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#1: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-23 18:56:12 by I like toys and cake

Hi Campers!

We have three absolute gems to choose from all at magnificent prices, if
we book this far ahead. Any feedback or opinions are welcome so we can
get things fixed, but I might just take an executive decision ;-)

The target is to book soon in June to get the tee times we want
(important if we want to play the Arden course). After we book we need
to get £35 deposits in, which I know is a massive commitment so far
ahead for us poor folk oop North, not forgetting those also going to
Aldwickbury for the annual Southern wound licking or the St Ives back
slapping!

Anyway, by then we should at least know whether the world has ended on
the 6th of June (6/6/6)!

I have tried to pick courses that have some reputation for being able to
cope with our (un)usual weather at the end of April and have moved the
date to try and help avoid clashing with Easter and usual club golf
activity.

Basing ourselves at an unattached hotel and playing private courses has
also been investigated but the deals are just not there, costs would be
significantly more (about £135 total) and bigger deposits up front :-(

To the details...
_______________

USG NORTH/SOUTH ANNUAL BASH

Dates:
Sunday 29th April 2007 to Monday 30th April 2007

Format:
Sunday (am): 4BBB Sunday (pm)
Monday (pm): 18 hole Stableford Matchplay with prizes for individuals

Numbers:
24 golfers (ideally)

_______________
Venue 1
FOREST OF ARDEN
Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/zlh5p" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/zlh5p</a>
Location: M1 side of Birmingham
Easy to get to for everyone, even those in Cornwall, Scotland and
Germany. Which reminds me, did anyone notice Tomi from Finland over the
weekend? I think he was wearing a mask but he certainly swung an axe
like a single figure golfer :-)

Round 1 on the Aylesford, round 2 on the Arden course

Cost pp based on sharing rooms Dinner/B/B:
£109 (including prizes)

Does what it says on the tin. The second course, though shorter still
comes well recommended and would complement the spirit of our group.
Problem with this place is that we need to commit early to reserve tee
on Monday am and I bet the drinks aren't cheap!

________________
Venue 2
WELCOMBE
Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/eh6nq" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/eh6nq</a>
Location: Stratford-Upon Avon off M40 near Warwick
Easier to get to from South, whippets will be knackered

Cost pp based on sharing rooms:
£99 (including prizes)

Looks rather plush to me, might consider bringing missus!

________________
Venue 3
STAVERTON PARK
Website: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/o2uc" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/o2uc</a>
Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/lm4gn" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/lm4gn</a>
Location: Near Daventry J16 / J18 from M1
Again, more in Southern climes but easily accessed by all

Cost pp based on sharing rooms:
£94 (including prizes)

This is a bit more of a conference style hotel, plain, clean and
functional. Good course reports though.

_________________

If we get inundated with expressions of desire for the FoA and shock at
it's VFM then the decision is easy. Otherwise we can take longer to
decide but will probably have to settle for one of the others which are
still outstanding venues, but hey, just imagine the reaction of your
friends at the beginning of May next year when you tell them where
you've just been...

Is it going to be:
&quot;Wow, What's it like? I bet that was expensive! What did you shoot? Did
you finish with the same ball?&quot;

or:
&quot;Where?&quot;

--
Demetri (Durram)

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#2: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-23 19:25:52 by I like toys and cake

Whoops!

Try this for Staverton <a href="http://tinyurl.com/o2ucz" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/o2ucz</a>

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#3: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-23 21:08:15 by John H

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; We have three absolute gems to choose from all at magnificent prices, if
&gt; we book this far ahead. Any feedback or opinions are welcome so we can
&gt; get things fixed, but I might just take an executive decision ;-)
&gt;
&gt; The target is to book soon in June to get the tee times we want
&gt; (important if we want to play the Arden course). After we book we need
&gt; to get £35 deposits in, which I know is a massive commitment so far
&gt; ahead for us poor folk oop North, not forgetting those also going to
&gt; Aldwickbury for the annual Southern wound licking or the St Ives back
&gt; slapping!
&gt;
&gt; Anyway, by then we should at least know whether the world has ended on
&gt; the 6th of June (6/6/6)!
&gt;
&gt; I have tried to pick courses that have some reputation for being able to
&gt; cope with our (un)usual weather at the end of April and have moved the
&gt; date to try and help avoid clashing with Easter and usual club golf
&gt; activity.
&gt;
&gt; Basing ourselves at an unattached hotel and playing private courses has
&gt; also been investigated but the deals are just not there, costs would be
&gt; significantly more (about £135 total) and bigger deposits up front :-(
&gt;
&gt; To the details...
&gt; _______________
&gt;
&gt; USG NORTH/SOUTH ANNUAL BASH
&gt;
&gt; Dates:
&gt; Sunday 29th April 2007 to Monday 30th April 2007
&gt;
&gt; Format:
&gt; Sunday (am): 4BBB Sunday (pm)
&gt; Monday (pm): 18 hole Stableford Matchplay with prizes for individuals
&gt;
&gt; Numbers:
&gt; 24 golfers (ideally)
&gt;
&gt; _______________
&gt; Venue 1
&gt; FOREST OF ARDEN
&gt; Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/zlh5p" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/zlh5p</a>
&gt; Location: M1 side of Birmingham
&gt; Easy to get to for everyone, even those in Cornwall, Scotland and
&gt; Germany. Which reminds me, did anyone notice Tomi from Finland over the
&gt; weekend? I think he was wearing a mask but he certainly swung an axe
&gt; like a single figure golfer :-)
&gt;
&gt; Round 1 on the Aylesford, round 2 on the Arden course
&gt;
&gt; Cost pp based on sharing rooms Dinner/B/B:
&gt; £109 (including prizes)
&gt;
&gt; Does what it says on the tin. The second course, though shorter still
&gt; comes well recommended and would complement the spirit of our group.
&gt; Problem with this place is that we need to commit early to reserve tee
&gt; on Monday am and I bet the drinks aren't cheap!
&gt;
&gt; ________________
&gt; Venue 2
&gt; WELCOMBE
&gt; Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/eh6nq" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/eh6nq</a>
&gt; Location: Stratford-Upon Avon off M40 near Warwick
&gt; Easier to get to from South, whippets will be knackered
&gt;
&gt; Cost pp based on sharing rooms:
&gt; £99 (including prizes)
&gt;
&gt; Looks rather plush to me, might consider bringing missus!
&gt;
&gt; ________________
&gt; Venue 3
&gt; STAVERTON PARK
&gt; Website: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/o2uc" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/o2uc</a>
&gt; Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/lm4gn" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/lm4gn</a>
&gt; Location: Near Daventry J16 / J18 from M1
&gt; Again, more in Southern climes but easily accessed by all
&gt;
&gt; Cost pp based on sharing rooms:
&gt; £94 (including prizes)
&gt;
&gt; This is a bit more of a conference style hotel, plain, clean and
&gt; functional. Good course reports though.
&gt;
&gt; _________________
&gt;
&gt; If we get inundated with expressions of desire for the FoA and shock at
&gt; it's VFM then the decision is easy. Otherwise we can take longer to
&gt; decide but will probably have to settle for one of the others which are
&gt; still outstanding venues, but hey, just imagine the reaction of your
&gt; friends at the beginning of May next year when you tell them where
&gt; you've just been...
&gt;
&gt; Is it going to be:
&gt; &quot;Wow, What's it like? I bet that was expensive! What did you shoot? Did
&gt; you finish with the same ball?&quot;
&gt;
&gt; or:
&gt; &quot;Where?&quot;
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Demetri (Durram)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
Dates are fine by me. FOA definitely my choice ( 2 new courses for me)

Thanks for looking

John

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#4: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-23 22:06:15 by corbei

On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:08:15 +0100, John H
&lt;<a href="mailto:johnny_bikeNOBIKE&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">johnny_bikeNOBIKE&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:


&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; USG NORTH/SOUTH ANNUAL BASH


&gt;Dates are fine by me. FOA definitely my choice ( 2 new courses for me)
&gt;
&gt;Thanks for looking
&gt;
&gt;John

Provisionally fine by me but I will have to check with Jnr. FOA for
choice with Staverton next.

Regards Jaygee

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#5: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-24 00:52:21 by Simon Ireland

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&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt; _______________
&gt; Venue 1
&gt; FOREST OF ARDEN
&gt; Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/zlh5p" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/zlh5p</a>
&gt; Location: M1 side of Birmingham
&gt; Easy to get to for everyone, even those in Cornwall, Scotland and
&gt; Germany. Which reminds me, did anyone notice Tomi from Finland over the
&gt; weekend? I think he was wearing a mask but he certainly swung an axe
&gt; like a single figure golfer :-)
&gt;
&gt; Round 1 on the Aylesford, round 2 on the Arden course
&gt;
&gt; Cost pp based on sharing rooms Dinner/B/B:
&gt; £109 (including prizes)
&gt;
&gt; Does what it says on the tin. The second course, though shorter still
&gt; comes well recommended and would complement the spirit of our group.
&gt; Problem with this place is that we need to commit early to reserve tee
&gt; on Monday am and I bet the drinks aren't cheap!
&gt;
&gt; ________________
&gt; Venue 2
&gt; WELCOMBE
&gt; Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/eh6nq" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/eh6nq</a>
&gt; Location: Stratford-Upon Avon off M40 near Warwick
&gt; Easier to get to from South, whippets will be knackered
&gt;
&gt; Cost pp based on sharing rooms:
&gt; £99 (including prizes)
&gt;
&gt; Looks rather plush to me, might consider bringing missus!
&gt;
&gt; ________________
&gt; Venue 3
&gt; STAVERTON PARK
&gt; Website: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/o2uc" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/o2uc</a>
&gt; Player Reports: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/lm4gn" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/lm4gn</a>
&gt; Location: Near Daventry J16 / J18 from M1
&gt; Again, more in Southern climes but easily accessed by all
&gt;
&gt; Cost pp based on sharing rooms:
&gt; £94 (including prizes)
&gt;
&gt; This is a bit more of a conference style hotel, plain, clean and
&gt; functional. Good course reports though.
&gt;
&gt; _________________
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Demetri (Durram)
&gt;

Having viewed your evidence, I think I would vote for the Forest of Arden
out of that choice of 3.
Dates are OK.

