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| SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036941] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 13:11 |
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My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
football match.
95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
Cheers
UD
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036944 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 13:45 |
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Uncle Dave wrote:
> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> football match.
>
> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>
> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>
> Cheers
>
> UD
Every sports administraion in Aus is looking over their shoulders as
the sleeping giant awakes. Guus Hiddink/Frank Lowry/ONeill have
brought credibility back to soccer by creating a proper domestic
competition and qualifying for the finals of WC. Frank Lowry's money
certainly helps as well. For years soccer has been a mess but its
cleaned up its act now.
Stex
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036945 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 13:48 |
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Uncle Dave wrote:
> Is this just a fashion thing which will subside whenever they get
knocked out of the
> WC
Missed this bit, IF they get knocked out of the world cup. Not a great
soccer fan but didnt they just beat the European Champions?
Stex
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036946 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 13:55 |
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Uncle Dave wrote:
>My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>football match.
>
>95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets?
Oz vs Greece at Melbourne is a home game for both sides. Melbourne
reputedly having the second largest Greek population of a city outside
of Athens. Also Greece are the current European champions.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036949 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 14:13 |
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Stex wrote:
> Uncle Dave wrote:
> > Is this just a fashion thing which will subside whenever they get
> knocked out of the
> > WC
>
> Missed this bit, IF they get knocked out of the world cup. Not a great
> soccer fan but didnt they just beat the European Champions?
Ah, but this is the WORLD Cup ;-) and Greece were well,
surprising, at Euro 2004. Anyway, good to see, shame I didn't know it
was on or I would have watched it.
Cheers
UD
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036959 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 15:03 |
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"Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> football match.
>
> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team is
winning at the time..
Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
>
> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union fans
are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036960 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 15:05 |
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"Stex" <stex2727 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148557711.772533.51650 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> Uncle Dave wrote:
> > Is this just a fashion thing which will subside whenever they get
> knocked out of the
>> WC
>
> Missed this bit, IF they get knocked out of the world cup. Not a great
> soccer fan but didnt they just beat the European Champions?
Which is why the international Soccer outside the SWC is a joke. Australia
beat England and Brazill at various times recently too, but I would hardly
expect them to get close to any of those teams in a WC playoff.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036968 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 17:26 |
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Uncle Dave wrote:
> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> football match.
>
> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>
> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>
> Cheers
>
> UD
>
This was kicking off {arf} when I lived there in '96.
I'd say it depends on the uptake of shall we say 'foreign' kids who want
to play. Your dinky di aussie kids won't be too fussed.
But despite constant claims that they are 'only a small country',
{usually when they lose}, Australia is well inside the top ten biggest
populations in the world, so it has plenty of room for soccer as well as
everything else. Especially now they seem to have given up swimming and
cricket, w000t.....
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036970 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 17:32 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> "Stex" <stex2727 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1148557711.772533.51650 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Uncle Dave wrote:
>>> Is this just a fashion thing which will subside whenever they get
>> knocked out of the
>>> WC
>> Missed this bit, IF they get knocked out of the world cup. Not a great
>> soccer fan but didnt they just beat the European Champions?
>
> Which is why the international Soccer outside the SWC is a joke. Australia
> beat England and Brazill at various times recently too, but I would hardly
> expect them to get close to any of those teams in a WC playoff.
>
>
>
But the RWC is a lottery, I see.......
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036991 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 21:57 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> > football match.
> >
> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>
> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team is
> winning at the time..
> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
>
>
> >
> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>
> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union fans
> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
I think you seriously underestimate the threat from Soccer. Bit like
RWC 2003 aye. That nice bloke O'Neill will still let us host the RWC
with them wont he. I think now they have the infrastructure and
administration to make the most out of this world cup. Remember the WC
is now backed up by the Soccceroos playing in the asian league.
Stex
Happy bandwagon jumper (cos it aint like NZ has a soccer team)
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036994 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 22:55 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> > football match.
> >
> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>
> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team is
> winning at the time..
> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
Forget about the netball you lightweight softcock! The only country
where it is followed with any earnestness is NZ. And international
league has never been followed with much enthusiasm in Australia
either, despite the fact that they have been the number one team for
the last 50 years or so. In fact that is probably one of the reasons
there is so little interest in the international game in Australia.
They obviously have the wit to realise that the concept of
international league is a joke anyway. At least give them some credit.
This is all in contrast to Kiwis who are far more likely to be guilty
of shameless bandwagon jumping. Remember when the equestrian was all
the rage in NZ? Remember how we used to be good at it? I recall one
time when I tuned into the main tv news bulletin and was greeted by
Judy Bailey proudly announcing that NZ was currently the "TOAST OF THE
WORLD". Apparently we had had some success in the equestrian.
