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| Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069698] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 23:32 |
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Just withdrew following a double at 9.
It will be interesting to hear the story behind this one, but it isn't
difficult to imagine what the "online buzz" is going to sound like.
DJJ
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069700 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 23:36 |
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If you had been watching, you'd know that was having trouble just walking
down the 9th fairway. She looked as if she were going to barf.
"Darrell Jefress" <evely7 [at] tokyo.com> wrote in message
news:A3Utg.130965$mF2.93097 [at] bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Just withdrew following a double at 9.
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> It will be interesting to hear the story behind this one, but it isn't
> difficult to imagine what the "online buzz" is going to sound like.
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> DJJ
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069702 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 23:40 |
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Yes. Another reason why Wie is not ready ... for anything. She should
just go back to school and be a good 16 year old girl.
Darrell Jefress wrote:
> Just withdrew following a double at 9.
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> It will be interesting to hear the story behind this one, but it isn't
> difficult to imagine what the "online buzz" is going to sound like.
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> DJJ
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069703 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 23:41 |
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In article <dradnW-OIY_pkyXZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d [at] adelphia.com>,
"Piturno" <stringent [at] aol.com> wrote:
> If you had been watching, you'd know that was having trouble just walking
> down the 9th fairway. She looked as if she were going to barf.
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> "Darrell Jefress" <evely7 [at] tokyo.com> wrote in message
> news:A3Utg.130965$mF2.93097 [at] bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Just withdrew following a double at 9.
> >
> > It will be interesting to hear the story behind this one, but it isn't
> > difficult to imagine what the "online buzz" is going to sound like.
> >
> > DJJ
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> >
Yep, she was having a tough time just walking. They talked about her
back yesterday because she had done something to it on Wednesday.
I think she made a smart move, back problems are no joke and to try to
keep on playing could have long term repercussions.
Smart move on her part, I think she should have done it earlier.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069704 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 23:50 |
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"Piturno" <stringent [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:dradnW-OIY_pkyXZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d [at] adelphia.com...
> If you had been watching, you'd know that was having trouble just walking
> down the 9th fairway. She looked as if she were going to barf.
I don't doubt it - when the broadcast reaches the West Coast in another
hour, my VCR is ready.
But no matter how legitimate the reason is, the nay-sayers will have a field
day.
DJJ
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069705 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 23:55 |
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early indication is that she had heat exhaustion. watching it live it
didn't look like she was faking it even a little bit. it actually looked
stupid that she continued to play the 9th hole. she just got placed in an
ambulance to go to trinity hospital. she was smiling though as she was
loaded up, so seems to be recovering fine.
"Darrell Jefress" <evely7 [at] tokyo.com> wrote in message
news:wkUtg.387691$Fs1.17915 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
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> "Piturno" <stringent [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:dradnW-OIY_pkyXZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d [at] adelphia.com...
>> If you had been watching, you'd know that was having trouble just walking
>> down the 9th fairway. She looked as if she were going to barf.
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> I don't doubt it - when the broadcast reaches the West Coast in another
> hour, my VCR is ready.
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> But no matter how legitimate the reason is, the nay-sayers will have a
> field
> day.
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> DJJ
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069715 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 00:23 |
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Darrell Jefress wrote:
> Just withdrew following a double at 9.
There goes her shot at the Vardon Trophy.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069716 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 00:23 |
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msn news
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032778/
>mho
>v fe
>p l a n =A0y o u r =A0t r i p s -=A0u s e=A0 l e s s =A0g a s
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069717 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 00:32 |
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radix33 [at] gmail.com wrote:
> Yes. Another reason why Wie is not ready ... for anything. She should
> just go back to school and be a good 16 year old girl.
Well, school's out for the summer. Gotta do something on your summer
break.
People get sick all the time, professionals included.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069723 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 01:17 |
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Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> In article <dradnW-OIY_pkyXZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d [at] adelphia.com>,
> "Piturno" <stringent [at] aol.com> wrote:
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> > If you had been watching, you'd know that was having trouble just walking
> > down the 9th fairway. She looked as if she were going to barf.
> >
> > "Darrell Jefress" <evely7 [at] tokyo.com> wrote in message
> > news:A3Utg.130965$mF2.93097 [at] bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > Just withdrew following a double at 9.
> > >
> > > It will be interesting to hear the story behind this one, but it isn't
> > > difficult to imagine what the "online buzz" is going to sound like.
> > >
> > > DJJ
> > >
> > >
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> Yep, she was having a tough time just walking. They talked about her
> back yesterday because she had done something to it on Wednesday.
>
> I think she made a smart move, back problems are no joke and to try to
> keep on playing could have long term repercussions.
