| LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073314] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 23:42 |
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It has been a while since I have seen this subject discussed and I was
wondering what the current and most recent consensus is of having Lasik eye
surgery. I think my vision may be finally be taking a dip. I noticed a
1/16" ghost on top of the cue ball and some of the other balls and I notice
that I am straining to read some of the copy that I know I shouldn't be
straining to read. An eye exam is in order and since my wife just took a
job at the local hospital we will have primo health benefits. I've been
blessed with 20/15 visions most of my life and have never seen an eye
doctor. My son had Lasik eye surgery and is totally happy with the results.
I am interested in knowing how some of you senior citizens view LASIK now
with all of the new technology coming down the pike.
Why wouldn't you get LASIK surgery to improve your vision?
Thanks,
JoeyA
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073315 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 01:33 |
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JoeyA wrote:
> Why wouldn't you get LASIK surgery to improve your vision?
1=2E Costs an average of $1350 per eye, and most insurers don't cover it.
Check with you wife's hospital plan before you count on it.
2=2E Patient satisfaction ratings aren't all that high, as of 2003:
http://www.lasikinstitute.org/Newsroom_qualityoflifeimproved .htm
"Of the approximately 3 million Americans who underwent laser eye
surgery since 1995, more than 85 percent said the surgery improved
their overall quality of life and 93 percent of patients said they were
satisfied with the results."
So 15 percent didn't agree that lasik improved their overall quality of
life, and 7 percent didn't say they were satisfied with its results.
Those aren't the kind of odds on which I'd care to bet my money or my
eyes.
Also, lasik doesn't seem to improve many people's sports performance:
" Among the benefits of the procedure, respondents cited improvement in
several specific aspects of vision, daily living and everyday
activities, including:
"=B7 Ability to see upon waking (seeing an alarm clock) (89%)
=B7 Freedom from glasses and contacts (83%)
=B7 Improvement in personal safety (69%)
=B7 Increased confidence in personal appearance (65%)
=B7 Better participation in sports or fitness activities (54%)"
3=2E I'm real squeamish about messing with my eyes. I wear glasses, not
contacts.
Overall, I think lasik is best for people with serious visual
deterioration. If you're just beginning to lose some of that 20/15, I
don't think you'll get enough benefit for your money. Get some glasses
or contacts until your eyes start to go really bad.
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073317 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 02:23 |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:42:17 -0500, "JoeyA" <joey [at] katrina.com> wrote:
>It has been a while since I have seen this subject discussed and I was
>wondering what the current and most recent consensus is of having Lasik eye
>surgery. I think my vision may be finally be taking a dip. I noticed a
>1/16" ghost on top of the cue ball and some of the other balls and I notice
>that I am straining to read some of the copy that I know I shouldn't be
>straining to read. An eye exam is in order and since my wife just took a
>job at the local hospital we will have primo health benefits. I've been
>blessed with 20/15 visions most of my life and have never seen an eye
>doctor. My son had Lasik eye surgery and is totally happy with the results.
>I am interested in knowing how some of you senior citizens view LASIK now
>with all of the new technology coming down the pike.
>
>Why wouldn't you get LASIK surgery to improve your vision?
>Thanks,
>JoeyA
>
You're describing someone that needs bi-focals. If you can still see
great at distance objects then LASIK will not do anything for you.
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073323 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 03:28 |
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> JoeyA wrote:
>>Why wouldn't you get LASIK surgery to improve your vision?
Dhakala wrote:
> 2. Patient satisfaction ratings aren't all that high, as of 2003:
I talked to a person that had the surgery and she said it was not all
that great. Said lots of blurriness driving at night. She also said
most people hate to say anything bad about it because they made the
choice and it's too late to bitch. I noticed when talking to people
they generally always say they are glad they had it done, but none of
them, and I mean NONE of them seem as elated as I would expect having
regained perfect vision after years of wearing glasses.
