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Fri, 21 July 2006 05:58 |
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I am on vacation, and have too much time on my hands, s=E5 here's some
thoughts about Swedish football.
About the Sweden team; the present plan is built on not losing. I am
certain that eventually it will lead to a WC win, once every 64 cups or
so. A problem is that many fans haven't got the patience to wait some
250 years. Another problem is that this approach will be good for one
cup, but it is my firm belief that a prolonged spell of this type of
football will be damaging. Lagerb=E4ck says that it is crucial to have a
plan. Yes, it is; but there is but a small step from plan to rigidity.
Personally I can compare with many of my go-matches. Once I thought I
played a lot of matches, but what I really did was playing the same
match, over and over again.
On Swedish arena names; someone asked last year. Hrrm, I was too busy
*embarassed* Anders said that the quite common second part "valla" or
"vallen" refers to a man made structure. However, there is another
meaning to the word, namely grass field, for fodder and such. I am
pretty certain that it is this second meaning that has spilled over to
football pitches.
This meaning turns V=E5ngavallen, homeground for Trelleborgs FF, into a
comical name, because v=E5ng means field, and thus, V=E5ngavallen means,
the fieldfield. Btw, v=E5ng might possibly exist in some English
dialects, and mean about the same. I know I've seen it in old English
neorxnawong (paradise).
To me the best nordic arena names are Ullevi and Ullev=E5l. Ull was god
over the hunt and over duels. Vi means holy place. Actually I can't
imagine a better name for an arena =3D)
Arenas then: Anders showed you links to a new arena in Stockholm.
Here's links to one in Gothenburg and one in Malm=F6. It is essential to
have new arenas, for the same reasons that Sven Mischkies mentioned.
For example, Gamla Ullevi is mainly an arena from 1938. There is not
enough of anything there, and no sane woman would visit it with her
kids.
http://tinyurl.com/hj8xp
The one in Gothenburg will probably be pretty small. This is a good
thing, because Nya Ullevi is simply too big. Money in itself is no
problem. Gothenburg is one of the 10 most expansive regions in Europe
and it has a lot of money. Football fans only have to show that there
is a need, and if it turns out that the new arena was too small, then
the city can easily build a new one.
http://sydsvenskan.se/system/topicRoot/Malm_s_nya_stadion/
I don't know much about the arena in Malm=F6, but I am certain it will
be quite a nice place for football.
On the constant debacles of Swedish teams; it is obvious that Swedish
teams have to increase turnover. Bosman has more or less killed the
strength of the teams, and there is only one way to come back. The
reasons as to why Swedish teams work with so small an amount of money,
is political. In reality nothing says that one of the richest nations
in the world shouldn't be able to support 2-3 teams like PSV, Celtic,
or Ajax. Just look at sponsors for example, Volvo, IKEA and Ericsson
all have a lot of money. One problem here is that the law says that
clubs still can't be companies. Instead we have companies that have
"interests" in the clubs. It is a cumbersome and silly system. Oh, yes
it all means we will have to pay more for our footy, but as it is
today, it is too cheap. I mean, I think it is more expensive to see
Nuneaton Borough F.C., than it is to see IFK G=F6teborg.
Here's a link to the current standings in the league. Scroll down.
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=3D21527&lid=3Dmenu
The team in best form is Kalmar FF. They have 12 straight wins. All the
same, noone believes they will win.
The profiles are mostly has beens =3D) If your daddy was good at
football, there is a chance you will find him playing in allsvenskan.
Jari Litmanen does, Henrik Larsson does and Niklas Alexandersson does.
The frightening thing is that Niklas is quite possibly the best player,
but I suspect that the other old farts will soon challenge him.
One team I want to mention is GAIS. Anders mentioned them some two
years ago when Roland Nilsson became their coach. As I think we both
guessed, Roland was able to take them to allsvenskan. The team is an
intriguing blend of Swedes, Jamaicans, Englishmen, and Nigerians (and
what not =3D)) Increasingly the teams look like that. It is a natural
result of open borders, and quite a lot more fun than a plain
meatballs-team.
I mentioned some IFK G=F6teborg players some years ago. They are now
playing for the first-team, or on the verge of making it. Andres
Vasquez is a regular at 19 and might very well be something for the
Sweden team. Pontus Wernbloom is another young player. He eats H=E5kan
Mild for breakfast, and has already gotten som reds for insane
challenges. I wouldn't be surprised if he will go to a British club.
Well, time to do something else.
/Marcus
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| Re: Some Swedish footy [message #1088612 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 09:59 |
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| Re: Some Swedish footy [message #1088620 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 12:22 |
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:59:23 +0200, anders t
<anthu_001 [at] No€SPaM€_hotmail.com> wrote:
>OTOH, it -was- supposed that certain Swedish stars with spetzkompetenz were
>to step up and win the games for us. I'm thinking mostly of Zlatan, but
>also of Henke, although Zlatan is the bigger choker in my eyes. Three
>majors now and what has he done in those, except effectively throwing Italy
>out of EC2004?
I told you before the world cup it wasn't happening because you have
too many guys in your team who hate each other. It was never going to
work. It's like Holland in the 80s and early 90s, lots of class but a
camp that's divided. Never would have expected that of the Swedes, but
then I wouldn't have expected it of Holland either.
You had to admit that Sweden's form leading up to the cup was
ordinary. They were losing to teams they should have beaten. As much
as we all like to abide by the rule "it's only a goddamned friendly"
when it happens so often and so consistently it's pointing to
problems. We don't necessarily know what they were, Swedes don't talk
about that shit usually, but the occasional training ground bust-up
where the photographers can actually be bothered to turn up (because
it's NOT a friendly) is not a good sign.
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"It's not rocket surgery"!!!
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Overheard as a football coach berates his losing players.
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