Isn't it odd the way the focus of WORLD attention always appeared to
vary according to which particular sport NZ was having success in at
the time?
>
> >
> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>
> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union fans
> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
So what are these other football codes then, apart from the ones you
have mentioned?
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1036999 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 23:53 |
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x-no-archive:yes
<snip>
jesus Ernie, you really like putting the boot into your own countrymen,
don't you? You'd almost think it was a very specific case of tall poppy
syndrome, in that every poppy in the country is taller than you.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037009 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 00:44 |
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"Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> football match.
>
> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>
> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>
> Cheers
>
> UD
>
We are in the World Cup and that has really raised Soccer's profile. Now as
for Greece, well Melbourne has the 3rd largest Greek population in the World
so you were always going to get a huge crowd. Also one team doesn't
dominate the "A" league ( the new competition ).
Soccer's future isn't that bright because we like to see the best players
and everytime you get a good one the money from overseas ( even for a 2nd
rate competition ) is way more then they can get in Australia. But what
Australia has going for it is that parents are scared of their children
getting hurt in sports like Rugby League & Union and Australian Rules so
they put them into soccer.
As for me I, well soccer bores me to tears and I doubt if I will watch a
match
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037020 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 01:29 |
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Kozz wrote:
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> <snip>
>
> jesus Ernie, you really like putting the boot into your own countrymen,
> don't you? You'd almost think it was a very specific case of tall poppy
> syndrome, in that every poppy in the country is taller than you.
>
Watch out, he'll jump up and bite your knees.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037024 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 01:30 |
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"didgerman" <didgerman [at] rfu.com> wrote in message
news:01kdg.33$nc.2 [at] newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> Uncle Dave wrote:
>> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>> football match.
>>
>> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>>
>> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
>> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> UD
>>
>
> This was kicking off {arf} when I lived there in '96.
> I'd say it depends on the uptake of shall we say 'foreign' kids who want
> to play. Your dinky di aussie kids won't be too fussed.
> But despite constant claims that they are 'only a small country', {usually
> when they lose}, Australia is well inside the top ten biggest populations
> in the world, so it has plenty of room for soccer as well as everything
> else. Especially now they seem to have given up swimming and cricket,
> w000t.....
I think you will find that Aus has less than 1% of the worlds population and
would maybe just make it into the top 50 countries when it comes to
population ( and that would be helped by the splitting up of some European
states ) having said that it probably has double the population of Greece.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037025 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 01:37 |
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"dechucka" <dechucka [at] vomithotmail.com.au> wrote in message
news:44763e10$0$3657$5a62ac22 [at] per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
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> "didgerman" <didgerman [at] rfu.com> wrote in message
> news:01kdg.33$nc.2 [at] newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> Uncle Dave wrote:
>>> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>>> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>>> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>>> football match.
>>>
>>> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>>> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>>> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>>> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>>>
>>> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>>> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
>>> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>>> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>>> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> UD
>>>
>>
>> This was kicking off {arf} when I lived there in '96.
>> I'd say it depends on the uptake of shall we say 'foreign' kids who want
>> to play. Your dinky di aussie kids won't be too fussed.
>> But despite constant claims that they are 'only a small country',
>> {usually when they lose}, Australia is well inside the top ten biggest
>> populations in the world, so it has plenty of room for soccer as well as
>> everything else. Especially now they seem to have given up swimming and
>> cricket, w000t.....
>
> I think you will find that Aus has less than 1% of the worlds population
> and would maybe just make it into the top 50 countries when it comes to
> population ( and that would be helped by the splitting up of some European
> states ) having said that it probably has double the population of Greece.
I was wrong Australia is estimated to be the 53 most populated country
http://www.geohive.com/global/pop_data1.php (isn't google wonderful). UK is
22, SA 27, Greece 79, NZ 127
>
>
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037056 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 10:34 |
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"didgerman" <didgerman [at] rfu.com> wrote in message news:01kdg.33$nc.2 [at] newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> Uncle Dave wrote:
>> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>> football match.
>>
>> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>>
>> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
>> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> UD
>>
>
> This was kicking off {arf} when I lived there in '96.
> I'd say it depends on the uptake of shall we say 'foreign' kids who want to play. Your dinky di
> aussie kids won't be too fussed.
> But despite constant claims that they are 'only a small country', {usually when they lose},
> Australia is well inside the top ten biggest populations in the world, so it has plenty of room
> for soccer as well as everything else. Especially now they seem to have given up swimming and
> cricket, w000t.....