I have another good friend just had it done a year ago. She couldn't
find her shoes, see the alarm clock or much of anything until she put on
her glasses. Now, she can see pretty good. She too has the night
blurring problem however, but considering how poor her eyesight was, it
was worth it for her. She also did not have the ecstatic attitude I
would expect to see from someone who had gone from coke bottle glasses
to almost normal vision. I think driving at night is a big problem for her.
In short, my research into it pretty much agrees with everything you
just said.
For Joey, I think even his doctors (if honest) will nix the idea if his
eyes are only now becoming slightly impaired. For one thing, your eyes
tend to change with age, so, having the surgery at a young age does not
mean your eyes will stay fixed, even if it makes a perfect correction.
--
Jack
http://jbstein.com
> http://www.lasikinstitute.org/Newsroom_qualityoflifeimproved .htm
> "Of the approximately 3 million Americans who underwent laser eye
> surgery since 1995, more than 85 percent said the surgery improved
> their overall quality of life and 93 percent of patients said they were
> satisfied with the results."
>
> So 15 percent didn't agree that lasik improved their overall quality of
> life, and 7 percent didn't say they were satisfied with its results.
> Those aren't the kind of odds on which I'd care to bet my money or my
> eyes.
>
> Also, lasik doesn't seem to improve many people's sports performance:
>
> " Among the benefits of the procedure, respondents cited improvement in
> several specific aspects of vision, daily living and everyday
> activities, including:
>
> "· Ability to see upon waking (seeing an alarm clock) (89%)
> · Freedom from glasses and contacts (83%)
> · Improvement in personal safety (69%)
> · Increased confidence in personal appearance (65%)
> · Better participation in sports or fitness activities (54%)"
>
> 3. I'm real squeamish about messing with my eyes. I wear glasses, not
> contacts.
>
> Overall, I think lasik is best for people with serious visual
> deterioration. If you're just beginning to lose some of that 20/15, I
> don't think you'll get enough benefit for your money. Get some glasses
> or contacts until your eyes start to go really bad.
>
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073326 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 03:32 |
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Jack Stein wrote:
> For Joey, I think even his doctors (if honest) will nix the idea if his
> eyes are only now becoming slightly impaired. For one thing, your eyes
> tend to change with age, so, having the surgery at a young age does not
> mean your eyes will stay fixed, even if it makes a perfect correction.
Joey's young? Who let him in here? :-)
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073328 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 04:09 |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:42:17 -0500, "JoeyA" <joey [at] katrina.com> wrote:
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>Why wouldn't you get LASIK surgery to improve your vision?
>Thanks,
>JoeyA
The doctors I have talked with say they just cannot give you perfect far and
near vision at this time with any procedure.
If you are farsighted in both eyes so that you have to wear reading glasses for
close stuff, yet you have perfect or near-perfect far vision, then LASIK will
have to degrade your far vision to correct your near vision.
They will give you far vision in one eye and near vision in the other eye and
let your brain sort it out. It will, but later when your vision degrades some
more, you will have an even worse problem.
All they can really do is compromise. You can get the same effect with
contacts.
Ron
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073330 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 05:01 |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 00:23:22 GMT, dave y. <nospam [at] myhouse.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:42:17 -0500, "JoeyA" <joey [at] katrina.com> wrote:
>
>>It has been a while since I have seen this subject discussed and I was
>>wondering what the current and most recent consensus is of having Lasik eye
>>surgery. I think my vision may be finally be taking a dip. I noticed a
>>1/16" ghost on top of the cue ball and some of the other balls and I notice
>>that I am straining to read some of the copy that I know I shouldn't be
>>straining to read. An eye exam is in order and since my wife just took a
>>job at the local hospital we will have primo health benefits. I've been
>>blessed with 20/15 visions most of my life and have never seen an eye
>>doctor. My son had Lasik eye surgery and is totally happy with the results.
>>I am interested in knowing how some of you senior citizens view LASIK now
>>with all of the new technology coming down the pike.
>>
>>Why wouldn't you get LASIK surgery to improve your vision?
>>Thanks,
>>JoeyA
>>
>
>You're describing someone that needs bi-focals. If you can still see
>great at distance objects then LASIK will not do anything for you.
