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| Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035277] |
Sun, 28 May 2006 23:08 |
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We're about to see how much integrity the driver tester crybaby has.
Pernice's ball clearly moved at address over that putt, and if he
doesn't call it, he's full of shit. You hear that, Tommy Boy? That's
Tiger laughing his ass off somewhere...
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035316 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 00:55 |
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On 28 May 2006 14:08:49 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>We're about to see how much integrity the driver tester crybaby has.
>Pernice's ball clearly moved at address over that putt, and if he
>doesn't call it, he's full of shit. You hear that, Tommy Boy? That's
>Tiger laughing his ass off somewhere...
Didn't see it originally, but CBS replayed it and said there was a
ruling that he did touch the ball, but its position did not change,
therefore no penalty.
Craig
"Nothing matters but the weekend, from a Tuesday point of view."
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035325 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 01:42 |
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zipper40hDIESPAMMERS [at] netscape.net wrote:
> On 28 May 2006 14:08:49 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>We're about to see how much integrity the driver tester crybaby has.
>>Pernice's ball clearly moved at address over that putt, and if he
>>doesn't call it, he's full of shit. You hear that, Tommy Boy? That's
>>Tiger laughing his ass off somewhere...
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> Didn't see it originally, but CBS replayed it and said there was a
> ruling that he did touch the ball, but its position did not change,
> therefore no penalty.
>
> Craig
>
> "Nothing matters but the weekend, from a Tuesday point of view."
if you watch the replay again you'll see he was looking at the hole when
his putter touched the ball. He stated to the rules official that he
didn't know that he had even touched the ball. So, how could he know
that he had possibly moved it. Don't listen to Lanny W, he's an idiot
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035326 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 01:51 |
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zipper40hDIESPAMMERS [at] netscape.net wrote:
> On 28 May 2006 14:08:49 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >We're about to see how much integrity the driver tester crybaby has.
> >Pernice's ball clearly moved at address over that putt, and if he
> >doesn't call it, he's full of shit. You hear that, Tommy Boy? That's
> >Tiger laughing his ass off somewhere...
>
> Didn't see it originally, but CBS replayed it and said there was a
> ruling that he did touch the ball, but its position did not change,
> therefore no penalty.
Agree with the ruling, they got it right - the ball came back to rest
in its original position. But I don't believe for a nanosecond that
Peeeernice didn't either see or feel the contact...no matter what the
guy in the previous post says. His mannerisms when questioned by the
rules official betrayed guilty resignation - exaggerated body english,
seemed totally nervous and frustrated. He touched it, he knew he
touched it, it's just fortunate for him that it came back to rest in
the original location.
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035328 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 01:57 |
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Ben. wrote:
> zipper40hDIESPAMMERS [at] netscape.net wrote:
>> On 28 May 2006 14:08:49 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> We're about to see how much integrity the driver tester crybaby has.
>>> Pernice's ball clearly moved at address over that putt, and if he
>>> doesn't call it, he's full of shit. You hear that, Tommy Boy? That's
>>> Tiger laughing his ass off somewhere...
>> Didn't see it originally, but CBS replayed it and said there was a
>> ruling that he did touch the ball, but its position did not change,
>> therefore no penalty.
>
> Agree with the ruling, they got it right - the ball came back to rest
> in its original position. But I don't believe for a nanosecond that
> Peeeernice didn't either see or feel the contact...no matter what the
> guy in the previous post says. His mannerisms when questioned by the
> rules official betrayed guilty resignation - exaggerated body english,
> seemed totally nervous and frustrated. He touched it, he knew he
> touched it, it's just fortunate for him that it came back to rest in
> the original location.
>
Im pretty convinced it did shift ie: not return to the original position.
To the best of my eyesight only seing it twice (original and one slowmo)
it moved about 1/4 of a ball diameter.
Luckily it didnt have an impact on the final result. But it gives me a
rather bad feeling.
As mentioned someplace else, Im happy theres people like Darren Clarke,
that doesnt just play by the rules, but by the spirit of golf!
(Im referring to his own decision on 9th hole on the final day of Irish
open last week)
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035329 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 02:06 |
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S=F8ren Jacobsen wrote:
> Ben. wrote:
>=20
>> zipper40hDIESPAMMERS [at] netscape.net wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 May 2006 14:08:49 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're about to see how much integrity the driver tester crybaby has.=
>>>> Pernice's ball clearly moved at address over that putt, and if he
>>>> doesn't call it, he's full of shit. You hear that, Tommy Boy? That=
's
>>>> Tiger laughing his ass off somewhere...
>>>
>>> Didn't see it originally, but CBS replayed it and said there was a
>>> ruling that he did touch the ball, but its position did not change,
>>> therefore no penalty.
>>
>>
>> Agree with the ruling, they got it right - the ball came back to rest
>> in its original position. But I don't believe for a nanosecond that
>> Peeeernice didn't either see or feel the contact...no matter what the
>> guy in the previous post says. His mannerisms when questioned by the
>> rules official betrayed guilty resignation - exaggerated body english,=
>> seemed totally nervous and frustrated. He touched it, he knew he
>> touched it, it's just fortunate for him that it came back to rest in
>> the original location.
>>
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> Im pretty convinced it did shift ie: not return to the original positio=
n.
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> To the best of my eyesight only seing it twice (original and one slowmo=
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> it moved about 1/4 of a ball diameter.
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> Luckily it didnt have an impact on the final result. But it gives me a =
> rather bad feeling.
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> As mentioned someplace else, Im happy theres people like Darren Clarke,=
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> that doesnt just play by the rules, but by the spirit of golf!