--
Regards
Simon Ireland
&quot;...The fanatical golfer should not worry about his standard of play,
as this will affect his standard of play.&quot;

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#6: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-24 11:19:13 by chainbreaker

Dates are fine by me. FoA by preference but will go with the majority if
different.
Do you have quotes for a single room?
KenH
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#7: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-24 12:29:45 by I like toys and cake

marush wrote:

&gt; Dates are fine by me. FoA by preference but will go with the majority if
&gt; different.
&gt; Do you have quotes for a single room?
&gt; KenH

Not yet, but I'm sure they will be available for high octane sleepers!

D

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#8: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-24 13:06:49 by wheis mi ball

Go for it! FoA would be my choice, price not much more anyway, just
think with the global climate changes, we could be in shorts!
Or if this years weather paterns are the norm, we maybe using ski-doos!

Chris

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#9: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-24 17:32:17 by Hick_and_Janet

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&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; We have three absolute gems to choose from all at magnificent prices, if
&gt; we book this far ahead. Any feedback or opinions are welcome so we can get
&gt; things fixed, but I might just take an executive decision ;-)

Dates are OK for us as far as we can tell from this far out. No really
strong preferences for the venue except to wonder if FOA isn't a bit tough
for some of us? Hick thinks it's great but how about we who are not in that
class? He is currently warming up for the Hickory Championships at Gullane
on Friday. His preparation includes camping - temperatures in Edinburgh were
close to freezing last night! I am off to play in a medal at Kirkby this
morning. Played yesterday - it was freezing cold and very windy. Same is
true today only with the added attraction of heavy showers. I hate winter
golf.....

Peace &amp; Love
Janet H
(Tee off to reply)

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#10: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-24 21:00:15 by I like toys and cake

Chris &amp; Janet Homer wrote:
[clip]
&gt; Dates are OK for us as far as we can tell from this far out. No really
&gt; strong preferences for the venue except to wonder if FOA isn't a bit tough
&gt; for some of us? Hick thinks it's great but how about we who are not in that
&gt; class?
[clip]
&gt; Peace &amp; Love
&gt; Janet H

As I haven't played the Arden I cannot speak with any authority as to
it's difficulty but these things are a 'product' and are presumably set
up to enable all standards of golfer to get round, enjoy and come back.
I also haven't been warned of any handicap limits and I'm sure there
have been many worse players who have knotched the Arden on their bag
than we encounter on this forum.

'From this far out' it may encourage us all to swot up on our course
management skills in trying to differentiate between the possible, the
probable and the realistic on our next shot.

However, though the social side is important on our venture the golf is
supposed to be for enjoyment not torture and now is a good time to voice
concerns of this nature.

If we were to choose FoA, we would be playing The Aylesbury course on
the Sunday which is shorter but just in as good condition apparently.
I'm sure we can make it work for one or even two groups to play that
again on the Monday instead. I'm sure we could fix it with the
management and work out scoring accordingly after all, matchplay is
matchplay.

Good luck to the Hick for his event,
-
Demetri

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#11: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 00:59:47 by Kev Nurse

Having failed to attend the last two events, I'm not best placed to
have a voice, but I would love to play FoA. Mrs N and the RAF will
need some convincing to allow me to commit well ahead. So at this
stage I'll watch the discussion from the sidelines and hopefully put my
name down for whatever and whenever if I can, in due course.

Regards
Kev

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#12: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 03:08:06 by I like toys and cake

Kev Nurse wrote:
&gt; Having failed to attend the last two events, I'm not best placed to
&gt; have a voice, but I would love to play FoA. Mrs N and the RAF will
&gt; need some convincing to allow me to commit well ahead. So at this
&gt; stage I'll watch the discussion from the sidelines and hopefully put my
&gt; name down for whatever and whenever if I can, in due course.
&gt;
&gt; Regards
&gt; Kev
&gt;

I also missed out on the last few events but it was great so see and
play with everyone again at Hawkstone this year though I could only make
it for the evening meal and Monday game.

The group is so different to any other group or society I play with in
that eveyone is keen and willing to talk seriously, share opinions and
take feedback about golf, it's rules, ettiquette and general running of
the game. Complemented of course with a smattering of nonsense and
occasional badger watching!

It will be great to see you again, Kev, I'm sure you'll be able to
accrue enough brownie points with both bosses between now and then.

--
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#13: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 07:05:03 by David Amos

FoA sounds like a good deal, and I'm still hopeful of attending one of these
matches at some stage. The hotel is likely to be somewhat soulless though,
and potentially full of corporate types...
If the eventual decision goes against that I'd love to go back to Staverton
Park, it was the venue for my first ever score of 90..... which required a
birdie three on the last hole. This on a 'morning after the night before'
day.

One other alternative to look at might be
<a href="http://www.farthingstone.co.uk/golf_breaks.htm," target="_blank">http://www.farthingstone.co.uk/golf_breaks.htm,</a> only one course but a good
one (the last time I was there) and a much more friendly and informal
atmposphere than is likely to be found at FoA or the other two.

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#14: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 10:56:57 by Judy

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&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
Snip&gt;
&gt; Dates:
&gt; Sunday 29th April 2007 to Monday 30th April 2007
&gt;
&gt; Format:
&gt; Sunday (am): 4BBB Sunday (pm)
&gt; Monday (pm): 18 hole Stableford Matchplay with prizes for individuals
&gt;
&gt; Numbers:
&gt; 24 golfers (ideally)
&gt;
&gt; Demetri (Durram)
Hi,
One concern is the extra cost of a single room (none at H'stone) otherwise I
will go along with the majority.
Note re deposit - I am on holiday for almost all of the first 3 weeks of
June. (Could mean missing deadlines and/or spent up.)
Judy

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#15: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 11:05:09 by I like toys and cake

David Amos wrote:
&gt; FoA sounds like a good deal, and I'm still hopeful of attending one of these
&gt; matches at some stage. The hotel is likely to be somewhat soulless though,
&gt; and potentially full of corporate types...
&gt; If the eventual decision goes against that I'd love to go back to Staverton
&gt; Park, it was the venue for my first ever score of 90..... which required a
&gt; birdie three on the last hole. This on a 'morning after the night before'
&gt; day.
&gt;
&gt; One other alternative to look at might be
&gt; <a href="http://www.farthingstone.co.uk/golf_breaks.htm," target="_blank">http://www.farthingstone.co.uk/golf_breaks.htm,</a> only one course but a good
&gt; one (the last time I was there) and a much more friendly and informal
&gt; atmposphere than is likely to be found at FoA or the other two.
&gt;
&gt;

Farthingstone was in the running for a while but didn't quite make it to
the final.

I'm sure it won't be soulless around our table, wherever we end up going!

It would be great to meet you, David - hope you can make it.

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#16: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 15:20:45 by Mark Myers

Demetri (Durram) wrote ...
&gt; Chris &amp; Janet Homer wrote:
&gt; [clip]
&gt; &gt; Dates are OK for us as far as we can tell from this far out. No really
&gt; &gt; strong preferences for the venue except to wonder if FOA isn't a bit tough
&gt; &gt; for some of us? Hick thinks it's great but how about we who are not in that
&gt; &gt; class?
&gt; [clip]
&gt; &gt; Peace &amp; Love
&gt; &gt; Janet H
&gt;
&gt; As I haven't played the Arden I cannot speak with any authority as to
&gt; it's difficulty but these things are a 'product' and are presumably set
&gt; up to enable all standards of golfer to get round, enjoy and come back.
&gt; I also haven't been warned of any handicap limits and I'm sure there
&gt; have been many worse players who have knotched the Arden on their bag
&gt; than we encounter on this forum.
&gt;
&gt; 'From this far out' it may encourage us all to swot up on our course
&gt; management skills in trying to differentiate between the possible, the
&gt; probable and the realistic on our next shot.
&gt;
&gt; However, though the social side is important on our venture the golf is
&gt; supposed to be for enjoyment not torture and now is a good time to voice
&gt; concerns of this nature.

This is a link to the scorecards:
<a href="http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=54" target="_blank">http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=54</a>
Arden off the yellows is similar to Hawkstone played off the whites,
about 6450 yards for the men. For the ladies the Arden is 5654 which is
actually less than Hawkstone at 5726.
<a href="http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=118" target="_blank">http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=118</a>

There are a few water features on the Arden, but probably not a lot more
than at the Windmill.

I'd be perfectly happy with Forest of Arden, about the only problem I
can see is having to book early, which is likely to rule out some
people. I'd be equally happy to go somewhere else if it meant we could
improve the numbers.

&gt; If we were to choose FoA, we would be playing The Aylesbury course on
&gt; the Sunday which is shorter but just in as good condition apparently.
&gt; I'm sure we can make it work for one or even two groups to play that
&gt; again on the Monday instead. I'm sure we could fix it with the
&gt; management and work out scoring accordingly after all, matchplay is
&gt; matchplay.

Day two is traditionally the singles strokeplay event for the Williams'
Cup, and I'm not sure how you'd score that if it was played on two
different courses. The matchplay element comes from the comparing the
strokeplay scores (usually Stableford) at the end of the round. Mind you
you're in charge, just bear in mind you need a winner to take over the
following year!

&gt; Good luck to the Hick for his event,

Indeed, and with the camping in less than glorious weather!