Last night's match was unlikely to have won any new converts - I watched the whole second half
waiting for something interesting to happen: some bloke tripped over some air molecules and cried
blue murder while everyone else just kicked this ball around - boring as fewk.
Brad
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037059 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 10:52 |
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Will_S wrote:
> As for me I, well soccer bores me to tears and I doubt if I will watch a
> match
I enjoy it and following last night's result (England 1-2 Belarus), I
think I'm going to enjoy the world cup immensely. The first game will
be crucial and if Paraguay can get a result, then Sven's last match in
charge could be against his fellow countrymen, a team England have
failed to beat for about 200 years.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037067 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 11:05 |
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"Kozz" <richard.raudon [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148594025.110058.105410 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> <snip>
>
> jesus Ernie, you really like putting the boot into your own countrymen,
> don't you?
Erm he's an Aussie. The 'us kiwis' line is a ruse designed to put some
credibilty into his lame attacks on NZ.
> You'd almost think it was a very specific case of tall poppy
> syndrome, in that every poppy in the country is taller than you.
Ironic isn't it.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037068 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 11:06 |
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"Stex" <stex2727 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148587053.358499.23980 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Uncle Bully wrote:
>> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>> > football match.
>> >
>> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>>
>> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team
>> is
>> winning at the time..
>> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
>> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
>> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>>
>> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
>> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
>> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union
>> fans
>> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
>
> I think you seriously underestimate the threat from Soccer.
Nope. I don't underestimate soccer, I just don't think other codes will
suffer.
Soccer will simply be added to the list for Aussie sports fans,(as long as
they do ok at it)
> Bit like
> RWC 2003 aye. That nice bloke O'Neill will still let us host the RWC
> with them wont he. I think now they have the infrastructure and
> administration to make the most out of this world cup. Remember the WC
> is now backed up by the Soccceroos playing in the asian league.
>
> Stex
> Happy bandwagon jumper (cos it aint like NZ has a soccer team)
>
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Fr, 26 Mai 2006 11:11 |
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<Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148590513.725194.257100 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> Uncle Bully wrote:
>
>> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>> > football match.
>> >
>> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>>
>> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team
>> is
>> winning at the time..
>> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
>> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
>
> Forget about the netball you lightweight softcock! The only country
> where it is followed with any earnestness is NZ.
Except when it makes front page news in Australia you mean? (Google Anne
Sargeant if you want to keep up with local news)
> And international
> league has never been followed with much enthusiasm in Australia
> either, despite the fact that they have been the number one team for
> the last 50 years or so.
> In fact that is probably one of the reasons
> there is so little interest in the international game in Australia.
> They obviously have the wit to realise that the concept of
> international league is a joke anyway. At least give them some credit.
>
> This is all in contrast to Kiwis who are far more likely to be guilty
> of shameless bandwagon jumping. Remember when the equestrian was all
> the rage in NZ? Remember how we used to be good at it? I recall one
> time when I tuned into the main tv news bulletin and was greeted by
> Judy Bailey proudly announcing that NZ was currently the "TOAST OF THE
> WORLD". Apparently we had had some success in the equestrian.
>
> Isn't it odd the way the focus of WORLD attention always appeared to
> vary according to which particular sport NZ was having success in at
> the time?
So in the last 30 years, one equestrian event from the early 80's is the
best example you could come up with?
Are you arguing for or against? It's hard to tell.
>
>>
>> >
>> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
>> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>>
>> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
>> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
>> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union
>> fans
>> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
>
> So what are these other football codes then, apart from the ones you
> have mentioned?
English really isn't your first language is it?
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037089 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 13:56 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> <Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1148590513.725194.257100 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> > Uncle Bully wrote:
> >
> >> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
> >> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> >> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> >> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> >> > football match.
> >> >
> >> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> >> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> >> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> >> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
> >>
> >> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team
> >> is
> >> winning at the time..
> >> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
> >> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
> >
> > Forget about the netball you lightweight softcock! The only country
> > where it is followed with any earnestness is NZ.
>
> Except when it makes front page news in Australia you mean? (Google Anne
> Sargeant if you want to keep up with local news)
I don't need to google it. I'm well aware that she was relieved of
commentating duties because she was considered too old or out of touch.
But so what? It's got no relevance to the point being discussed. Feel
free to try again, shit fer brains.
>
> > And international
> > league has never been followed with much enthusiasm in Australia
> > either, despite the fact that they have been the number one team for
> > the last 50 years or so.
> > In fact that is probably one of the reasons
> > there is so little interest in the international game in Australia.