What do you consider "distance" it won't improve weak eyes (from
getting older) but it can help you see better close up.
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073331 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 05:03 |
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On 12 Jun 2006 16:33:04 -0700, "Dhakala" <NoPoliticalCalls [at] gmail.com>
wrote:
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>"Of the approximately 3 million Americans who underwent laser eye
>surgery since 1995, more than 85 percent said the surgery improved
>their overall quality of life and 93 percent of patients said they were
>satisfied with the results."
>
>So 15 percent didn't agree that lasik improved their overall quality of
>life, and 7 percent didn't say they were satisfied with its results.
>Those aren't the kind of odds on which I'd care to bet my money or my
>eyes.
You're the kind of guy that sees a glass have full and says it's half
empty aren't you ?
It has a to 93 percent approval rate and 85 percent say it basically
changed their life. That's a pretty damn good rate and a damn good
testimonial to what it can do for your life.
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073335 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 05:58 |
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"JoeyA" <joey [at] katrina.com> wrote in
news:C9ljg.85241$iB2.19812 [at] bignews4.bellsouth.net:
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> Why wouldn't you get LASIK surgery to improve your vision?
> Thanks,
> JoeyA
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Part one:
My friend Joe, whose worn glasses sine he was 10 years old, had
the surgery and says he "sees" the ball and everything else
much better. First time in his life he didn't have to keep
trackof his glasses.
Part two:
A couple of years ago I was interested and a friend in Florida
found out it was much cheaper to have it done in Canada. He
found a Doctor there who was one of the pioneers of the surgery
so we planned to take our wives on vacation to Montreal, get
the surgery and enjoy ourselves. I went to an eye doctor who
said I wasn't a candidate ( and then hurtfully said it wouldn't
help my pool game-no desk side manner LOL)
So I backed out and Mike in FL. did to. The difference in cost
between the USA and Canadian doctors would have paid for the
vacation.
--
Bill O - At the 5 Ball
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073336 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 06:01 |
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me [at] home.net wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2006 16:33:04 -0700, "Dhakala" <NoPoliticalCalls [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Of the approximately 3 million Americans who underwent laser eye
> >surgery since 1995, more than 85 percent said the surgery improved
> >their overall quality of life and 93 percent of patients said they were
> >satisfied with the results."
> >
> >So 15 percent didn't agree that lasik improved their overall quality of
> >life, and 7 percent didn't say they were satisfied with its results.
> >Those aren't the kind of odds on which I'd care to bet my money or my
> >eyes.
>
> You're the kind of guy that sees a glass have full and says it's half
> empty aren't you ?
>
> It has a to 93 percent approval rate and 85 percent say it basically
> changed their life. That's a pretty damn good rate and a damn good
> testimonial to what it can do for your life.
You're the kind of guy that I like to play for money. :-)
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073349 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 07:51 |
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JoeyA wrote
> I was wondering what the current
> and most recent consensus is of
> having Lasik eye surgery.
I have no experience with that.
> I think my vision may be finally
> be taking a dip. I noticed a 1/16"
> ghost on top of the cue ball and
> some of the other balls
That's not too bad. :)
> and I notice
> that I am straining to read some
> of the copy that I know I shouldn't
> be straining to read. An eye exam
> is in order
See what the doctor says. Everything
is not fixable with lasik. If it's
not time for lasik, ask about glasses
with a 2'-10' correction for pool (and,
of course, some readers). Anybody have
experience with those?
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| Re: LASIK surgery and other eye surgery [message #1073350 ] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 08:04 |
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Gregory wrote:
> See what the doctor says. Everything
> is not fixable with lasik. If it's
> not time for lasik, ask about glasses
> with a 2'-10' correction for pool (and,
> of course, some readers). Anybody have
> experience with those?
I wear progressive trifocals with areas for reading/sewing/close work,
computer work, and pool. These "lineless" glasses provide a narrow band
of infinitely variable focal lengths between the computer and pool
areas. Minor head shifting lets me zero in perfectly at any practical
pool distance.
Guess which area is at the top and twice as large as the others? :-)
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