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#17: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 16:56:10 by I like toys and cake

Mark Myers wrote:
&gt; Demetri (Durram) wrote ...
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Chris &amp; Janet Homer wrote:
&gt;&gt;[clip]
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Dates are OK for us as far as we can tell from this far out. No really
&gt;&gt;&gt;strong preferences for the venue except to wonder if FOA isn't a bit tough
&gt;&gt;&gt;for some of us? Hick thinks it's great but how about we who are not in that
&gt;&gt;&gt;class?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;[clip]
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Peace &amp; Love
&gt;&gt;&gt;Janet H
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;As I haven't played the Arden I cannot speak with any authority as to
&gt;&gt;it's difficulty but these things are a 'product' and are presumably set
&gt;&gt;up to enable all standards of golfer to get round, enjoy and come back.
&gt;&gt;I also haven't been warned of any handicap limits and I'm sure there
&gt;&gt;have been many worse players who have knotched the Arden on their bag
&gt;&gt;than we encounter on this forum.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;'From this far out' it may encourage us all to swot up on our course
&gt;&gt;management skills in trying to differentiate between the possible, the
&gt;&gt;probable and the realistic on our next shot.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;However, though the social side is important on our venture the golf is
&gt;&gt;supposed to be for enjoyment not torture and now is a good time to voice
&gt;&gt;concerns of this nature.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; This is a link to the scorecards:
&gt; <a href="http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=54" target="_blank">http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=54</a>
&gt; Arden off the yellows is similar to Hawkstone played off the whites,
&gt; about 6450 yards for the men. For the ladies the Arden is 5654 which is
&gt; actually less than Hawkstone at 5726.
&gt; <a href="http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=118" target="_blank">http://www.golfbreaks.com/golf/scorecard.asp?v=118</a>
&gt;
&gt; There are a few water features on the Arden, but probably not a lot more
&gt; than at the Windmill.
&gt;
&gt; I'd be perfectly happy with Forest of Arden, about the only problem I
&gt; can see is having to book early, which is likely to rule out some
&gt; people. I'd be equally happy to go somewhere else if it meant we could
&gt; improve the numbers.
&gt;

Indeed I share your concerns about having to book early but I'm not sure
if booking late doesn't rule people out because diaries have already
been filled. Similarly, playing a 'name' course is equally likely to
attract more or deter people. You just can't win, as you know yourself.

&gt;
&gt;&gt;If we were to choose FoA, we would be playing The Aylesbury course on
&gt;&gt;the Sunday which is shorter but just in as good condition apparently.
&gt;&gt;I'm sure we can make it work for one or even two groups to play that
&gt;&gt;again on the Monday instead. I'm sure we could fix it with the
&gt;&gt;management and work out scoring accordingly after all, matchplay is
&gt;&gt;matchplay.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Day two is traditionally the singles strokeplay event for the Williams'
&gt; Cup, and I'm not sure how you'd score that if it was played on two
&gt; different courses. The matchplay element comes from the comparing the
&gt; strokeplay scores (usually Stableford) at the end of the round. Mind you
&gt; you're in charge, just bear in mind you need a winner to take over the
&gt; following year!
&gt;

Don't worry, the European Tour School mangages just fine and I'm sure
we'll be able to pick a winner. In fact I already know who the winner is ;-)

Anyway, are you ruling yourself out or in? At the moment, as Malcolm has
pointed out, there are about seven for North expressing an interest all
ganging up against poor Simon!
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Posted on 2006-05-25 17:06:34 by I like toys and cake

Judy wrote:

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&gt;
&gt;&gt;Hi Campers!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Dates:
&gt;&gt;Sunday 29th April 2007 to Monday 30th April 2007
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Format:
&gt;&gt;Sunday (am): 4BBB Sunday (pm)
&gt;&gt;Monday (pm): 18 hole Stableford Matchplay with prizes for individuals
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Numbers:
&gt;&gt;24 golfers (ideally)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Demetri (Durram)
&gt;
&gt; Hi,
&gt; One concern is the extra cost of a single room (none at H'stone) otherwise I
&gt; will go along with the majority.
&gt; Note re deposit - I am on holiday for almost all of the first 3 weeks of
&gt; June. (Could mean missing deadlines and/or spent up.)
&gt; Judy
&gt;
&gt;

I have been quoted that for Forest of Arden, the single room supplement
is £35. The single room supplement for Staverton is £15.

If we are tempted to treat a non-golfing partner or friend along the
non-golfer rates are £82 and £59 respectively.

Hope this helps.
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Demetri

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Posted on 2006-05-25 17:11:05 by John Laird

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; Hi Campers!

Hi to you too.

Well done on getting so much investigation in, so quickly. I'm sure it
will come as no surprise to hear that my 12 points goes to the Forest
of Arden. (I tuned in accidentally to that damned show, half-way
through the voting and had to hang around to see and hear exactly what
the winning band's performance was like...)

Back to golf.

You would look hard to find a venue that was more central, accessible,
and generally well-received. At the quoted price, it must be
considered a bargain. Your points on course set-up for all levels of
player are well made.

I would advise you to be about 300% sure of the policy on deposits,
refunds, no-shows, etc. I think I had to let a tee-time go at HP last
year some weeks before the event because it was likely to incur a
charge. Room deposits are generally non-refundable, but I think that's
widely understood. Be prepared for a few sleepless nights nearer the
time as attendees develop uncertainties about what had been certainties
:-) I think it is only sensible to be pragmatic about availability and
advance commitments - if we don't want to play at short notice at
Scrubs-by-Sewageworks pay-n-play then we do have to look ahead. (I'm
always slightly bemused by folks who &quot;aren't sure what they're doing 11
months away&quot;. I'm playing golf with usg, that's what I'm doing !)

I'll definitely be there.

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#20: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 17:14:54 by John Laird

Demetri (Durram) wrote:

&gt; I have been quoted that for Forest of Arden, the single room supplement
&gt; is =A335. The single room supplement for Staverton is =A315.

Ouch, that's a bit steep. You could always try some smooth talking...

--=20
John

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#21: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 17:18:18 by Davie

&gt; At the moment, as Malcolm has pointed out, there are about seven for North
&gt; expressing an interest all ganging up against poor Simon!

Add me to the list of Northerners!

Dave R

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Posted on 2006-05-25 17:18:41 by Malcolm Wadsworth

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&gt; If we were to choose FoA, we would be playing The Aylesbury course on the
&gt; Sunday which is shorter but just in as good condition apparently. I'm sure
&gt; we can make it work for one or even two groups to play that again on the
&gt; Monday instead. I'm sure we could fix it with the management and work out
&gt; scoring accordingly after all, matchplay is matchplay.
&gt;
&gt; Good luck to the Hick for his event,
&gt; -
&gt; Demetri


Demetri,
I agree with Mark.
While some competitors playing a different course would not matter as far
as the Morton Plate is concerned, it would not be satisfactory for the
Williams Cup.
We could have a situation where the results of a volunteer minority playing
the alternate course counted to the Morton Plate were disqualified from the
Williams Cup but then the problem is everyone wants to win the Williams Cup
for the ecstatic pleasure of organising next year's event ;-)

Regards,
Malcolm

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#23: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 17:35:33 by Mark Myers

Demetri (Durram) wrote ...
&gt; Mark Myers wrote:
&gt; &gt; I'd be perfectly happy with Forest of Arden, about the only problem I
&gt; &gt; can see is having to book early, which is likely to rule out some
&gt; &gt; people. I'd be equally happy to go somewhere else if it meant we could
&gt; &gt; improve the numbers.
&gt;
&gt; Indeed I share your concerns about having to book early but I'm not sure
&gt; if booking late doesn't rule people out because diaries have already
&gt; been filled. Similarly, playing a 'name' course is equally likely to
&gt; attract more or deter people. You just can't win, as you know yourself.

True. I mentioned this to a colleague and he expressed an interest (and
he's played there before).

&gt; Anyway, are you ruling yourself out or in? At the moment, as Malcolm has
&gt; pointed out, there are about seven for North expressing an interest all
&gt; ganging up against poor Simon!

Definitely in, wherever you finally choose. FoA is my preference. If you
pick FoA I'll tell my colleague and try to get a firmer commitment.

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#24: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 17:49:28 by Hick_and_Janet

&quot;John Laird&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lairdy&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">lairdy&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; Hi to you too.
&gt;
&gt; Well done on getting so much investigation in, so quickly. I'm sure it
&gt; will come as no surprise to hear that my 12 points goes to the Forest
&gt; of Arden. (I tuned in accidentally to that damned show, half-way
&gt; through the voting and had to hang around to see and hear exactly what
&gt; the winning band's performance was like...)
&gt;
&gt; Back to golf.
&gt;
&gt; You would look hard to find a venue that was more central, accessible,
&gt; and generally well-received. At the quoted price, it must be
&gt; considered a bargain. Your points on course set-up for all levels of
&gt; player are well made.
&gt;
&gt; I would advise you to be about 300% sure of the policy on deposits,
&gt; refunds, no-shows, etc. I think I had to let a tee-time go at HP last
&gt; year some weeks before the event because it was likely to incur a
&gt; charge. Room deposits are generally non-refundable, but I think that's
&gt; widely understood. Be prepared for a few sleepless nights nearer the
&gt; time as attendees develop uncertainties about what had been certainties
&gt; :-) I think it is only sensible to be pragmatic about availability and
&gt; advance commitments - if we don't want to play at short notice at
&gt; Scrubs-by-Sewageworks pay-n-play then we do have to look ahead. (I'm
&gt; always slightly bemused by folks who &quot;aren't sure what they're doing 11
&gt; months away&quot;. I'm playing golf with usg, that's what I'm doing !)
&gt;
&gt; I'll definitely be there.
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; John
&gt;#
I am very happy to play on the same course as everyone else (wouldn't want
to do other than that, in fact) and I am quite happy to play on any golf
course chosen whateber its degree of difficulty! Just thought I would ask
the question.