> > They obviously have the wit to realise that the concept of
> > international league is a joke anyway. At least give them some credit.
> >
> > This is all in contrast to Kiwis who are far more likely to be guilty
> > of shameless bandwagon jumping. Remember when the equestrian was all
> > the rage in NZ? Remember how we used to be good at it? I recall one
> > time when I tuned into the main tv news bulletin and was greeted by
> > Judy Bailey proudly announcing that NZ was currently the "TOAST OF THE
> > WORLD". Apparently we had had some success in the equestrian.
> >
> > Isn't it odd the way the focus of WORLD attention always appeared to
> > vary according to which particular sport NZ was having success in at
> > the time?
>
> So in the last 30 years, one equestrian event from the early 80's is the
> best example you could come up with?
> Are you arguing for or against? It's hard to tell.
No, there were plenty of other equestrian events in which NZ had
success. I could name other sports too. The point about mentioning the
equestrian though is that there is no way any similarly lame ass sport
would achieve the kind of status in Australia that equestrian did in
NZ, not ever.
>
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> >> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> >> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> >> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> >> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
> >>
> >> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
> >> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
> >> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union
> >> fans
> >> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
> >
> > So what are these other football codes then, apart from the ones you
> > have mentioned?
>
> English really isn't your first language is it?
Coming from a f***ing moron such as yourself, that's kinda ironic.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037094 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 14:13 |
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In article <4475abd7$0$7900$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE says...
>
>
>
>"Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
>news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>> football match.
>>
>> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>
>It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team is
>winning at the time..
Bollocks. The infamous succession of failures of world cup qualification over
the last several attempts might just have something to do with it. Ever hear
about the '97 failure ?
http://www.mcg.org.au/default.asp?pg=historydisplay&arti cleid=193
A few people turned up to watch that one.
How about 2001 vs Uruguay ?
http://www.mcg.org.au/default.asp?pg=searchdisplay&artic leid=757
Geddit ?
>Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
>Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
"Yet" ? Huh ? Was the Socceroos success somehow achieved despite the other's
losses ?
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037120 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 21:19 |
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dechucka wrote:
> "dechucka" <dechucka [at] vomithotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:44763e10$0$3657$5a62ac22 [at] per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> "didgerman" <didgerman [at] rfu.com> wrote in message
>> news:01kdg.33$nc.2 [at] newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>> Uncle Dave wrote:
>>>> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
>>>> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>>>> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>>>> football match.
>>>>
>>>> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>>>> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>>>> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>>>> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>>>>
>>>> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>>>> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
>>>> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>>>> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>>>> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> UD
>>>>
>>> This was kicking off {arf} when I lived there in '96.
>>> I'd say it depends on the uptake of shall we say 'foreign' kids who want
>>> to play. Your dinky di aussie kids won't be too fussed.
>>> But despite constant claims that they are 'only a small country',
>>> {usually when they lose}, Australia is well inside the top ten biggest
>>> populations in the world, so it has plenty of room for soccer as well as
>>> everything else. Especially now they seem to have given up swimming and
>>> cricket, w000t.....
>> I think you will find that Aus has less than 1% of the worlds population
>> and would maybe just make it into the top 50 countries when it comes to
>> population ( and that would be helped by the splitting up of some European
>> states ) having said that it probably has double the population of Greece.
>
>
> I was wrong Australia is estimated to be the 53 most populated country
> http://www.geohive.com/global/pop_data1.php (isn't google wonderful). UK is
> 22, SA 27, Greece 79, NZ 127
Yoink, so Oz is hardly in the top 25% most populated then. Ah well, live
and learn....
>>
>
>
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037121 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 21:20 |
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Martyn W wrote:
> Will_S wrote:
>
>> As for me I, well soccer bores me to tears and I doubt if I will watch a
>> match
>
> I enjoy it and following last night's result (England 1-2 Belarus), I
> think I'm going to enjoy the world cup immensely. The first game will
> be crucial and if Paraguay can get a result, then Sven's last match in
> charge could be against his fellow countrymen, a team England have
> failed to beat for about 200 years.
>
Dream on....
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037133 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 23:02 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> "Stex" <stex2727 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1148587053.358499.23980 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Uncle Bully wrote:
> >> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
> >> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> >> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> >> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> >> > football match.
> >> >
> >> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> >> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> >> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> >> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
> >>
> >> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team
> >> is
> >> winning at the time..
> >> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
> >> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> >> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> >> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> >> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> >> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
> >>
> >> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
> >> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
> >> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union
> >> fans
> >> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
> >
> > I think you seriously underestimate the threat from Soccer.
