but not as hot in the
low-mid 80's with the showers moving in. It's still a steambath anyway you
look at it. Still, having this long a race in mid-summer -- while maybe
safter in terms of hypothermia worries at night -- definitely deters me from
wanting to do it. Heck I often don't want to drag myself out on short
training runs when it's hot. It's so much nicer to do long stuff in cool
conditions.

The saving grace for the escarpment trail run in 2 weeks is that it's
*usually* 10+ degrees cooler (f) than it is in NYC, so if it's 90 in the
city, chances are good it will only be 80ish up there at higher elevations.

-Tony

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#8: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 20:04:24 by Dot

Parker Race wrote:
&gt; &quot;Dot&quot; &lt;dot.h@#duh?att.net&gt; wrote in message

&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Doug did say he wanted to run 100 miles in a sauna, didn't he? ;)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; A sauna would be good, the weather in the Northeast is more like a steam
&gt; bath.
&gt; One of my friends who ran it last year when it was warm also is concerned
&gt; about the high humidity.
&gt; I have a feeling there will be a high attrtition rate.
&gt;
My bad. Since saunas have some steam (water on rocks), I thought there
was noticeable steam in them - haven't used either. I just read the
difference between saunas and steam baths and RH is about 100% in steam
bath but only 10-15% in sauna. But saunas are a lot hotter, apparently.
Learn something new every day.;)

Dot

--
&quot;Success is different things to different people&quot;
-Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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#9: Re: Good luck to Vermont 100 Runners

Posted on 2006-07-15 23:07:34 by Parker Race

&quot;Dot&quot; &lt;dot.h@#duh?att.net&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Parker Race wrote:
&gt;&gt; &quot;Dot&quot; &lt;dot.h@#duh?att.net&gt; wrote in message
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Doug did say he wanted to run 100 miles in a sauna, didn't he? ;)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; A sauna would be good, the weather in the Northeast is more like a steam
&gt;&gt; bath.
&gt;&gt; One of my friends who ran it last year when it was warm also is concerned
&gt;&gt; about the high humidity.
&gt;&gt; I have a feeling there will be a high attrtition rate.
&gt; My bad. Since saunas have some steam (water on rocks), I thought there was
&gt; noticeable steam in them - haven't used either. I just read the difference
&gt; between saunas and steam baths and RH is about 100% in steam bath but only
&gt; 10-15% in sauna. But saunas are a lot hotter, apparently.

Yes saunas are hot so I guess the whether we've been having would be a
hybrid.
Very warm and close to 100% humidity. A steam sauna.
The good news is it has been overcast all day here it actually rained a
little 30 minutes ago.
I hope the sun stays in until tommorow afternoon when my race(s) are done.

&gt; Learn something new every day.;)
&gt;
&gt; Dot
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; &quot;Success is different things to different people&quot;
&gt; -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
&gt;

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