>
> Smart move on her part, I think she should have done it earlier.
Bull. None of the news reports mentioned her back. Heat exhaustion??
Trip
went to the range after playing to hit a hundred drivers or so. And
he's not 16.
He did say there was a nice breeze and it wasn't that hot when TGC
tried to give
Michelle an excuse. She probably would have felt better if she were -3.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069745 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 03:01 |
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"Piturno" <stringent [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:GJCdnc7eGZF5jyXZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d [at] adelphia.com...
> early indication is that she had heat exhaustion. watching it live it
> didn't look like she was faking it even a little bit. it actually looked
> stupid that she continued to play the 9th hole. she just got placed in an
> ambulance to go to trinity hospital. she was smiling though as she was
> loaded up, so seems to be recovering fine.
Glad to hear it. Disappointing as it was, she's still had a better week than
Barbaro.
DJJ
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069746 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 03:23 |
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On 14 Jul 2006 14:40:26 -0700, "radix33 [at] gmail.com" <radix33 [at] gmail.com>
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>Yes. Another reason why Wie is not ready ... for anything. She should
>just go back to school and be a good 16 year old girl.
Does this apply to everybody who withdraws from a tournament claiming
medical reasons?
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069753 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 03:58 |
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069760 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 04:17 |
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annika1980:
There goes her shot at the Vardon Trophy.
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legit LOL
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069761 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 04:24 |
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:58:32 -0400, adam henry <ahole [at] here.com> wrote:
>heres a novel idea. how about having her play in tournaments where
>she has actually has a chance of making the cut? it should be more
>than obvious now that the pga is a whole other level of skill and
>there is not a woman on this planet than can compete on the pga tour.
>enough already.
This is the worst she's played in a long time. If it were all we had
to go on, I'd agree that she shouldn't be entering PGA events.
Happily, it isn't all we have to go on. She has barely missed the cut
in a couple of PGA events, one at age 14, and made the cut in an Asian
tour event, proving that she definitely has a chance at making the
cut. She'll need to get a lot better to compete on the tour, I agree.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069762 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 04:37 |
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:17:08 -0400, JWitzke [at] webtv.net (John A Witzke)
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>annika1980:
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>There goes her shot at the Vardon Trophy.
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>==================================
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>legit LOL
To be fair, she probably does have the lowest average on the LPGA, but
not enough events to qualify for whatever they call their version of
the Vardon.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069765 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 04:59 |
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adam henry wrote:
> On 14 Jul 2006 15:32:55 -0700, rastafarians2002 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
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> >radix33 [at] gmail.com wrote:
> >> Yes. Another reason why Wie is not ready ... for anything. She should
> >> just go back to school and be a good 16 year old girl.
> >
> >Well, school's out for the summer. Gotta do something on your summer
> >break.
> >
> >People get sick all the time, professionals included.
>
> heres a novel idea. how about having her play in tournaments where
> she has actually has a chance of making the cut? it should be more
> than obvious now that the pga is a whole other level of skill and
> there is not a woman on this planet than can compete on the pga tour.
> enough already
Yawn. Get back to reality sometime. She's missed PGA tour cuts by 1
and 2 strokes between age 14-16. She's scored better head-to-head than
a number of PGA pros on those occasions. She has had ups and downs, as
has any golfer. It's actually more obvious to me now that with a
little seasoning, maybe she can compete. I'd love to see her try to
qualify the old-fashioned way, for a PGA tournament, but don't see any
reason to turn down invitations.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069773 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 05:51 |
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She isn't an LPGA member.
"multi" <multi [at] asm.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:17:08 -0400, JWitzke [at] webtv.net (John A Witzke)
> wrote:
>>annika1980:
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>>There goes her shot at the Vardon Trophy.
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>>==================================
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>>legit LOL
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> To be fair, she probably does have the lowest average on the LPGA, but
> not enough events to qualify for whatever they call their version of
> the Vardon.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069779 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 08:15 |
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The story says heat exhaustion. If true, that is=20
nothing to play with. I can attest it will come on
in a very short while and really mess you up.
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, fiveiron [at] webtv.net wrote:
> msn news
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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032778/
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069797 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 15:46 |
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On 14 Jul 2006 19:59:55 -0700, rastafarians2002 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>Yawn. Get back to reality sometime. She's missed PGA tour cuts by 1
>and 2 strokes between age 14-16. She's scored better head-to-head than
>a number of PGA pros on those occasions. She has had ups and downs, as
>has any golfer. It's actually more obvious to me now that with a
>little seasoning, maybe she can compete. I'd love to see her try to
>qualify the old-fashioned way, for a PGA tournament, but don't see any
>reason to turn down invitations.