As to 'not knowing what we are doing so far ahead' - with the hickory
business, we often do not know so far in advance which dates will have
bookings, hence we take a chance that the dates will be free for us both as
we value our USG weekend highly and support all the efforts all the
organisers over the years with appreciation.


Peace &amp; Love
Janet H
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#25: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-25 18:37:35 by Malcolm Wadsworth

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&gt; Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; You would look hard to find a venue that was more central, accessible,
&gt; and generally well-received. At the quoted price, it must be
&gt; considered a bargain. Your points on course set-up for all levels of
&gt; player are well made.
&gt;
&gt; I would advise you to be about 300% sure of the policy on deposits,
&gt; refunds, no-shows, etc. I think I had to let a tee-time go at HP last
&gt; year some weeks before the event because it was likely to incur a
&gt; charge. Room deposits are generally non-refundable, but I think that's
&gt; widely understood. Be prepared for a few sleepless nights nearer the
&gt; time as attendees develop uncertainties about what had been certainties
&gt; :-) I think it is only sensible to be pragmatic about availability and
&gt; advance commitments - if we don't want to play at short notice at
&gt; Scrubs-by-Sewageworks pay-n-play then we do have to look ahead.

(I'm always slightly bemused by folks who &quot;aren't sure what they're doing
11
&gt; months away&quot;. I'm playing golf with usg, that's what I'm doing !)
&gt;
&gt; I'll definitely be there.
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; John
&gt;
Well said John.

I have booked the date and am prepared to pay the deposit.
If I find later I cannot attend for whatever reason - I will just think of
the money I saved on the Sweepstakes and wine!!
and if I can sell on my deposit so much the better.

I too would like to know the booking conditions.
I can book a room at the FoA by credit card and if it is like the De Vere
Belfry, I would incur no cost if I cancelled anything up to (I think) the
day before.

Golf Societies, when booking at a club, usually give an estimate of
numbers and a deposit based on those numbers which is confirmed nearer the
date.
A club does not usually ask for additional deposits if the numbers are more
and if less, it doesn't matter since the deposit is deduced from the total
bill. Shortly before the date numbers have to be finalised and the society
is then committed to that number. Even then an odd extra one or two can
generally be squeezed in.

Is it possible to book in as a Society for the golf, evening meal, etc, and
then let individuals book their own accommodation, either at FoA or near by?
People can then book that nearer the day without too much risk of
accommodation being a stumbling block to their attending.

Regards,
Malcolm

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#26: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-26 13:39:06 by John Laird

Chris &amp; Janet Homer wrote:

&gt; I am very happy to play on the same course as everyone else (wouldn't want
&gt; to do other than that, in fact) and I am quite happy to play on any golf
&gt; course chosen whateber its degree of difficulty! Just thought I would ask
&gt; the question.

And perfectly fair, too. It does not look like a &quot;difficult&quot; track,
but one can never be sure until actually playing that.

&gt; As to 'not knowing what we are doing so far ahead' - with the hickory
&gt; business, we often do not know so far in advance which dates will have
&gt; bookings, hence we take a chance that the dates will be free for us both as
&gt; we value our USG weekend highly and support all the efforts all the
&gt; organisers over the years with appreciation.

Your support and your own efforts over the years are also much
appreciated, Janet. We all have our own priorities and juggle
personal, work and social lives in our own ways. Social considerations
are often at the bottom of the pile, but there are times when they can
be considered important enough to take top priority. For me, this is
easier to do the further in advance the proposed event. Other,
normally more important matters, can then fit in around them. I fully
understand that some of the group have work considerations and
conditions that can prevent advance commitment, and my remarks were not
so much aimed at those, as to others who do simply say &quot;I can't commit
in advance&quot;. Being able to commit at two weeks notice is of course of
no practical use to an organiser !

Anyway, for those who haven't read it already, this little tale sums
things up nicely (and for some of us, the golf balls represent golf
balls !):-


A professor stood before his Philosophy 101 class and had some items in
front of him. When the class began, wordlessly, he picked up a very
large and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf
balls. He then asked the students if the jar was full? They all agreed
that it was.

So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into
the jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, or course, rolled into
the open areas between the golf balls. He then asked the students again
if the jar was full. They all agreed it was.

The professor picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of
course, the sand filled up everything else. He then asked once more if
the jar was full. The students responded with a unanimous, yes.

The professor then produced two cans of beer from under the desk and
proceeded to pour the entire contents into the jar effectively filling
the empty space between the sand. The students laughed.

&quot;Now,&quot; said the professor, as the laughter subsided, &quot;I want you
to recognize that this jar represents your life. The golf balls are for
the important things...your family, your partners, your health, your
children, your friends, your favorite passions....things that if
everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still
be full.&quot;

&quot;The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your
house, your car. The sand is everything else...the small stuff.&quot;

&quot;If you put the sand into the jar first,&quot; he continued, &quot;there is
no room for the pebbles or the golf balls. The same goes for your life.
If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will
never have room for the things that are important to you. Pay attention
to the things that are critical to your happiness. Play with your
children.&quot;

Take time to get medical checkups. Take your partner out dancing. Play
another 18 holes. There will always be time to go to work, clean the
house, give a dinner party and fix the disposal. Take care of the golf
balls first...the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The
rest is just sand.&quot;

One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the beer
represented. The professor smiled and said, &quot;I'm glad you asked. It
just goes to show you that no matter how full your life may seem,
there's always room for a couple of beers.&quot;

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John

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Posted on 2006-05-29 12:28:38 by I like toys and cake

Hi Campers!

We are currently inundated with positive responses for the FoA option
for next year's Bash.

However, players who generally play on the North team seem to have a
paucity of opponents from the South!

It would be great if I could get a clearer idea on intended numbers soon
so I can re-join the rest of society.

On timings, this is how I see it progressing:

Now: finding out who is interested.
End of June: making a booking
Mid to End of August: raking in and sending off deposits
September to April: save up small amounts per week/month and relax over
and above the usual stressful times of birthdays, anniversaries,
Christmas rules quiz and New Year.
April: Collect balances. Panic. Play golf. Win again. Doh!

Come on ye chaps and chapesses, if there are any consideration about
location or dates etc now is the time we can adjust things to try and
encompass more folks in the fun.
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#28: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-29 14:46:46 by Malcolm Wadsworth

Count me in, Demetri

Malcolm

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Posted on 2006-05-29 16:20:36 by RussT

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; We are currently inundated with positive responses for the FoA option
&gt; for next year's Bash.
&gt;
&gt; However, players who generally play on the North team seem to have a
&gt; paucity of opponents from the South!
&gt;

I am hopeful of attending, 'specially if at FOA!!

Russ

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Posted on 2006-05-29 17:29:29 by Crispin Roche

On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:28:38 +0100, &quot;Demetri (Durram)&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:me&#64;privacy.net" target="_blank">me&#64;privacy.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt;We are currently inundated with positive responses for the FoA option
&gt;for next year's Bash.
&gt;
&gt;However, players who generally play on the North team seem to have a
&gt;paucity of opponents from the South!
&gt;
&gt;It would be great if I could get a clearer idea on intended numbers soon
&gt;so I can re-join the rest of society.
&gt;
&gt;On timings, this is how I see it progressing:
&gt;
&gt;Now: finding out who is interested.

I should be able to make the 2007 bash so count me in.

Crispin Roche

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Posted on 2006-05-29 20:19:13 by John Laird

Count me in, Demetri. Date, venue, cost, all absolutely fine.
Everything except your wild prediction on the likely winner is fine, in
fact !

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#32: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-29 20:20:56 by John Laird

RussT wrote:
&gt;
&gt; I am hopeful of attending, 'specially if at FOA!!

Glutton for punishment eh, Russ ? Seriously, it'd be good to have you
along again.

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Posted on 2006-05-29 20:46:35 by Judy

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&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; We are currently inundated with positive responses for the FoA option for
&gt; next year's Bash.
&gt;
&gt; However, players who generally play on the North team seem to have a
&gt; paucity of opponents from the South!
&gt;
&gt; It would be great if I could get a clearer idea on intended numbers soon
&gt; so I can re-join the rest of society.
&gt;
&gt; On timings, this is how I see it progressing:
&gt;
&gt; Now: finding out who is interested.
&gt; End of June: making a booking
&gt; Mid to End of August: raking in and sending off deposits
&gt; September to April: save up small amounts per week/month and relax over
&gt; and above the usual stressful times of birthdays, anniversaries, Christmas
&gt; rules quiz and New Year.
&gt; April: Collect balances. Panic. Play golf. Win again. Doh!
&gt;
&gt; Come on ye chaps and chapesses, if there are any consideration about
&gt; location or dates etc now is the time we can adjust things to try and
&gt; encompass more folks in the fun.
&gt; --
&gt; Demetri

Hi
FoA sounds good, but unfortunately £35 for single room supplement is a bit
steep for me, so unless I can twist someone's arm before the end of June,
you may have to count me out. I'll let you know asap.
Judy

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Posted on 2006-05-30 10:20:09 by Mark Myers

Demetri (Durram) wrote ...
&gt;
&gt; It would be great if I could get a clearer idea on intended numbers soon
&gt; so I can re-join the rest of society.

I'm in please.

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Posted on 2006-05-30 10:36:43 by chainbreaker

Count me in,
KenH
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#36: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 12:03:31 by I like toys and cake

Hi Campers!

Thanks for the responses so far, according to my reading and
interpretation we have the following making up the happy band.