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> (Im referring to his own decision on 9th hole on the final day of Irish=
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> open last week)
Hey Ben, I've got it on TIVO. Want me to send you a tape so you can=20
watch it again to see that you don't have any idea what you're talking=20
about. The guy's playing the last couple of holes in a PGA golf=20
tournament and some rules nimrod walks up to him and asks him if he=20
broke the rules. The only emotion that I saw was that he was perplexed=20
by the question. He said to the the rules guy "I didn't see it move, if=20
you saw it move I'll take the penalty". The rules guys said,=20
paraphasing, "it didn't move". So, wtf is he supposed to do?
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035338 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 03:04 |
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S=F8ren Jacobsen wrote:
> Im pretty convinced it did shift ie: not return to the original position.
Since I'm not hard up enough to TIVO the Fed-Ex St Jude, I can only say
from watching the replay that it looked like it came to rest in the
original location. But that is not my contention. I think he knew it
moved and he simply chose to take the path of deny, deny, deny. Who
are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes? When faced with the
call, he went all Ronald Reagan on us - I can't recall, I don't
rememeber, I was not aware.
> To the best of my eyesight only seing it twice (original and one slowmo)
> it moved about 1/4 of a ball diameter.
There's a total fucking dork peddling TIVO copies of the event - get
with him, he'll send you a copy.
> Luckily it didnt have an impact on the final result. But it gives me a
> rather bad feeling.
Agreed, especially since he was the one who threw his fellow golfers
under the bus with his charge for driver testing.
> As mentioned someplace else, Im happy theres people like Darren Clarke,
> that doesnt just play by the rules, but by the spirit of golf!
>
> (Im referring to his own decision on 9th hole on the final day of Irish
> open last week)
Amen - Pernice could take a cue from DC.
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035345 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 03:58 |
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On 28 May 2006 16:51:35 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> His mannerisms when questioned by the
>rules official betrayed guilty resignation - exaggerated body english,
>seemed totally nervous and frustrated. He touched it, he knew he
>touched it, it's just fortunate for him that it came back to rest in
>the original location.
Which are attributes that many an innocent person has after being
accused of cheating.
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035356 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 04:38 |
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On 28 May 2006 16:51:35 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > His mannerisms when questioned by the
> >rules official betrayed guilty resignation - exaggerated body english,
> >seemed totally nervous and frustrated. He touched it, he knew he
> >touched it, it's just fortunate for him that it came back to rest in
> >the original location.
>
> Which are attributes that many an innocent person has after being
> accused of cheating.
First off, he wasn't accused of anything, he was asked what happened.
Secondly, if you ask me the same question, and I am innocent, I say
"Nope, didn't happen. You can look at all the tape you want, I didn't
touch that ball, it didn't move, let's play on." He knew he touched
it, and instead of issuing a confident statement to the contrary like
Appleby did a couple of weeks ago, he looked like a deer in headlights
- BUSTED. But fortunately for him the rules were in his favor on this
one.
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035382 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 12:43 |
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"Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148870286.533655.23940 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> Howard Brazee wrote:
>> On 28 May 2006 16:51:35 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > His mannerisms when questioned by the
>> >rules official betrayed guilty resignation - exaggerated body english,
>> >seemed totally nervous and frustrated. He touched it, he knew he
>> >touched it, it's just fortunate for him that it came back to rest in
>> >the original location.
>>
>> Which are attributes that many an innocent person has after being
>> accused of cheating.
>
> First off, he wasn't accused of anything, he was asked what happened.
> Secondly, if you ask me the same question, and I am innocent, I say
> "Nope, didn't happen. You can look at all the tape you want, I didn't
> touch that ball, it didn't move, let's play on." He knew he touched
> it, and instead of issuing a confident statement to the contrary like
> Appleby did a couple of weeks ago, he looked like a deer in headlights
> - BUSTED. But fortunately for him the rules were in his favor on this
> one.
>
Look who Pernices best friend and confidant is ? The suspended for cheating
Singh on the Asian tour...with the same whiney bitching attitude...
The only thing in principle wrong was the way the official(s) handled it. If
they planned on having him review a tape prior to signing the card they
could have waited rather than raise an undecided issue during play.
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035410 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 17:13 |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006, W wrote:
>
> "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1148870286.533655.23940 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Howard Brazee wrote:
>>> On 28 May 2006 16:51:35 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> His mannerisms when questioned by the
>
> The only thing in principle wrong was the way the official(s) handled it. If
> they planned on having him review a tape prior to signing the card they
> could have waited rather than raise an undecided issue during play.
I orignally thought that also but then I thought, if he does get a
penalty wouldn't the rest of the field want to know before a round
is over. That might make a big difference on what shots are played
the last few holes.
>
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035459 ] |
Tue, 30 May 2006 00:52 |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 01:57:29 +0200, Søren Jacobsen
<kurgan [at] spammergoaway_kurgan.dk> wrote:
>Luckily it didnt have an impact on the final result. But it gives me a
>rather bad feeling.
It did change the final result. The guys (John Cook and Chris Cox)
who were T3 would have been T2. More money ($86,667 more) and more
WGR points for them, and they are both in the range where such things
are important in determining whether they have a card next year.
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| Re: Through the halls of karma.... [message #1035463 ] |
Tue, 30 May 2006 01:16 |
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multi wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006 01:57:29 +0200, S=F8ren Jacobsen
> <kurgan [at] spammergoaway_kurgan.dk> wrote:
> >Luckily it didnt have an impact on the final result. But it gives me a
> >rather bad feeling.
>
> It did change the final result. The guys (John Cook and Chris Cox)
> who were T3 would have been T2. More money ($86,667 more) and more
> WGR points for them, and they are both in the range where such things
> are important in determining whether they have a card next year.
Cook will have a place to play next year...it's called the Champions
Tour.
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