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#1: 1905 What was it like to play in England back then?

Posted on 2006-07-15 23:59:41 by fastlarry

1905 What was it like to play in England back then?

2 pages, 6-27-05, rev 2, 7-15-06, CR, Fast Larry Guninger, all rights
reserved, publishded in DC, bpn, czm,
upp, ppt, flp, rsb, btt, ip.

The game was English Billiards where to score you shoot into an object
ball and scratched the cue ball in a pocket called a losing hazard.
You could bank into an object ball and pot it, a winning hazard. You
could cannon two balls for a point. I once performed a trick shot on
my old video tape where I scored a very rare 13 point shot, Roberts
never made one, but had heard of it and I brought it to life and on
film to show what it would have looked like.

There are 3 balls on the table with 6 pockets, 2 whites and a red.
They are ivory and weigh 4 l/2 to 5ozs and are 2 l/6" in size. The
best players use Ivory, others use the Bonzoline imitations which have
over a million balls in daily use. They are 10s 6d. Per ball. Others
use the Cyrstalate's. Stevenson did a break of 703 with them. They
are also 10 & 6. Pool balls are today 2 l/4" made of phenolic
resin.

John Roberts against the Irish champion Duncan did a break of 821 on a
Ripley's table which is Mahogany and very heavy with the slate coming
in not 3, but 5 pieces and is not 1" as today, but 2". It was 5'
10" x ll' 8 =BE". Today they use 6x12'. The tables stood 2 to
3" higher up than our modern pool tables are today. Our pool tables
were lowered to save money on wood in the legs which means the lower
you must bend, the more back problems people now get.

The pockets were 3 l/4 to 3 5/8". An American Snooker table has
usually a 4" pocket in the corner. The standard pool pocket today is
4 =BE" and 4 l/2" is about as tight as we run into on tour today.
There was no standard, it was what ever they wanted to use for an
event. Cues were Ebony and thoroughly well-seasoned English ash. They
were 15 to 16 ozs and 56" to 56 l/2" long. Today's modern pool
cues are 19 oz and 58" long.

In London they did not buy the new wrapped high priced chalk, they just
drove down to the White cliffs of Dover and dug out a big hunk, cut
them in little cubes, allowed them to dry out in the sun and then used
the white chalk with no paper wrapping on their tips.

This data was published by the world champion John Roberts Sr., in his
1905 book, the game of billiards and how to play it.

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conquered, love conquerors all. Yes I really did do it all and you can
believe it, or not. If you don't believe it, C'est La Vie. &quot;
Shoot straight, innovate, never give up, just run out on the other guy
then there is no way for you to lose.
Either lead me, follow me or get the hell out of my way. Do one of the
three please. Come celebrate the wonder of this beautiful game with me
and become a student of it.
Be my friend, walk my way, flow with what I teach you and you will soar
like the Eagle into levels of excellence you never dreamed possible.
&quot;Winners make things happen. Losers let things happen.&quot; In the words
of Vince Lombardi, &quot;When it comes to the future, there are three kinds
of people: those who let it happen, those who make it happen, and those
who wonder what happened.&quot;
Rack em sausage, Go play fast and loose. Ride em hard, put em up wet,
leave the ladies smiling. Live free, die well with your boots on owing
no man nothing. May you be in heaven an hour before the devil knows
you're dead. In time, it's all dust in the wind anyway. Don't
take your self, or anything too serious, just be happy and healthy.
Laughter good whiskey and song is the best medicine. Be sure to take
the time, to smell the flowers along the way. Aristole said &quot;
Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end
of human existence.&quot; Die happy and you lived a good life.

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#2: Re: 1905 What was it like to play in England back then?

Posted on 2006-07-16 01:47:50 by fastlarry

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May God bless and peace be with you. May there now be peace between us.
If you are a real pool player, then fast truly loves you. May the wind
be always on your back and all 9 balls fall.
VENI VIDI VICI, OMNIA VINCIT AMOR. &quot;Latin for &quot;I came, I saw, I
conquered, love conquerors all. Yes I really did do it all and you can
believe it, or not. If you don't believe it, C'est La Vie. &quot; Shoot
straight, innovate, never give up, just run out on the other guy then
there is no way for you to lose. ..Winners NEVER QUIT, QUITTERS NEVER
WIN.
They say FL can not play. Then explain why he is on the Upa web site
ranked 35th in the world in mid 2006. All truth passes through three
stages. First it is ridiculed. Second it is violently opposed. Third it
is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer (1788
www.fastlarrypool.com best prices in the billiard store, 200 free
articles on how to play.
Lead me, follow me or get the hell out of my way. Do one of the three
please? Come celebrate the wonder of this beautiful game with me and
become a student of it.
Be my friend, walk my way, flow with what I teach you and you will soar
like the Eagle into levels of excellence you never dreamed possible.
Play by feel, not by systems; do not make a simple game complicated. Go
with what you know, go with what is natural.
&quot;Winners make things happen. Losers let things happen.&quot; In the words of
Vince Lombardi, &quot;When it comes to the future, there are three kinds of
people: those who let it happen, those who make it happen, and those
who wonder what happened.&quot; Vince said you've got to pay the price.
Winning is not a sometime thing, it's an all the time thing. Winning
is a habit, unfortunately so is losing. Vince Lombardi once said,
&quot;The quality of a person's life is in direct proportion to their
commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of
profession or endeavor. Fast Eddy said about the same thing in the
color of money.
Winning is everything. Winning is the only thing. If you can dream
it, see it, believe it, you can do it and you can be it. You can
perform totally out of the box deep into the Zone, one with the shot,
freewheeling fast and loose with no fear. Then you are a person with
no limits who can achieve anything he can imagine that a human body is
capable of producing. &quot;FL&quot;
Show me a guy who does not mind losing and I will show you a sausage.
Show me a good loser and I will show you a loser. &quot;FL&quot; &quot;Nice
guys finish last&quot; quote from Lou Durocher
&quot;Do, or do not. There is no 'try'.&quot; - Yoda