>
> Nope. I don't underestimate soccer, I just don't think other codes will
> suffer.
> Soccer will simply be added to the list for Aussie sports fans,(as long as
> they do ok at it)
>
>
What about broadcasting rights. Not so long ago Soccer was giving away
the rights to televise matches. Young Packer will just find some money
or will he cut back on other sports if soccer takes off.
Stex
>
> > Bit like
> > RWC 2003 aye. That nice bloke O'Neill will still let us host the RWC
> > with them wont he. I think now they have the infrastructure and
> > administration to make the most out of this world cup. Remember the WC
> > is now backed up by the Soccceroos playing in the asian league.
> >
> > Stex
> > Happy bandwagon jumper (cos it aint like NZ has a soccer team)
> >
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037134 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 23:05 |
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Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> Uncle Bully wrote:
>
> > <Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1148590513.725194.257100 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> > > Uncle Bully wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
> > >> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> > >> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> > >> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> > >> > football match.
> > >> >
> > >> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> > >> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> > >> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> > >> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
> > >>
> > >> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team
> > >> is
> > >> winning at the time..
> > >> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
> > >> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
> > >
> > > Forget about the netball you lightweight softcock! The only country
> > > where it is followed with any earnestness is NZ.
> >
> > Except when it makes front page news in Australia you mean? (Google Anne
> > Sargeant if you want to keep up with local news)
>
> I don't need to google it. I'm well aware that she was relieved of
> commentating duties because she was considered too old or out of touch.
> But so what? It's got no relevance to the point being discussed. Feel
> free to try again, shit fer brains.
>
>
> >
> > > And international
> > > league has never been followed with much enthusiasm in Australia
> > > either, despite the fact that they have been the number one team for
> > > the last 50 years or so.
> > > In fact that is probably one of the reasons
> > > there is so little interest in the international game in Australia.
> > > They obviously have the wit to realise that the concept of
> > > international league is a joke anyway. At least give them some credit.
> > >
> > > This is all in contrast to Kiwis who are far more likely to be guilty
> > > of shameless bandwagon jumping. Remember when the equestrian was all
> > > the rage in NZ? Remember how we used to be good at it? I recall one
> > > time when I tuned into the main tv news bulletin and was greeted by
> > > Judy Bailey proudly announcing that NZ was currently the "TOAST OF THE
> > > WORLD". Apparently we had had some success in the equestrian.
> > >
> > > Isn't it odd the way the focus of WORLD attention always appeared to
> > > vary according to which particular sport NZ was having success in at
> > > the time?
> >
> > So in the last 30 years, one equestrian event from the early 80's is the
> > best example you could come up with?
> > Are you arguing for or against? It's hard to tell.
>
> No, there were plenty of other equestrian events in which NZ had
> success. I could name other sports too. The point about mentioning the
> equestrian though is that there is no way any similarly lame ass sport
> would achieve the kind of status in Australia that equestrian did in
> NZ, not ever.
>
You right Ernie, a sport when all the competitors fall over and the
last man standing on ice skates would never make the news. Oh thats
right GOLD GOLD GOLD for Australia.
Stex
> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> > >> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> > >> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> > >> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> > >> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
> > >>
> > >> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
> > >> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
> > >> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union
> > >> fans
> > >> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
> > >
> > > So what are these other football codes then, apart from the ones you
> > > have mentioned?
> >
> > English really isn't your first language is it?
>
> Coming from a f***ing moron such as yourself, that's kinda ironic.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037156 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 01:44 |
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Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> Uncle Bully wrote:
>
> > <Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1148590513.725194.257100 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> > > Uncle Bully wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
> > >> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> > >> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> > >> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> > >> > football match.
> > >> >
> > >> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> > >> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> > >> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> > >> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
> > >>
> > >> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team
> > >> is
> > >> winning at the time..
> > >> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
> > >> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
> > >
> > > Forget about the netball you lightweight softcock! The only country
> > > where it is followed with any earnestness is NZ.
> >
> > Except when it makes front page news in Australia you mean? (Google Anne
> > Sargeant if you want to keep up with local news)
>
> I don't need to google it. I'm well aware that she was relieved of
> commentating duties because she was considered too old or out of touch.
> But so what? It's got no relevance to the point being discussed. Feel
> free to try again, shit fer brains.
>
>
> >
> > > And international
> > > league has never been followed with much enthusiasm in Australia
> > > either, despite the fact that they have been the number one team for
> > > the last 50 years or so.
> > > In fact that is probably one of the reasons
> > > there is so little interest in the international game in Australia.