1 David AMOS N
2 Chris BOOTH N
3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
4 John GIBB N
5 John HALLAS N
6 Chris HOMER N
7 Janet HOMER N
8 Ken HOYLE N
9 John LAIRD N
10 Kev NURSE N
11 Dave ROBINSON N
12 Judy DAVIES N
13 Simon IRELAND S
14 Mark MYERS S
15 Crispin ROCHE S
16 Russ TIZARD S
17 Malcolm WADSWORTH S

All have expressed interest in going to the USG 2007 North/South Annual
Bash, at Forest of Arden, Sunday 29th April to Monday 30th April.
(Please let me have corrected name spellings and intended allegiances if
applicable.)

There still seems to be a number of notable South team members who I
hope will be interested in joining in. I think the ideal stopping
point/target is 24 players plus a couple of reserves in case the
proverbial bus comes along but this goal is looking a bit tight at the
moment.

I'm away from my computer from early Wednesday and shall return from
part two of my May tour Monday next having taken in Shiskine (Arran,
<a href="http://www.shiskinegolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.shiskinegolf.com/</a>) and Machrihanish (Kintyre,
<a href="http://www.machgolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.machgolf.com/</a>). I am taking plenty of balls, jumpers and
spare pairs of socks but no computer and no mobile. My desolation will
be accompanied by the flavours of peat, oak, liquorice and fresh sea air.

Hopefully on my return, I shall still have a business to come to and
another half dozen or so more intending campers for our Annual Bash.

Wish you were here!
--
Demetri (Durram)

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#37: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 12:08:39 by I like toys and cake

Judy wrote:


&gt; Hi
&gt; FoA sounds good, but unfortunately £35 for single room supplement is a bit
&gt; steep for me, so unless I can twist someone's arm before the end of June,
&gt; you may have to count me out. I'll let you know asap.
&gt; Judy
&gt;
&gt;

It does sound steep but I am confident of a meaningful reduction, though
they haven't yet conceded the point - stick in there!

D

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#38: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 12:09:28 by I like toys and cake

John Laird wrote:

&gt; RussT wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;I am hopeful of attending, 'specially if at FOA!!
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Glutton for punishment eh, Russ ? Seriously, it'd be good to have you
&gt; along again.
&gt;
His ears must've been burning!

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#39: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 17:19:26 by peter kook

Paul Schmitz-Josten wrote:
&gt; Demetri (Durram) in &lt;e5eicm$aej$1$<a href="mailto:8300dec7&#64;news.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">8300dec7&#64;news.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;It would be great if I could get a clearer idea on intended numbers soon
&gt;&gt;so I can re-join the rest of society.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I'm quite attracted by your recent reports and by the friendly invitation,
&gt; and yes, I'm interested to join you. Alas, air transport is an unsolved
&gt; subject since I only find scheduled flights for 250 ¤ (return) but no
&gt; budget flights. One year in advance seems to be too long for those airlines
&gt; - I'll have to wait before making a definite statement.
&gt;
&gt; Ciao,
&gt;
&gt; Paul
Forest of Arden is almost within walking distance of Birmingham airport

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#40: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 17:25:49 by peter kook

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for the responses so far, according to my reading and
&gt; interpretation we have the following making up the happy band.
&gt;
&gt; 1 David AMOS N
&gt; 2 Chris BOOTH N
&gt; 3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
&gt; 4 John GIBB N
&gt; 5 John HALLAS N
&gt; 6 Chris HOMER N
&gt; 7 Janet HOMER N
&gt; 8 Ken HOYLE N
&gt; 9 John LAIRD N
&gt; 10 Kev NURSE N
&gt; 11 Dave ROBINSON N
&gt; 12 Judy DAVIES N
&gt; 13 Simon IRELAND S
&gt; 14 Mark MYERS S
&gt; 15 Crispin ROCHE S
&gt; 16 Russ TIZARD S
&gt; 17 Malcolm WADSWORTH S
&gt;
&gt; All have expressed interest in going to the USG 2007 North/South Annual
&gt; Bash, at Forest of Arden, Sunday 29th April to Monday 30th April.
&gt; (Please let me have corrected name spellings and intended allegiances if
&gt; applicable.)
&gt;
&gt; There still seems to be a number of notable South team members who I
&gt; hope will be interested in joining in. I think the ideal stopping
&gt; point/target is 24 players plus a couple of reserves in case the
&gt; proverbial bus comes along but this goal is looking a bit tight at the
&gt; moment.
&gt;
&gt; I'm away from my computer from early Wednesday and shall return from
&gt; part two of my May tour Monday next having taken in Shiskine (Arran,
&gt; <a href="http://www.shiskinegolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.shiskinegolf.com/</a>) and Machrihanish (Kintyre,
&gt; <a href="http://www.machgolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.machgolf.com/</a>). I am taking plenty of balls, jumpers and
&gt; spare pairs of socks but no computer and no mobile. My desolation will
&gt; be accompanied by the flavours of peat, oak, liquorice and fresh sea air.
&gt;
&gt; Hopefully on my return, I shall still have a business to come to and
&gt; another half dozen or so more intending campers for our Annual Bash.
&gt;
&gt; Wish you were here!
&gt; --
&gt; Demetri (Durram)
I am also interested in joining in , but on a non-residential basis as I
live locally .(you might might to keep me in mind as a makeweight or
reserve in case of odd numbers. Don't know what sort of deal they might
offer for green fees only do you?

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#41: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 18:58:26 by I like toys and cake

mike short wrote:
&gt; Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Thanks for the responses so far, according to my reading and
&gt;&gt; interpretation we have the following making up the happy band.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; 1 David AMOS N
&gt;&gt; 2 Chris BOOTH N
&gt;&gt; 3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
&gt;&gt; 4 John GIBB N
&gt;&gt; 5 John HALLAS N
&gt;&gt; 6 Chris HOMER N
&gt;&gt; 7 Janet HOMER N
&gt;&gt; 8 Ken HOYLE N
&gt;&gt; 9 John LAIRD N
&gt;&gt; 10 Kev NURSE N
&gt;&gt; 11 Dave ROBINSON N
&gt;&gt; 12 Judy DAVIES N
&gt;&gt; 13 Simon IRELAND S
&gt;&gt; 14 Mark MYERS S
&gt;&gt; 15 Crispin ROCHE S
&gt;&gt; 16 Russ TIZARD S
&gt;&gt; 17 Malcolm WADSWORTH S
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; All have expressed interest in going to the USG 2007 North/South
&gt;&gt; Annual Bash, at Forest of Arden, Sunday 29th April to Monday 30th
&gt;&gt; April. (Please let me have corrected name spellings and intended
&gt;&gt; allegiances if applicable.)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; There still seems to be a number of notable South team members who I
&gt;&gt; hope will be interested in joining in. I think the ideal stopping
&gt;&gt; point/target is 24 players plus a couple of reserves in case the
&gt;&gt; proverbial bus comes along but this goal is looking a bit tight at the
&gt;&gt; moment.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I'm away from my computer from early Wednesday and shall return from
&gt;&gt; part two of my May tour Monday next having taken in Shiskine (Arran,
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.shiskinegolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.shiskinegolf.com/</a>) and Machrihanish (Kintyre,
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.machgolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.machgolf.com/</a>). I am taking plenty of balls, jumpers and
&gt;&gt; spare pairs of socks but no computer and no mobile. My desolation will
&gt;&gt; be accompanied by the flavours of peat, oak, liquorice and fresh sea air.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hopefully on my return, I shall still have a business to come to and
&gt;&gt; another half dozen or so more intending campers for our Annual Bash.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Wish you were here!
&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt; Demetri (Durram)
&gt;
&gt; I am also interested in joining in , but on a non-residential basis as I
&gt; live locally .(you might might to keep me in mind as a makeweight or
&gt; reserve in case of odd numbers. Don't know what sort of deal they might
&gt; offer for green fees only do you?

It is something I'm looking in to, Mike - their single penalty
supplement is a bit of a cheek and there may be accommodation for
singletons close by. What seems to be the case though is that one side
offsets the other so golf and accommodation come as a package. Ideally I
want simplicity but the truth is if I'd wanted enough I'd have missed a
few more puts!!! So we are where we are. I am still awaiting a reply on
my enquiry regarding the above and with report when I get further info
--
Demetri (Durram)

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#42: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 19:07:34 by I like toys and cake

Hi Paul,

I understand your travel considerations but have included you on the
'Interested' list as I am sure you will be able to resolve them by maybe
using the USG 2007 bash as an excuse for a short holiday in the area -
whatever!

As you have now taken over from me as having the longest surname and I
have had to widen my spreadsheet you are more than welcome :-)

Updated 'Interested' list as follows:

1 David AMOS N
2 Chris BOOTH N
3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
4 John GIBB N
5 John GIBB Jnr N
6 John HALLAS N
7 Chris HOMER N
8 Janet HOMER N
9 Ken HOYLE N
10 John LAIRD N
11 Kev NURSE N
12 Dave ROBINSON N
13 Judy ROBINSON N
14 Johnty N
15 Simon IRELAND S
16 Mark MYERS S
17 Crispin ROCHE S
18 Paul SCHMITZ-JOSTEN S
19 Mike SHORT S
20 Russ TIZARD S
21 Malcolm WADSWORTH S

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#43: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 19:28:07 by Bill Seddon

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; Hi Paul,
&gt;
&gt; I understand your travel considerations but have included you on the
&gt; 'Interested' list as I am sure you will be able to resolve them by maybe
&gt; using the USG 2007 bash as an excuse for a short holiday in the area -
&gt; whatever!
&gt;
&gt; As you have now taken over from me as having the longest surname and I
&gt; have had to widen my spreadsheet you are more than welcome :-)
&gt;
&gt; Updated 'Interested' list as follows:
&gt;
&gt; 1 David AMOS N
&gt; 2 Chris BOOTH N
&gt; 3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
&gt; 4 John GIBB N
&gt; 5 John GIBB Jnr N
&gt; 6 John HALLAS N
&gt; 7 Chris HOMER N
&gt; 8 Janet HOMER N
&gt; 9 Ken HOYLE N
&gt; 10 John LAIRD N
&gt; 11 Kev NURSE N
&gt; 12 Dave ROBINSON N
&gt; 13 Judy ROBINSON N
&gt; 14 Johnty N
&gt; 15 Simon IRELAND S
&gt; 16 Mark MYERS S
&gt; 17 Crispin ROCHE S
&gt; 18 Paul SCHMITZ-JOSTEN S
&gt; 19 Mike SHORT S
&gt; 20 Russ TIZARD S
&gt; 21 Malcolm WADSWORTH S

Hi

count me in as well. I may have other commitments then, but at the
moment should be able to come along.