I'd go embarrass myself for a chance to play. But I'm wondering how
long sponsor exemptions have existed. Maybe they are also an "old
fashioned way".
For a long time, lots of tournaments were Invitationals (that way they
could be all white) - but after they went to open criteria did they
have sponsor exemptions then, or did they come later?
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069846 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 20:02 |
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Zuke wrote:
> The story says heat exhaustion. If true, that is
> nothing to play with. I can attest it will come on
> in a very short while and really mess you up.
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A 16 year old should not get heat exhaustion. Leadbetter's robots are
trained in nutrition.
I think it was a panic attack. Several of the players said it wasn't
really that hot out there.
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069861 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 21:25 |
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pete z wrote:
> Zuke wrote:
> > The story says heat exhaustion. If true, that is
> > nothing to play with. I can attest it will come on
> > in a very short while and really mess you up.
> >
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> A 16 year old should not get heat exhaustion. Leadbetter's robots are
> trained in nutrition.
> I think it was a panic attack. Several of the players said it wasn't
> really that hot out there.
Anyone at any age can get heat exhaustion. Primarily, it's your body's
inability to dissipate the heat you create.
Perspiring is the primary way we maintain our core temperature. If you
don't stay hydrated, you don't sweat. If you don't sweat, you don't
cool. If the ambient temperature is not much below the temperature the
body can tolerate, you need to sweat like crazy to allow the heat to
dissipate. If you dehydrate yourself, your blood pressure drops, and
lots of other weird things happen to your body. Once you're there, the
solution is liquids, cooler temperatures, and rest - usually with your
feet up until your body has had a chance to right itself. Age may make
it easier to dehydrate yourself, but heat-related illnesses are not
limited to the elderly or infirmed.
http://www.drreddy.com/heat.html
http://kidshealth.org/PageManager.jsp?lic=1&article_set= 34201&cat_id=20221
Pete, your bias is showing ...
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069869 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 21:44 |
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radix33 [at] gmail.com wrote:
Yes. Another reason why Wie is not ready ... for anything. She should
just go back to school and be a good 16 year old girl.
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And if the LPGA hadn't changed their age rules as MW was getting ready
to join the tour, she wouldn't have to play in the mens events. She's
only allowed 7 events a year on the LPGA tour, and 4 of those 7 are
majors, where she has an outstanding finishing position average
considering she's only 16.
She's trying to play PROFESSIONAL golf under the rules that are
currently laid out. MW may not have made a PGA cut yet, but until her
withdrawl yesterday, she hadn't finished dead last in an event.
J S
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069874 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 22:01 |
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ahole [at] here.com (adam=A0henry) wrote:
heres a novel idea. how about having her play in tournaments where she
has actually has a chance of making the cut? it should be more than
obvious now that the pga is a whole other level of skill and there is
not a woman on this planet than can compete on the pga tour. enough
already.
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Well, at least the nic listed above is 100% correct. (ahole)
Well let's see. Neither AS or MW has finished last in the PGA tourneys
they were entered in, not including MW's withdrawl yesterday. So I guess
there are also some guys that finished behind them that aren't ready for
the PGA either.
Given time, I'm reasonably sure that AS and MW could be competitive
while adjusting their games to the PGA type courses. AS has the course
management skills and MW has the length to compete with the guys. Their
1st full year would be learning to adjust to the length and putting
speeds of all the different courses the are on the schedule, exactly
what rookies and part time players do now.
J S
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069885 ] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 22:43 |
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multi:
To be fair, she probably does have the lowest average on the LPGA, but
not enough events to qualify for whatever they call their version of the
Vardon.
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as someone already pointed out, it's pretty likely she'd have to be an
LPGA member to qualify for the equivalent trophy...i was just laughing
at annika1980's reference to the obscure caveat that TOUR players are
disqualified from the running for the vardon if they fail to complete a
round of competition at any time during the year
there was an event a few years back (at&t pebble beach?) that was
suspended until months later due to inclimate weather in which many
players were up in arms over having to fly back to the west coast just
to complete one round...anyone who didn't would have been DQ'd from the
race for low scoring average
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| Re: Oh, boy, is MW going to catch grief now . . . . . . [message #1069924 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 02:15 |
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>heres a novel idea. how about having her play in tournaments where she
>has actually has a chance of making the cut?
She plays in as many such tournaments as she's allowed to.
>it should be more than
>obvious now that the pga is a whole other level of skill and there is
>not a woman on this planet than can compete on the pga tour. enough
>already.
The paying audience will decide when it has had enough. You are
contributing to the hype which is making her sponsors very happy.
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So, 16 Juli 2006 16:03 |
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