> > > They obviously have the wit to realise that the concept of
> > > international league is a joke anyway. At least give them some credit.
> > >
> > > This is all in contrast to Kiwis who are far more likely to be guilty
> > > of shameless bandwagon jumping. Remember when the equestrian was all
> > > the rage in NZ? Remember how we used to be good at it? I recall one
> > > time when I tuned into the main tv news bulletin and was greeted by
> > > Judy Bailey proudly announcing that NZ was currently the "TOAST OF THE
> > > WORLD". Apparently we had had some success in the equestrian.
> > >
> > > Isn't it odd the way the focus of WORLD attention always appeared to
> > > vary according to which particular sport NZ was having success in at
> > > the time?
> >
> > So in the last 30 years, one equestrian event from the early 80's is the
> > best example you could come up with?
> > Are you arguing for or against? It's hard to tell.
>
> No, there were plenty of other equestrian events in which NZ had
> success. I could name other sports too. The point about mentioning the
> equestrian though is that there is no way any similarly lame ass sport
> would achieve the kind of status in Australia that equestrian did in
> NZ, not ever.
>
So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
is on today?
Stex
> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
> > >> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I think.
> > >> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
> > >> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
> > >> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
> > >>
> > >> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here. Other
> > >> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly to
> > >> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union
> > >> fans
> > >> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
> > >
> > > So what are these other football codes then, apart from the ones you
> > > have mentioned?
> >
> > English really isn't your first language is it?
>
> Coming from a f***ing moron such as yourself, that's kinda ironic.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037158 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 02:09 |
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"Stex" <stex2727 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148677354.692982.297990 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Uncle Bully wrote:
>> "Stex" <stex2727 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1148587053.358499.23980 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Uncle Bully wrote:
>> >> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
>> >> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working
>> >> > from
>> >> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on
>> >> > to
>> >> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>> >> > football match.
>> >> >
>> >> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would
>> >> > be
>> >> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just
>> >> > a
>> >> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of
>> >> > the
>> >> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>> >>
>> >> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever
>> >> team
>> >> is
>> >> winning at the time..
>> >> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet
>> >> the
>> >> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>> >> > handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I
>> >> > think.
>> >> > Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>> >> > good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>> >> > so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>> >>
>> >> Soccer definitely has a future because there are so many wogs here.
>> >> Other
>> >> football codes won't suffer as long as they don't lose too regularly
>> >> to
>> >> non-Australian teams. That makes AFL and League fairly safe, and Union
>> >> fans
>> >> are largely a completely different socio-economic group :)
>> >
>> > I think you seriously underestimate the threat from Soccer.
>>
>> Nope. I don't underestimate soccer, I just don't think other codes will
>> suffer.
>> Soccer will simply be added to the list for Aussie sports fans,(as long
>> as
>> they do ok at it)
>>
>>
>
> What about broadcasting rights. Not so long ago Soccer was giving away
> the rights to televise matches. Young Packer will just find some money
> or will he cut back on other sports if soccer takes off.
There's five FTA TV channels here and four major codes of footy. Can't see
any issues there.
Also, I expect soccer to be a bit like Union in Aus, where only the big
internationals make it to to FTA TV.
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Sa, 27 Mai 2006 02:10 |
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>> No, there were plenty of other equestrian events in which NZ had
>> success. I could name other sports too. The point about mentioning the
>> equestrian though is that there is no way any similarly lame ass sport
>> would achieve the kind of status in Australia that equestrian did in
>> NZ, not ever.
>>
>
> So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
> dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
> todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
> is on today?
Hehe. Owned!
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037163 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 03:31 |
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didgerman wrote:
> dechucka wrote:
>> "dechucka" <dechucka [at] vomithotmail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:44763e10$0$3657$5a62ac22 [at] per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> "didgerman" <didgerman [at] rfu.com> wrote in message
>>> news:01kdg.33$nc.2 [at] newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>>> Uncle Dave wrote:
>>>>> My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working
>>>>> from
>>>>> home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
>>>>> watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
>>>>> football match.
>>>>>
>>>>> 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
>>>>> something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
>>>>> fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
>>>>> WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know Aussies get behind their country at whatever sport but the
>>>>> handful of Aussies I know seem to have gone soccer mad lately. I
>>>>> think.
>>>>> Though IIRC, one team dominates the domestic league which is not a
>>>>> good thing, regardless, does soccer have a real future in Aus and if
>>>>> so, which of the other footies is going to suffer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> UD
>>>>>
>>>> This was kicking off {arf} when I lived there in '96.