Bill Seddon ( North)

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#44: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 22:04:08 by John Turner

&quot;Demetri (Durram)&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:me&#64;privacy.net" target="_blank">me&#64;privacy.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for the responses so far, according to my reading and
&gt; interpretation we have the following making up the happy band.
&gt;
&gt; 1 David AMOS N
&gt; 2 Chris BOOTH N
&gt; 3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
&gt; 4 John GIBB N
&gt; 5 John HALLAS N
&gt; 6 Chris HOMER N
&gt; 7 Janet HOMER N
&gt; 8 Ken HOYLE N
&gt; 9 John LAIRD N
&gt; 10 Kev NURSE N
&gt; 11 Dave ROBINSON N
&gt; 12 Judy DAVIES N
&gt; 13 Simon IRELAND S
&gt; 14 Mark MYERS S
&gt; 15 Crispin ROCHE S
&gt; 16 Russ TIZARD S
&gt; 17 Malcolm WADSWORTH S
&gt;
&gt; All have expressed interest in going to the USG 2007 North/South Annual
&gt; Bash, at Forest of Arden, Sunday 29th April to Monday 30th April. (Please
&gt; let me have corrected name spellings and intended allegiances if
&gt; applicable.)
&gt;
&gt; There still seems to be a number of notable South team members who I hope
&gt; will be interested in joining in. I think the ideal stopping point/target
&gt; is 24 players plus a couple of reserves in case the proverbial bus comes
&gt; along but this goal is looking a bit tight at the moment.
&gt;
&gt; I'm away from my computer from early Wednesday and shall return from part
&gt; two of my May tour Monday next having taken in Shiskine (Arran,
&gt; <a href="http://www.shiskinegolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.shiskinegolf.com/</a>) and Machrihanish (Kintyre,
&gt; <a href="http://www.machgolf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.machgolf.com/</a>). I am taking plenty of balls, jumpers and spare
&gt; pairs of socks but no computer and no mobile. My desolation will be
&gt; accompanied by the flavours of peat, oak, liquorice and fresh sea air.
&gt;
&gt; Hopefully on my return, I shall still have a business to come to and
&gt; another half dozen or so more intending campers for our Annual Bash.
&gt;
&gt; Wish you were here!
&gt; --
&gt; Demetri (Durram)

Seems you ignored my earlier post. I shall be there, if only to stand guard
over the piece of brass currently in my bookcase.

John T

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#45: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-30 23:46:20 by Paul Schmitz-Josten

mike short in &lt;2oZeg.234615$<a href="mailto:tc.57670&#64;fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">tc.57670&#64;fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;:

&gt;Forest of Arden is almost within walking distance of Birmingham airport

ACK. But:
Budget connections from Nuremberg seem to exist only via Stansted and
Dublin. Note: Not &quot;or&quot; but &quot;and&quot; - a double commutation which I'd like to
avoid.

As of today the best route seems to be a car rental from Stansted
or Manchester, East Midlands still to be checked.

Ciao,

Paul

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#46: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-31 00:18:52 by I like toys and cake

John Turner wrote:

&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Seems you ignored my earlier post. I shall be there, if only to stand guard
&gt; over the piece of brass currently in my bookcase.
&gt;
&gt; John T
&gt;
&gt;
the wonders of technology! According to my server your previous last
post was on 26/4, John - no doubt I've missed numerous missives!

I've added you to the list.

D

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#47: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-31 00:32:06 by I like toys and cake

Paul Schmitz-Josten wrote:

&gt; mike short in &lt;2oZeg.234615$<a href="mailto:tc.57670&#64;fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">tc.57670&#64;fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Forest of Arden is almost within walking distance of Birmingham airport
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; ACK. But:
&gt; Budget connections from Nuremberg seem to exist only via Stansted and
&gt; Dublin. Note: Not &quot;or&quot; but &quot;and&quot; - a double commutation which I'd like to
&gt; avoid.
&gt;
&gt; As of today the best route seems to be a car rental from Stansted
&gt; or Manchester, East Midlands still to be checked.
&gt;
&gt; Ciao,
&gt;
&gt; Paul

God help us if you win! We'll all be travelling by bus over to Germany :-)

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#48: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-31 09:53:42 by John Laird

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; John Turner wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Seems you ignored my earlier post. I shall be there, if only to stand guard
&gt; &gt; over the piece of brass currently in my bookcase.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; the wonders of technology! According to my server your previous last
&gt; post was on 26/4, John - no doubt I've missed numerous missives!

Google Groups concurs with you. But then John did work in IT :-)

--
John

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#49: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-05-31 13:09:06 by Paul Schmitz-Josten

Demetri (Durram) in &lt;e5ih56$e9f$1$<a href="mailto:8300dec7&#64;news.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">8300dec7&#64;news.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;:

(Travel issue)
&gt;God help us if you win! We'll all be travelling by bus over to Germany :-)

That's only fair!

&lt;secret note on how to spoil a tradition&gt;
I'll chose a course in the Upper Paladian Forest near the Czech border
and - if all other participants fail to comply with rule 6-3 a) - claim
both trophies for Germany...
&lt;/&gt;

Ciao,

Paul

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#50: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-02 01:28:30 by newbryford

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; Hi Paul,
&gt;
&gt; I understand your travel considerations but have included you on the
&gt; 'Interested' list as I am sure you will be able to resolve them by maybe
&gt; using the USG 2007 bash as an excuse for a short holiday in the area -
&gt; whatever!
&gt;


&gt; Updated 'Interested' list as follows:
&gt;


Plus me!

Wherever, whatever. Outside of May is looking good as my wife is
threatening a trip to Portugal mid/early May 2007.

As long as you give me the correct spelling for the shirts..........

Dunno if Nick W and Dave S are in - I can't remember if they are away
for a while.

Mind you, Nick's probably given up on usenet!

Cheers,
Mick
p.s. Maybe Paul can get a &quot;budget&quot; airline to somewhere in the UK and
cadge a lift from a nearby uk.s.g attendee?

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Posted on 2006-06-02 11:10:19 by Paul Schmitz-Josten

newbryford in &lt;<a href="mailto:1149204510.868577.236420&#64;h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1149204510.868577.236420&#64;h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com</a>&gt;:

&gt;p.s. Maybe Paul can get a &quot;budget&quot; airline to somewhere in the UK and
&gt;cadge a lift from a nearby uk.s.g attendee?

Not yet, but coming up soon. Air Berlin offer connections from Nuremberg
to Stansted up to March 29, 2007 now. I'll be checking the homepage weekly
to see when they get to April...

Ryanair's airports in Germany are &gt;200 km away so they are no real
alternative.

Anyway, now I'm sure I'll get an affordable transportation as soon as it
appears on the screen, and we'll manage to bring me to FoA somehow.
Maybe I rent a car and spend some more holidays in Britain.
My wife always wanted to see Cornwall...

Count me in as a definite participant, Demetri!

Ciao,

Paul

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Posted on 2006-06-02 11:31:53 by Malcolm Wadsworth

&quot;newbryford&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mick&#64;newbryford.freeserve.co.uk" target="_blank">mick&#64;newbryford.freeserve.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt;
&gt; Plus me!
&gt;
&gt; Wherever, whatever. Outside of May is looking good as my wife is
&gt; threatening a trip to Portugal mid/early May 2007.
&gt;
&gt; As long as you give me the correct spelling for the shirts..........
&gt;
&gt; Dunno if Nick W and Dave S are in - I can't remember if they are away
&gt; for a while.
&gt;
&gt; Mind you, Nick's probably given up on usenet!
&gt;
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; Mick
&gt; p.s. Maybe Paul can get a &quot;budget&quot; airline to somewhere in the UK and
&gt; cadge a lift from a nearby uk.s.g attendee?
&gt;

Your prompt concerning Nick W and Dave S who have so far been silent, brings
to mind a few other names I don't think we have heard from for a while.
I would much hope that Maggie Barkwith, Sam Smale, Richard Brown, John
Stokes, Melvyn Buckpitt and Michael Nadasdy to name but a few, might be up
for it again.
Can anyone think of others who may need prompting if we have their
addresses?

Regards
Malcolm

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#53: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-02 22:41:09 by newbryford

Malcolm Wadsworth wrote:

&gt;
&gt; Your prompt concerning Nick W and Dave S who have so far been silent, brings
&gt; to mind a few other names I don't think we have heard from for a while.
&gt; I would much hope that Maggie Barkwith, Sam Smale, Richard Brown, John
&gt; Stokes, Melvyn Buckpitt and Michael Nadasdy to name but a few, might be up
&gt; for it again.
&gt; Can anyone think of others who may need prompting if we have their
&gt; addresses?
&gt;
&gt; Regards
&gt; Malcolm

Philip Bain, Ian Clark.