It is all about visualization, focus, concentration and playing in the
zone. You just see it, feel it, do it: It does not get any deeper
than this? Play pool with an empty mind. &quot;FL&quot;

&quot;Flow with what ever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay
centered by accepting what ever you are doing and what ever comes your
way.&quot;
Chuang-Tzu.

Opportunities multiply as they are seized.&quot; - Sun Tzu

Fortune favors the brave. Virgil, Aeneid Roman epic poet (70 BC - 19
BC)

Conquer your fear and you conquer the game, the battle, your life and
your fear of death. There is nothing impossible to him who will try.
Alexander The Great 320 BC.

For a man thinks within himself, so he is.&quot; Proverbs 23:7 &quot;I can
do all things through Christ who gives me strength.&quot; Philippians
4:13

In order to master pool you must first learn how to master yourself and
your emotions. &quot;For to conquer in battle a thousand men a thousand
times, means you have now conquered yourself and you are now the
greatest of warriors&quot; Dharmapada.

This is a feel game and a mind game. When the mind is pure, pure
perfect pool will follow. Perfect pool comes from being taught how to
practice perfect. Being in dead punch is the ultimate trip and reward
from that. &quot;FL&quot;


Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the
door will be opened to you.
Rack em sausage, Go play fast and loose. Ride em hard, put em up wet,
leave the ladies smiling. Live free, die well owing no man anything.
May you be in heaven an hour before the devil knows you're dead? In
time, it's all dust in the wind anyway. Don't take your self, or
anything too serious, just be happy and healthy. Laughter good whiskey
and song is the best medicine. If you have a library, a garden, a good
woman and a barrel of Scotch, you have all you need.
Every thing on the earth has a purpose, every disease an herb to cure
it, and every person a mission. You now must learn what you mission is
and fulfill your destiny. Pay your Karma off and be clean for the next
go around.
Be sure to take the time, to smell the flowers along the way. Life is
a waste of time, time is a waste of life, so get wasted all of the time
and have the time of your life. Wander in wonder of life and follow La
Vie Dansante. As my grand master said and I quote as a loyal parrot
head, why don't we get drunk and screw? Never act your age, stay
young forever. FL is 29; he plans to stay 29 forever. His kids are
now older than he is and do not understand him at all. In 7 more years
his grand children will be older than him. Fl says, when you begin to
act your age, it's all over for you. The number one cause of death
in old people is retirement. You must always have a hobby or a job, a
project or a hottie your old lady does not know about to keep you alive
and on earth with a purpose.
I want to die being totally alive with my boots on. I don't want to
die being brain dead for a decade with my boots off and rotting in a
bed on a pan. I want to die on top of a 19 year old hottie yelling
who's your daddy, Bonsai just as I catch the big one. Use your
imagination on that one. If you gotta go dudes, go out with a bang
hangin 10. Or when I die, I want to die like my grandfather-- who died
peacefully in his sleep with his boots on and not screaming like all
the passengers riding in his Lincoln Town car who were going downhill
on the interstate at 85mph at the time coming down out of the
mountains. Die happy and you lived a good life. Live you life daily
with honor and pride in your actions and you will sleep like a baby.
When it comes time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled
with the fear of death, so when their time comes they weep and pray for
a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way.
Sing your death song, and die like a hero going home. &quot;Quote Indian
Chief Aupumut.&quot;
FL say's only the good die young, God allows all pool hustlers to
live till they are 85 so they can suffer. If I knew I was going to
live this long I would have taken better care of my self. I had a damn
good run and more time here than I expected or planned for so if it all
ends tomorrow, no tears, I lived 3 life times in the same span a normal
man lives one.
Remember the words of the great Emiliano Zapata . . .
it is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. . .
I am just a simple teacher. All that I now know is that I now know
nothing. I am nothing but a good ball banger who teaches a good lesson
and puts on a good trick shot show that is the only two things I do
well in life. &quot;The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is
the illusion of knowledge.&quot;-Stephen Hawking
Aristotle said &quot;Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the
whole aim and end of human existence.&quot;
Fast Larry Guninger, real man, real pool player, real American, real
Christian.&quot; God bless the land of the free and of the brave. F=E1ilte
Roimh Cheart=FAch=E1in, Go dtuga Dia suaimhneas s=EDora=ED d=F3. Politically
he is John fookin Wayne and just a little to the right of Attila the
Hun. He say, I ain't runnin for gov-nor so you all can take all that
politically correct bull she-yit and stuff it where da sun don't
shine. I tell it like it is. Some of you, can't deal with the real
truth.

