| Re: Siegel and the IPT final. [message #1073376] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 20:54 |
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Bob Johnson wrote:
> Chances are the cue he uses is a Sigel. Don't forget who he was playing.
> I'm no big fan of Sigel, however he's been retired for years. You'll notice
> most of the HofF'rs looked a bit out of stroke compared to Archer, Marvelous
> Marlon, Francisco, and Efren.
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> --
> Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
> bobj [at] cris.com
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> <robert.nicholson [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1152485844.999669.253660 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > Firstly what kind of cue is he playing with it sounds terrible but
> > what's with his stroke. This guy looks like an amateur when he's
> > playing. Jumps on , waves the cue whenever he makes his shot.
> >
Don't get me wrong, I like Mike. I know he is a showboat and trying to
boost ratings for the IPT and himself. But he shot terrible for someone
who bragged about teaching 8 ball and him being a pro. I also
understand that ball selection/pattern CAN be a personal choice, but I
only remember him shooting one safety. Granted when he got to the table
in the first match he didn't have much, but that is when you think
safety, he didn't think hard enough.
I even saw Efren make one or two Novice 8 ball mistakes which took away
2 options he could have had.
Again, I couldn't beat either of these guys because they are great
shooters and make the hard shots. But I have to call them the way I see
them.
Hank <~~~critic wannabe
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| Re: Siegel and the IPT final. [message #1073449 ] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 23:09 |
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I think Efren's abilities are so much higher that he sees and goes for
runnouts we wouldn't even consider. A guy like him doesn't care about safes.
He knows he can runnout anything.
Ed
Dan White <dwhite300 [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5s-dnXhIhafmUi_ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> <ninebal310 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152557654.251308.135210 [at] b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> True, but Sigel MAY be the greatest living 14.1 player (in his prime).
Even
> if your skills deteriorate from lack of use, I don't think you lose a
sense
> of the best patterns. You certainly wouldn't lose the ability to find the
> best way to run 8 balls.
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> dwhite
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| Re: Siegel and the IPT final. [message #1073458 ] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 01:40 |
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Weren't we talking about Sigel and safes?
dwhite
"Ed McCune" <mccunenospam [at] telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:ysUsg.104618$I61.74525 [at] clgrps13...
> I think Efren's abilities are so much higher that he sees and goes for
> runnouts we wouldn't even consider. A guy like him doesn't care about
safes.
> He knows he can runnout anything.
>
> Ed
> Dan White <dwhite300 [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5s-dnXhIhafmUi_ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> > <ninebal310 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1152557654.251308.135210 [at] b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > True, but Sigel MAY be the greatest living 14.1 player (in his prime).
> Even
> > if your skills deteriorate from lack of use, I don't think you lose a
> sense
> > of the best patterns. You certainly wouldn't lose the ability to find
the
> > best way to run 8 balls.
> >
> > dwhite
> >
> >
> >
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| Re: Siegel and the IPT final. [message #1073469 ] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 07:41 |
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Mere moments before death, Dan White hastily scrawled:
>"Ed McCune" <mccunenospam [at] telusplanet.net> wrote in message
>news:ysUsg.104618$I61.74525 [at] clgrps13...
>> I think Efren's abilities are so much higher that he sees and goes for
>> runnouts we wouldn't even consider. A guy like him doesn't care about
>> safes. He knows he can runnout anything.
>>
>>
>
>Weren't we talking about Sigel and safes?
>
That's funny, because when I first read about this (I'm unable to
watch, no OLN here), I thought Sigel was probably thinking the same
thing about Efren. He was probably playing too aggressively because
he felt he couldn't safe Efren.
Ed Chauvin IV
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| Re: Siegel and the IPT final. [message #1073495 ] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 21:43 |
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> That's funny, because when I first read about this (I'm unable to
> watch, no OLN here), I thought Sigel was probably thinking the same
> thing about Efren. He was probably playing too aggressively because
> he felt he couldn't safe Efren.
Surely you guys don't seriously think that? ANYONE can be safed, anyone.
Hell, even leaving a bloke a kick is better than selling out, every time.
I find it more feasible that they agreed to split the prize money before
hand and just went out and fired away, all guns blazing to make it
"exciting" for un-educated viewers.
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