Cheers,
Mick

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Posted on 2006-06-03 04:14:20 by Andy Neal

&quot;newbryford&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mick&#64;newbryford.freeserve.co.uk" target="_blank">mick&#64;newbryford.freeserve.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;
&gt; Malcolm Wadsworth wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Your prompt concerning Nick W and Dave S who have so far been silent,
&gt;&gt; brings
&gt;&gt; to mind a few other names I don't think we have heard from for a while.
&gt;&gt; I would much hope that Maggie Barkwith, Sam Smale, Richard Brown, John
&gt;&gt; Stokes, Melvyn Buckpitt and Michael Nadasdy to name but a few, might be
&gt;&gt; up
&gt;&gt; for it again.
&gt;&gt; Can anyone think of others who may need prompting if we have their
&gt;&gt; addresses?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Regards
&gt;&gt; Malcolm
&gt;
&gt; Philip Bain, Ian Clark.
&gt;
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; Mick

Andy Neal....if ever I win the lottery and can get over the pond at will!!!

Andy Neal
Please remove the GREENCARD when you reply

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#55: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-03 12:17:54 by John Laird

Malcolm Wadsworth wrote:

&gt; Your prompt concerning Nick W and Dave S who have so far been silent, brings
&gt; to mind a few other names I don't think we have heard from for a while.
&gt; I would much hope that Maggie Barkwith, Sam Smale, Richard Brown, John
&gt; Stokes, Melvyn Buckpitt and Michael Nadasdy to name but a few, might be up
&gt; for it again.
&gt; Can anyone think of others who may need prompting if we have their
&gt; addresses?

Alan Cornick was unable to make it this year, but I seem to recall he
indicated he would like to attend again.

Andy Moore is a busy man, having collected a new partner, baby, job,
house, etc.

I did make brief contact with a real blast from the past not long
before HP 2005, but he had prior commitments. I've not heard any more
since. Imagine the looks on everyone's faces had I managed to get
Peter A-B along !

You never know, we may entice JPW back one day...

--
John

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Posted on 2006-06-03 12:53:20 by John Laird

Andy Neal wrote:
&gt;
&gt; ...if ever I win the lottery and can get over the pond at will!!!

The way things are going here, I think you did effectively win the
lottery when you moved to the US.

--
John

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Posted on 2006-06-03 18:32:28 by Alan Murphy

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&gt; I did make brief contact with a real blast from the past not long
&gt; before HP 2005, but he had prior commitments. I've not heard any more
&gt; since. Imagine the looks on everyone's faces had I managed to get
&gt; Peter A-B along !
&gt;
&gt; You never know, we may entice JPW back one day...
&gt; --
&gt; John
&gt;
&quot;Postman Pat, Postman Pat&quot;
&quot;There may be trouble ahead&quot;

Alan

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#58: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-03 20:18:51 by ac.general

John Laird wrote:
&gt; Malcolm Wadsworth wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Your prompt concerning Nick W and Dave S who have so far been silent, brings
&gt; &gt; to mind a few other names I don't think we have heard from for a while.
&gt; &gt; I would much hope that Maggie Barkwith, Sam Smale, Richard Brown, John
&gt; &gt; Stokes, Melvyn Buckpitt and Michael Nadasdy to name but a few, might be up
&gt; &gt; for it again.
&gt; &gt; Can anyone think of others who may need prompting if we have their
&gt; &gt; addresses?
&gt;
&gt; Alan Cornick was unable to make it this year, but I seem to recall he
&gt; indicated he would like to attend again.
&gt;
&gt; Andy Moore is a busy man, having collected a new partner, baby, job,
&gt; house, etc.
&gt;
&gt; I did make brief contact with a real blast from the past not long
&gt; before HP 2005, but he had prior commitments. I've not heard any more
&gt; since. Imagine the looks on everyone's faces had I managed to get
&gt; Peter A-B along !
&gt;
&gt; You never know, we may entice JPW back one day...
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; John

Hi All,
I would love to play next year...especially at FoA. I will
be, subject to election, captain at my club next year so I will be very
busy. I have been checking the schedule for next year and it is looking
clear at the moment. So please put me down as a &quot;probable&quot;...playing
for the South of course!!

AlanC

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Posted on 2006-06-03 22:43:39 by John Laird

<a href="mailto:ac.general&#64;ntlworld.com" target="_blank">ac.general&#64;ntlworld.com</a> wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Hi All,
&gt; I would love to play next year...especially at FoA. I will
&gt; be, subject to election, captain at my club next year so I will be very
&gt; busy. I have been checking the schedule for next year and it is looking
&gt; clear at the moment. So please put me down as a &quot;probable&quot;...playing
&gt; for the South of course!!

Congratulations !

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John

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#60: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-03 23:57:41 by MaggieB

I would be up for joining you all again but it's a little early to commit to
2007.
Peter A-B - now there's a blast from the past!!!!
MaggieB



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&gt; Malcolm Wadsworth wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Your prompt concerning Nick W and Dave S who have so far been silent,
brings
&gt; &gt; to mind a few other names I don't think we have heard from for a while.
&gt; &gt; I would much hope that Maggie Barkwith, Sam Smale, Richard Brown, John
&gt; &gt; Stokes, Melvyn Buckpitt and Michael Nadasdy to name but a few, might be
up
&gt; &gt; for it again.
&gt; &gt; Can anyone think of others who may need prompting if we have their
&gt; &gt; addresses?
&gt;
&gt; Alan Cornick was unable to make it this year, but I seem to recall he
&gt; indicated he would like to attend again.
&gt;
&gt; Andy Moore is a busy man, having collected a new partner, baby, job,
&gt; house, etc.
&gt;
&gt; I did make brief contact with a real blast from the past not long
&gt; before HP 2005, but he had prior commitments. I've not heard any more
&gt; since. Imagine the looks on everyone's faces had I managed to get
&gt; Peter A-B along !
&gt;
&gt; You never know, we may entice JPW back one day...
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; John
&gt;

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#61: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-05 16:38:27 by Paul Schmitz-Josten

Demetri (Durram) in &lt;e5hu4n$l3a$1$<a href="mailto:8300dec7&#64;news.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">8300dec7&#64;news.demon.co.uk</a>&gt;:

&gt;I understand your travel considerations but have included you on the
&gt;'Interested' list as I am sure you will be able to resolve them by maybe
&gt;using the USG 2007 bash as an excuse for a short holiday in the area -
&gt;whatever!

I convinced my lady to join me - not for golf but for sightseeing, though.

&gt;As you have now taken over from me as having the longest surname and I
&gt;have had to widen my spreadsheet you are more than welcome :-)

I give you a late but cordial &quot;thank you&quot;, Demetri!

Would you please send me an email just to get the contact going?

<a href="mailto:alossola&#64;web.de" target="_blank">alossola&#64;web.de</a> is working but usually it doesn't have my full attention,
being a spam contaminated usenet account. I want to give you a better
address by PM.

Ciao,

Paul

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#62: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-06 12:25:06 by Benway

On Tue, 30 May 2006 11:03:31 +0100, Demetri (Durram) wrote:

&gt; Hi Campers!
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for the responses so far, according to my reading and
&gt; interpretation we have the following making up the happy band.
&gt;
&gt; 1 David AMOS N
&gt; 2 Chris BOOTH N
&gt; 3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
&gt; 4 John GIBB N
&gt; 5 John HALLAS N
&gt; 6 Chris HOMER N
&gt; 7 Janet HOMER N
&gt; 8 Ken HOYLE N
&gt; 9 John LAIRD N
&gt; 10 Kev NURSE N
&gt; 11 Dave ROBINSON N
&gt; 12 Judy DAVIES N
&gt; 13 Simon IRELAND S
&gt; 14 Mark MYERS S
&gt; 15 Crispin ROCHE S
&gt; 16 Russ TIZARD S
&gt; 17 Malcolm WADSWORTH S
&gt;
&gt; All have expressed interest in going to the USG 2007 North/South Annual
&gt; Bash, at Forest of Arden, Sunday 29th April to Monday 30th April.
&gt; (Please let me have corrected name spellings and intended allegiances if
&gt; applicable.)
&gt;


Demetri,

I'd like to declare my interest in signing up for the southerners if there
is still space.

First timer and would enjoy a competitive round at the FoA.

Cheers
Carl
Lawton

AKA Benway

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#63: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-06 13:27:33 by Davie

Demetri - &quot;Benway&quot; was someone called Carl Lawton (a first timer)

Alan Cornick has joined up with us previously and posts under his own name I
think

Dave

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#64: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-06 14:48:57 by John Laird

Dave Robinson wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Demetri - &quot;Benway&quot; was someone called Carl Lawton (a first timer)
&gt;
&gt; Alan Cornick has joined up with us previously and posts under his own name I
&gt; think

Quite correct. Johnty is John Hutchinson, and not a lot of people know
that...

You can tell Demetri is still full of single malt. What is an
&quot;interestee&quot; when it's at home ?

--
John

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#65: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-06 15:57:39 by I like toys and cake

The current list of interested campers is shown below.

When I get a moment after catching up on some work I'll do something
with it! I am still awaiting confirmation of some details from the Hotel
but will post any news or further developments.

As for numbers, not all those below are 'definite' so the more we have
to go at the better the chances of getting a good grouping together so
IF THERE ANY MORE INTERESTEES please indicate by posting in this thread.

Ta!

1 Chris BOOTH N
2 Demetri DOURAMBEIS N
3 John GIBB N
4 John GIBB Jnr N
5 John HALLAS N
6 Ken HOYLE N
7 John LAIRD N
8 Dave ROBINSON N
9 John TURNER N
10 Chris HOMER N
11 Janet HOMER N
12 Kev NURSE N
13 Judy ROBINSON N
14 Bill SEDDON N
15 Johnty N
16 David AMOS N
17 Simon IRELAND S
18 Mark MYERS S
19 Crispin ROCHE S
20 Paul SCHMITZ-JOSTEN S
21 Malcolm WADSWORTH S
22 Alan CORNICK S
23 Carl LAWTON (benway) S
24 Don LILLEY S
25 Mike SHORT S
26 Russ TIZARD S
27 Maggie BARKWITH S


PS. Links golfing in Scotland last week was great. Weather totally out
of character and all the jumpers, brollies spare hats and rain tops were
redundant.