>>>> I'd say it depends on the uptake of shall we say 'foreign' kids who
>>>> want to play. Your dinky di aussie kids won't be too fussed.
>>>> But despite constant claims that they are 'only a small country',
>>>> {usually when they lose}, Australia is well inside the top ten
>>>> biggest populations in the world, so it has plenty of room for
>>>> soccer as well as everything else. Especially now they seem to have
>>>> given up swimming and cricket, w000t.....
>>> I think you will find that Aus has less than 1% of the worlds
>>> population and would maybe just make it into the top 50 countries
>>> when it comes to population ( and that would be helped by the
>>> splitting up of some European states ) having said that it probably
>>> has double the population of Greece.
>>
>>
>> I was wrong Australia is estimated to be the 53 most populated country
>> http://www.geohive.com/global/pop_data1.php (isn't google wonderful).
>> UK is 22, SA 27, Greece 79, NZ 127
>
> Yoink, so Oz is hardly in the top 25% most populated then. Ah well, live
> and learn....
>
>>>
>>
>>
Notice you said Populated - not civilised.
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Sa, 27 Mai 2006 04:04 |
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Stex wrote:
> So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
> dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
> todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
> is on today?
>
> Stex
Not a single word about it in yesterday's Australian either. Has it been
cancelled?
-- rick boyd
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037171 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 04:43 |
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"rick boyd" <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote in message
news:4477b409$1 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
> Stex wrote:
>
>
>> So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
>> dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
>> todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
>> is on today?
>>
>> Stex
>
> Not a single word about it in yesterday's Australian either. Has it been
> cancelled?
Must be on after all. Today's Ozt has an article about Henry comma G
viewing the final w/- a view to finalising the AB squad. Another
article/phone interview features that lovely Mr Deans.
Mind you, the same edition also carries about a trillion words on Aus S14
hopes for next year; (general verdict: not exactly sparkling)...
CP
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037179 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 07:32 |
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Stex wrote:
> Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> > Uncle Bully wrote:
> >
> > > <Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1148590513.725194.257100 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> > > > Uncle Bully wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Uncle Dave" <davidcovey [at] t-online.de> wrote in message
> > > >> news:1148555508.259697.187490 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> > My particular part of Europe having closed down, I've been working from
> > > >> > home (well, from my grotty little hotel room). Turned the telly on to
> > > >> > watch with my lunch to find Orstralya playing Greece in a friendly
> > > >> > football match.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 95,000 people watching a friendly in most parts of the world would be
> > > >> > something but in Aus?! Free beer? ;-) Free tickets? Is this just a
> > > >> > fashion thing which will subside whenever they get knocked out of the
> > > >> > WC, or is football really getting to be popular down under?
> > > >>
> > > >> It's the age old Australian tradition of jumping ship to whichever team
> > > >> is
> > > >> winning at the time..
> > > >> Last year Australia lost the Union, League, Netball and Cricket, yet the
> > > >> Socceroos qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 30 years.
> > > >
> > > > Forget about the netball you lightweight softcock! The only country
> > > > where it is followed with any earnestness is NZ.
> > >
> > > Except when it makes front page news in Australia you mean? (Google Anne
> > > Sargeant if you want to keep up with local news)
> >
> > I don't need to google it. I'm well aware that she was relieved of
> > commentating duties because she was considered too old or out of touch.
> > But so what? It's got no relevance to the point being discussed. Feel
> > free to try again, shit fer brains.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > And international
> > > > league has never been followed with much enthusiasm in Australia
> > > > either, despite the fact that they have been the number one team for
> > > > the last 50 years or so.
> > > > In fact that is probably one of the reasons
> > > > there is so little interest in the international game in Australia.
> > > > They obviously have the wit to realise that the concept of
> > > > international league is a joke anyway. At least give them some credit.
> > > >
> > > > This is all in contrast to Kiwis who are far more likely to be guilty
> > > > of shameless bandwagon jumping. Remember when the equestrian was all
> > > > the rage in NZ? Remember how we used to be good at it? I recall one
> > > > time when I tuned into the main tv news bulletin and was greeted by
> > > > Judy Bailey proudly announcing that NZ was currently the "TOAST OF THE
> > > > WORLD". Apparently we had had some success in the equestrian.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it odd the way the focus of WORLD attention always appeared to
> > > > vary according to which particular sport NZ was having success in at
> > > > the time?
> > >
> > > So in the last 30 years, one equestrian event from the early 80's is the
> > > best example you could come up with?
> > > Are you arguing for or against? It's hard to tell.
