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Sports » rec.sport.rugby.union » Semi OT: Worst use of tactical substitutions
| Semi OT: Worst use of tactical substitutions [message #1071512] |
Sun, 11 June 2006 19:59 |
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Noticed an alarming similarity between the England rugby coach and his
poofball counterpart this weekend. Yesterday Eriksson took off the
only player on the pitch that was likely to get behind the opposition
and threaten from close-range (Owen) and replaced him with an average
midfield player (Downing), with the result that we never looked like
scoring again.
This morning (or evening) Robinson substituted 5 players in 10 minutes,
turning what had been a pretty disappointing performance, albeit with a
few glimmers of hope, into a shambolic final 20 minutes. Players who
had at least shown some form (Barkley, Lund, Catt, Richards) were taken
off and players who were clearly struggling (Varndell) were left to
play out the full 80 minutes.
Doesn't bode well for either team...
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| Re: Semi OT: Worst use of tactical substitutions [message #1071622 ] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 13:48 |
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Rookie wrote:
> Noticed an alarming similarity between the England rugby coach and his
> poofball counterpart this weekend. Yesterday Eriksson took off the
> only player on the pitch that was likely to get behind the opposition
> and threaten from close-range (Owen) and replaced him with an average
> midfield player (Downing), with the result that we never looked like
> scoring again.
>
> This morning (or evening) Robinson substituted 5 players in 10 minutes,
> turning what had been a pretty disappointing performance, albeit with a
> few glimmers of hope, into a shambolic final 20 minutes. Players who
> had at least shown some form (Barkley, Lund, Catt, Richards) were taken
> off and players who were clearly struggling (Varndell) were left to
> play out the full 80 minutes.
>
> Doesn't bode well for either team...
If you take a third of the team off, they will lose shape and it will
go to shit. Every coach - even at a lowly level knows that. Shame AR
doesn't, as now he's looking at a 30 point stuffing instead of a poor,
but not dire 16 (or whatever it was). It took Bath very little time
before they realised his limitations and let him go, and unless he
scalps a big team very soon, his time is up.
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| Re: Semi OT: Worst use of tactical substitutions [message #1071669 ] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 18:17 |
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simon s-b wrote:
> Rookie wrote:
>> Noticed an alarming similarity between the England rugby coach and his
>> poofball counterpart this weekend. Yesterday Eriksson took off the
>> only player on the pitch that was likely to get behind the opposition
>> and threaten from close-range (Owen) and replaced him with an average
>> midfield player (Downing), with the result that we never looked like
>> scoring again.
>>
>> This morning (or evening) Robinson substituted 5 players in 10 minutes,
>> turning what had been a pretty disappointing performance, albeit with a
>> few glimmers of hope, into a shambolic final 20 minutes. Players who
>> had at least shown some form (Barkley, Lund, Catt, Richards) were taken
>> off and players who were clearly struggling (Varndell) were left to
>> play out the full 80 minutes.
>>
>> Doesn't bode well for either team...
>
> If you take a third of the team off, they will lose shape and it will
> go to shit. Every coach - even at a lowly level knows that. Shame AR
> doesn't, as now he's looking at a 30 point stuffing instead of a poor,
> but not dire 16 (or whatever it was). It took Bath very little time
> before they realised his limitations and let him go, and unless he
> scalps a big team very soon, his time is up.
>
The win against asstralia & the near miss against NZ last year prolonged
the agony. If he'd lost both he'd have gone by now.
Despite his crap management, england will scrape enough wins to allow AR
to hold onto his job but a disappointing WC showing will finish him off.
John Wells will be the next england coach.
Mike
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| Re: Semi OT: Worst use of tactical substitutions [message #1071670 ] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 18:29 |
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Mike wrote:
> simon s-b wrote:
> > Rookie wrote:
> >> Noticed an alarming similarity between the England rugby coach and his
> >> poofball counterpart this weekend. Yesterday Eriksson took off the
> >> only player on the pitch that was likely to get behind the opposition
> >> and threaten from close-range (Owen) and replaced him with an average
> >> midfield player (Downing), with the result that we never looked like
> >> scoring again.
> >>
> >> This morning (or evening) Robinson substituted 5 players in 10 minutes,
> >> turning what had been a pretty disappointing performance, albeit with a
> >> few glimmers of hope, into a shambolic final 20 minutes. Players who
> >> had at least shown some form (Barkley, Lund, Catt, Richards) were taken
> >> off and players who were clearly struggling (Varndell) were left to
> >> play out the full 80 minutes.
> >>
> >> Doesn't bode well for either team...
> >
> > If you take a third of the team off, they will lose shape and it will
> > go to shit. Every coach - even at a lowly level knows that. Shame AR
> > doesn't, as now he's looking at a 30 point stuffing instead of a poor,
> > but not dire 16 (or whatever it was). It took Bath very little time
> > before they realised his limitations and let him go, and unless he
> > scalps a big team very soon, his time is up.
> >
>
> The win against asstralia & the near miss against NZ last year prolonged
> the agony. If he'd lost both he'd have gone by now.
>
> Despite his crap management, england will scrape enough wins to allow AR
> to hold onto his job but a disappointing WC showing will finish him off.
>
> John Wells will be the next england coach.
>
> Mike
Or Harlequins will have a cracking return to the GP and the RFU will
try to get Dean Richards on board for 6N 2008
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| Re: Semi OT: Worst use of tactical substitutions [message #1071674 ] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 18:39 |
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Rookie wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>> simon s-b wrote:
>>> Rookie wrote:
>>>> Noticed an alarming similarity between the England rugby coach and his
>>>> poofball counterpart this weekend. Yesterday Eriksson took off the
>>>> only player on the pitch that was likely to get behind the opposition
>>>> and threaten from close-range (Owen) and replaced him with an average
>>>> midfield player (Downing), with the result that we never looked like
>>>> scoring again.
>>>>
>>>> This morning (or evening) Robinson substituted 5 players in 10 minutes,
>>>> turning what had been a pretty disappointing performance, albeit with a
>>>> few glimmers of hope, into a shambolic final 20 minutes. Players who
>>>> had at least shown some form (Barkley, Lund, Catt, Richards) were taken
>>>> off and players who were clearly struggling (Varndell) were left to
>>>> play out the full 80 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't bode well for either team...
>>> If you take a third of the team off, they will lose shape and it will
>>> go to shit. Every coach - even at a lowly level knows that. Shame AR
>>> doesn't, as now he's looking at a 30 point stuffing instead of a poor,
>>> but not dire 16 (or whatever it was). It took Bath very little time
>>> before they realised his limitations and let him go, and unless he
>>> scalps a big team very soon, his time is up.
>>>
>> The win against asstralia & the near miss against NZ last year prolonged
>> the agony. If he'd lost both he'd have gone by now.
>>
>> Despite his crap management, england will scrape enough wins to allow AR
>> to hold onto his job but a disappointing WC showing will finish him off.
>>
>> John Wells will be the next england coach.
>>
>> Mike
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> Or Harlequins will have a cracking return to the GP and the RFU will
> try to get Dean Richards on board for 6N 2008
>
Possibly, but JW has been maneuvering closer to the job over the last
few years and some people give hime more credit for leicesters 4 titles
and two HC than deano.
Mike
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