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#66: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-06 16:16:02 by I like toys and cake

John Laird wrote:

&gt; Dave Robinson wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Demetri - &quot;Benway&quot; was someone called Carl Lawton (a first timer)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Alan Cornick has joined up with us previously and posts under his own name I
&gt;&gt;think
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Quite correct. Johnty is John Hutchinson, and not a lot of people know
&gt; that...
&gt;
&gt; You can tell Demetri is still full of single malt. What is an
&gt; &quot;interestee&quot; when it's at home ?
&gt;

Whoops on a couple of names in the previous list of 'interestees' :-)

I think this is more correct:

1 Chris BOOTH (wheis mi ball) N
2 Mick BRYAN (newbryford) N
3 Demetri DOURAMBEIS (Durram) N
4 John GIBB (JayGee) N
5 John GIBB Jnr (Junior) N
6 John HALLAS (John H) N
7 Ken HOYLE (marush) N
8 John LAIRD (Lairdy) N
9 Dave ROBINSON N
10 John TURNER (John T) N
11 Chris HOMER (Hickory) N
12 Janet HOMER N
13 John HUTCHINSON (johnty) N
14 Kev NURSE N
15 Judy ROBINSON N
16 Bill SEDDON N
17 David AMOS N
18 Simon IRELAND S
19 Mark MYERS S
20 Crispin ROCHE S
21 Paul SCHMITZ-JOSTEN S
22 Malcolm WADSWORTH S
23 Alan CORNICK S
24 Carl LAWTON (benway) S
25 Don LILLEY S
26 Mike SHORT S
27 Russ TIZARD S
28 Maggie BARKWITH S

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#67: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-06 18:59:01 by Me

John Laird wrote:
&gt; Dave Robinson wrote:
&gt;&gt; Demetri - &quot;Benway&quot; was someone called Carl Lawton (a first timer)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Alan Cornick has joined up with us previously and posts under his own name I
&gt;&gt; think
&gt;
&gt; Quite correct. Johnty is John Hutchinson, and not a lot of people know
&gt; that...
&gt;
&gt; You can tell Demetri is still full of single malt. What is an
&gt; &quot;interestee&quot; when it's at home ?
&gt;

Thanks for the corrections, chaps I need someone on my tail or else we
WILL end up at Forest of Dean!

--
Demetri

&lt;hic&gt;
Now, about the single malts (OT)! Those sampled were the Arran Calvados
Casked, which was very nice if not a bit sweet though you would not
describe it as a liqueur; the Arran 10 year which again was extremely
smooth and clean and my favourite of the week. Neither of these two had
the extreme heavy peatiness I expected though the water hazards on
Shiskine golf course were stained brown with the stuff. Apart from those
only a couple of Macallans came my way but very enjoyable combined with
a couple of French Bordeaux reds for a change, a very pleasant South
African Chenin Blanc to go with the turbot one evening; pints of
gorgeous 80/-, Boddingtons and bizarrely Budwar on draught, though the
Guinness was uninspiring according to reports. Please note this was over
five days!
&lt;/hic&gt;

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#68: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-07 13:36:04 by Santa

Demetri (Durram) wrote:

&gt; &lt;hic&gt;
&gt; Now, about the single malts (OT)! Those sampled were the Arran Calvados
&gt; Casked, which was very nice if not a bit sweet though you would not
&gt; describe it as a liqueur; the Arran 10 year which again was extremely
&gt; smooth and clean and my favourite of the week. Neither of these two had
&gt; the extreme heavy peatiness I expected though the water hazards on
&gt; Shiskine golf course were stained brown with the stuff. Apart from those
&gt; only a couple of Macallans came my way but very enjoyable combined with
&gt; a couple of French Bordeaux reds for a change, a very pleasant South
&gt; African Chenin Blanc to go with the turbot one evening; pints of
&gt; gorgeous 80/-, Boddingtons and bizarrely Budwar on draught, though the
&gt; Guinness was uninspiring according to reports. Please note this was over
&gt; five days!
&gt; &lt;/hic&gt;

Glad to see you haven't lost your touch or slowed down any, Demitri.
:-)

David

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#69: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-07 13:58:04 by John Laird

David Sneddon wrote:
&gt; Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; &lt;hic&gt;
&gt; &gt; Now, about the single malts (OT)! Those sampled were the Arran Calvados
&gt; &gt; Casked, which was very nice if not a bit sweet though you would not
&gt; &gt; describe it as a liqueur; the Arran 10 year which again was extremely
&gt; &gt; smooth and clean and my favourite of the week. Neither of these two had
&gt; &gt; the extreme heavy peatiness I expected though the water hazards on
&gt; &gt; Shiskine golf course were stained brown with the stuff. Apart from those
&gt; &gt; only a couple of Macallans came my way but very enjoyable combined with
&gt; &gt; a couple of French Bordeaux reds for a change, a very pleasant South
&gt; &gt; African Chenin Blanc to go with the turbot one evening; pints of
&gt; &gt; gorgeous 80/-, Boddingtons and bizarrely Budwar on draught, though the
&gt; &gt; Guinness was uninspiring according to reports. Please note this was over
&gt; &gt; five days!
&gt; &gt; &lt;/hic&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Glad to see you haven't lost your touch or slowed down any, Demitri.
&gt; :-)

Quite !

Interestingly, I'm sure I read something recently about tasting, where
it was said that there actually isn't a taste or aroma that is &quot;peaty&quot;.
I believe it's actually smokey. But then, I may need to try a few
more wee drams to be sure...

--
John

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#70: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-07 14:29:57 by Santa

John Laird wrote:
&gt; David Sneddon wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;hic&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Now, about the single malts (OT)! Those sampled were the Arran Calvados
&gt;&gt;&gt;Casked, which was very nice if not a bit sweet though you would not
&gt;&gt;&gt;describe it as a liqueur; the Arran 10 year which again was extremely
&gt;&gt;&gt;smooth and clean and my favourite of the week. Neither of these two had
&gt;&gt;&gt;the extreme heavy peatiness I expected though the water hazards on
&gt;&gt;&gt;Shiskine golf course were stained brown with the stuff. Apart from those
&gt;&gt;&gt;only a couple of Macallans came my way but very enjoyable combined with
&gt;&gt;&gt;a couple of French Bordeaux reds for a change, a very pleasant South
&gt;&gt;&gt;African Chenin Blanc to go with the turbot one evening; pints of
&gt;&gt;&gt;gorgeous 80/-, Boddingtons and bizarrely Budwar on draught, though the
&gt;&gt;&gt;Guinness was uninspiring according to reports. Please note this was over
&gt;&gt;&gt;five days!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;/hic&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Glad to see you haven't lost your touch or slowed down any, Demitri.
&gt;&gt;:-)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Quite !
&gt;
&gt; Interestingly, I'm sure I read something recently about tasting, where
&gt; it was said that there actually isn't a taste or aroma that is &quot;peaty&quot;.
&gt; I believe it's actually smokey. But then, I may need to try a few
&gt; more wee drams to be sure...
&gt;

Stick with your research, John.

David

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#71: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-07 18:20:41 by Me

David Sneddon wrote:
&gt; John Laird wrote:
&gt;&gt; David Sneddon wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;hic&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Now, about the single malts (OT)! Those sampled were the Arran Calvados
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Casked, which was very nice if not a bit sweet though you would not
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; describe it as a liqueur; the Arran 10 year which again was extremely
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; smooth and clean and my favourite of the week. Neither of these two had
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the extreme heavy peatiness I expected though the water hazards on
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Shiskine golf course were stained brown with the stuff. Apart from
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; those
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; only a couple of Macallans came my way but very enjoyable combined with
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a couple of French Bordeaux reds for a change, a very pleasant South
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; African Chenin Blanc to go with the turbot one evening; pints of
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; gorgeous 80/-, Boddingtons and bizarrely Budwar on draught, though the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Guinness was uninspiring according to reports. Please note this was
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; over
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; five days!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;/hic&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Glad to see you haven't lost your touch or slowed down any, Demitri.
&gt;&gt;&gt; :-)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Quite !
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Interestingly, I'm sure I read something recently about tasting, where
&gt;&gt; it was said that there actually isn't a taste or aroma that is &quot;peaty&quot;.
&gt;&gt; I believe it's actually smokey. But then, I may need to try a few
&gt;&gt; more wee drams to be sure...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Stick with your research, John.
&gt;
&gt; David

There's no smoke allowed in Scotland these days - it's all gone to peat!!

--
D

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#72: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-11 11:21:09 by rdbrown

Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt; The current list of interested campers is shown below.
&gt;
&gt; Big Snip

Hi Demetri,

I have been away from golf for while, and only played on Friday for the
first time since Aldwickbury. I would like to add my name to the list
as I keep forgetting to check in here, I am more than happy to go onto
the reserve list if you are oversubscribed though.

Richard

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#73: Re: USG 2007 North/South Annual Bash

Posted on 2006-06-13 10:03:30 by Me

<a href="mailto:rdbrown&#64;stronzo.fsnet.co.uk" target="_blank">rdbrown&#64;stronzo.fsnet.co.uk</a> wrote:
&gt; Demetri (Durram) wrote:
&gt;&gt; The current list of interested campers is shown below.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Big Snip
&gt;
&gt; Hi Demetri,
&gt;
&gt; I have been away from golf for while, and only played on Friday for the
&gt; first time since Aldwickbury. I would like to add my name to the list
&gt; as I keep forgetting to check in here, I am more than happy to go onto
&gt; the reserve list if you are oversubscribed though.
&gt;
&gt; Richard
&gt;

Strange, I thought you played at Hawkstone :-)

Your name is on the list.

At the moment these are just preliminary soundings and a further
commitment will be invited from the prospective campers soon when I have
finalised details of the offer we can get from the venue.
--
Demetri

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