> >
> > No, there were plenty of other equestrian events in which NZ had
> > success. I could name other sports too. The point about mentioning the
> > equestrian though is that there is no way any similarly lame ass sport
> > would achieve the kind of status in Australia that equestrian did in
> > NZ, not ever.
> >
>
> So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
> dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
> todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
> is on today?
I don't know why there would be two pages dedicated to the equestrian.
What exactly are these alleged equestrian stories about? I don't seem
to be able to find them on the Courier Mail website and it takes a few
days before the printed edition arrives here. Are you sure it's not
just the racing pages you are looking at?
As for the brief coverage of the Super 14 final that is to be expected
since there are no Australian sides in the final. It was very similar
here a few years ago when there was no NZ team in the final. In fact as
I recall there were no NZ teams in the semis at all that year, so it
was a pretty quiet couple of weeks of Super 12 coverage all round, as
it was then.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037180 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 07:33 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> >> No, there were plenty of other equestrian events in which NZ had
> >> success. I could name other sports too. The point about mentioning the
> >> equestrian though is that there is no way any similarly lame ass sport
> >> would achieve the kind of status in Australia that equestrian did in
> >> NZ, not ever.
> >>
> >
> > So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
> > dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
> > todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
> > is on today?
>
>
> Hehe. Owned!
That's pretty pathetic dude, even for your very low standards.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037258 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 22:57 |
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Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> > So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
> > dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
> > todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
> > is on today?
>
> I don't know why there would be two pages dedicated to the equestrian.
> What exactly are these alleged equestrian stories about?
Dunno, its just a minor sport after all, but I did see the heading on
both pages had Equestrian on them. Appearently some little aussie
battler by the name of Andrew Hoy is pretty good. Stopped reading
after that
I don't seem
> to be able to find them on the Courier Mail website and it takes a few
> days before the printed edition arrives here. Are you sure it's not
> just the racing pages you are looking at?
>
> As for the brief coverage of the Super 14 final that is to be expected
> since there are no Australian sides in the final. It was very similar
> here a few years ago when there was no NZ team in the final. In fact as
> I recall there were no NZ teams in the semis at all that year, so it
> was a pretty quiet couple of weeks of Super 12 coverage all round, as
> it was then.
So, if they didnt cover the rugby what was in the papers. Or did they
cancel the paper for a couple of weeks?
Stex
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037261 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 23:27 |
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Stex wrote:
> Ernest_the_Sheep [at] hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > So Ernie, can you enlighten me on why the Courier Mail see's fit to
> > > dedicate 2 pages to Equestrian and only one page to Rugby Union in
> > > todays sports section. Why the brief coverage when the Super 14 final
> > > is on today?
> >
> > I don't know why there would be two pages dedicated to the equestrian.
> > What exactly are these alleged equestrian stories about?
>
> Dunno, its just a minor sport after all, but I did see the heading on
> both pages had Equestrian on them. Appearently some little aussie
> battler by the name of Andrew Hoy is pretty good. Stopped reading
> after that
Yes I would imagine that such stories would not be read by a very wide
audience. I'll just have to wait till this edition of the paper arrives
here since you don't appear to be very helpful. It's obviously not very
big news over there as I can find little reference to it on the various
news websites. Of course in NZ it would be impossible to miss as it
would be the headline news on all bulletins.
>
> I don't seem
> > to be able to find them on the Courier Mail website and it takes a few
> > days before the printed edition arrives here. Are you sure it's not
> > just the racing pages you are looking at?
> >
> > As for the brief coverage of the Super 14 final that is to be expected
> > since there are no Australian sides in the final. It was very similar
> > here a few years ago when there was no NZ team in the final. In fact as
> > I recall there were no NZ teams in the semis at all that year, so it
> > was a pretty quiet couple of weeks of Super 12 coverage all round, as
> > it was then.
>
> So, if they didnt cover the rugby what was in the papers. Or did they
> cancel the paper for a couple of weeks?
Of course there was plenty of coverage of the rugby, just not a great
deal dedicated to the Super 12 semis and final.
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| Re: SEMI-OT: WTF IS GOING ON IN OZ? [message #1037644 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 17:26 |
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Martyn W wrote:
> Will_S wrote:
>
> > As for me I, well soccer bores me to tears and I doubt if I will watch a
> > match
>
> I enjoy it and following last night's result (England 1-2 Belarus), I
> think I'm going to enjoy the world cup immensely. The first game will
> be crucial and if Paraguay can get a result, then Sven's last match in
> charge could be against his fellow countrymen, a team England have
> failed to beat for about 200 years.
Stick to rugby Martyn, it's probably better all round that you
don't venture too far out of The Land of Make Believe...
UD
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