Minnesota Fats: Larry's teacher said? &quot;When I played pool I was like
a psychiatrist. I cured 'em of all their daydreams and delusions.&quot; &quot;You
don't learn from smart people, you learn from idiots. Watch what they
do, and then don't do it.&quot; Learn to be a lock smith. If you should be
giving the 7 and the snap, don't play for money unless you sell the
pigeon he should give you the 7 and the snap. Then you never lose.
Never put heat on your self, pressure is self induced; only you can put
it on, only you can take it off. The toughest player mentally wins when
skills are equal. &quot;Golf is 90% mental and 10% physical.&quot; -- Ben Hogan
said &quot;I am the toughest golfer mentally.&quot; -- Tiger Woods agrees as do
all the top pool players.
Paul Newman, in The Color of Money: &quot;Money won is twice as sweet as
money earned.&quot; FL says always have something riding on every match, it
steels the nerves.
W=2E C. Fields: &quot;Trust everyone-and always cut the cards.&quot; You can't
con an honest man. Never wise up a sucker or Give a sausage an even
break. Never loan a pool player a penny, but show him where the bank
is and send him there.

Come chat with Larry live at www.poolchat.net. Do not miss the
Encyclopedia of pool, over 200 instruction articles now up on
www.poolchat.net and it's all free. Come to Atlanta and be video
taped in a 7 million dollar state of the art facility in a private room
with 4 gold crowns with Larry one on one. A full day is only $350
which is only $43 an hr, every one else is charging double or triple
this. It is rated as the top teaching facility in the world.
770-381-6609 puts you on the schedule, or wait for FL to show up as he
is a pro UPA touring player and appears coast to coast and catch him
when he comes in town.
About FL's 20 world records, some try and dispute them, FL's answer
is you have two choice's here, you can believe it, or you can believe
it not, FL does not really give a damn which one you get on because he
knows he did them all and is done fighting any one about them. He
proved every one of them by the Guinness world book of records
standards back in the mid 90's. On each record, a full press
release, with the video tape and signed affidavits of the witnesses
were sent out to over 175 interested parties in the industry. 18 of
his 20 records were set not in a pool hall, but at Georgia Tech
University and filmed by an independent studio, TTN. Nobody had ever
proved any thing as complete and perfect as Larry did.
To him it's now a mute point dude. He goes out to his glory knowing
what he did. He offered to bet any one 10K to 300K he could pass a lie
detector test he did all that he said he did and from 1993 when this
offer hit the streets till today, over a decade and a half and not one
scum bum took the bet. FL put his fortune, where his mouth was and
defending what he did with his life savings. If he was a fraud,
somebody would have called his bluff and became rich. Those who
falsely accused him were backed down by him and exposed as the real
frauds and liars. They were all just jealous punks who were all
exposed as nobodies who only wanted to trash those who were what they
could never be, real pro's who could really play. The Hustler movie,
1961:
At Finley's mansion SARAH says:
Don't wear a mask, Eddie. You don't have to.
(points to Bert)
That's Turk, Eddie, the man who broke your
thumbs. Only he's not going to break your
thumbs. He'll break your heart, your guts. And
for the same reason -- 'cause he hates you,
'cause of what you are. 'Cause of what you have
And he hasn't.
This explains the jealous actions of many people on the pool chat
boards. They can't play, they hate those who can.
Later back at the hotel:
In the bathroom mirror we see Bert asleep on his bed. The sheets are
rumpled and tossed about. Then we see Sarah, in her slip, enter the
bathroom and shut the door. She takes out her lipstick and scrawls
across the image of herself in the glass &quot;Perverted, twisted,
crippled.&quot; She underlines the word &quot;crippled.&quot;
Those 3 words, describes the pool world fast larry came up in and
it's his goal in life to help change that image and see a new
generation of pro pool players get respect and finally play for and
earn serious money which they deserve. He want's to see pool become
the great sport it was when he first picked up a cue in the 1940's.
When the top Billiard player had the same respect, the same fame and
made more income than the world champion boxer, Dempsey, Tennis star
Tilden, Golfer Bobby Jones, football player Jim Thorpe and baseball
player Babe Ruth. His name was Willie Hoppe. He made a million dollars
a year.

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