| Question About Nike Ignite Stock Fujikura Shafts [message #1035170] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 01:05 |
|
WIth the Nike Sasquatch and clones now hitting the market, I see a fair
number of Nike Ignite drivers for sale on eBay.
There seems to be some concern, however, among current Ignite users
about the quality of the stock Fujikura shafts that come with
it.....the negative reviews remind me of what I tend to hear about
Callaway stock shafts.
Are the Nike Ignite stock shafts really that bad, and how different are
the specs than a Vista Pro of the Speeder shaft that Fujikura makes for
TItleist? I love that shaft....
Thanks
|
|
|
| Re: Question About Nike Ignite Stock Fujikura Shafts [message #1035383 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 13:05 |
|
Cal Golfer wrote:
> WIth the Nike Sasquatch and clones now hitting the market, I see a fair
> number of Nike Ignite drivers for sale on eBay.
>
> There seems to be some concern, however, among current Ignite users
> about the quality of the stock Fujikura shafts that come with
> it.....the negative reviews remind me of what I tend to hear about
> Callaway stock shafts.
>
> Are the Nike Ignite stock shafts really that bad, and how different are
> the specs than a Vista Pro of the Speeder shaft that Fujikura makes for
> TItleist? I love that shaft....
>
> Thanks
>
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the stock Fujikura shaft on the Ignite
was rebadged!
Its pretty obvious that they did it with the Sasquatch. The difference
between SQ Diamana and the real Diamana was quite stark (for me anyhow)!
The one thing I noticed about the real Diamana against the rebadged one
was that although it felt very much like a rubber band, no matter how
hard I attempted to hit the ball or load the shaft, it still remained
stable. There was absolutely no 'guiding' involved. The re-badged
version on the other hand was the opposite. It felt much stiffer from
the outset.
"The Nike Diamana shaft is a cheaper version of the high end Diamana.
Nike laid a million shaft order on the table and Mitsubishi gave Nike an
exclusive on the hot Diamana brand. It was a win-win proposition for
both Nike and Mitsubishi. Nike gets to take advantage of the Tiger
magic. With Tiger playing Nike and Diamana, why wouldn’t you want to
have every club in your line look like Tiger’s club? Mitsubishi gets
instant recognition as a supplier to a major OEM and a bulging bank account
It is interesting to speculate how this deal will play out. If it turns
out that the Nike Diamana is a good shaft that performs well, both
companies could end up winners. The fact that a shaft is inexpensive is,
as Chronicles readers know, not a show stopper. Some inexpensive shafts
turn out to be very high quality and gain a cult following. I have
frequently mentioned Aerotech as one of those companies. But if the Nike
Diamanas turn out to be just another cheap proprietary shaft painted up
with graphics that make them look better than they play, the outcome
could be the opposite. As my grandma used to say, “The proof is in the
pudding.”
The Nike Diamana will also be the stock graphite shaft in Nike Slingshot
irons. It will replace the proprietary Nike shaft of unknown manufacture
in the 2005 Slingshots. Stay tuned."
Source: http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0510oct/chronicle.htm
As for your Titliest Speeder 757 (which is a rebadged Vista Pro 70,
http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0310Oct/golfeqpt.htm) versus the Nike
Ignite I honestly have no idea. Judging by the deal Titliest/Fujikura
deal though it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Ignite shaft was just
a modified Vista Pro.
After all, the Vista Pro series is one of cheaper shafts in the Fujikura
range while the Speeder series is one of the more expensive ones ($129
AUSD versus $425 AUSD,
http://www.golfcomponents.com.au/components/categories.asp?c ID=61).
Nonetheless, the main technical differences are in torque (4.0 versus
2.5) and bend point (M versus M/H). I'm not saying that the Vista Pro 70
is a cheaper version of the Speeder though (their profiles are probably
quite different), they just seem very close technically and it would
make commercial sense for Nike to source a cheaper shaft and then seek
to 'customise' it to produce a similar (but not perfect) effect.
The softness that many people associate with Nike shafts is probably due
to Nike understanding that most amateurs tend to overestimate their
driving distance and swing speed which means that in order to maximise
real driving distances, a softer flex is needed. However, to maintain
the confidence of the average male the shaft is then re-labled so that
it seems as though it is a stiffer flex than it actually is. (On the
other hand, there are other manufacturers who value accuracy over
distance and hence their shafts seem stiffer than that of other
manufacturer. Hence, we're left in this rediculous situation today where
we don't know what flex shaft we're actually picking up (that's my
theory anyhow :)))
The fact of the matter is though, most amateurs aren't good/consistent
enough to determine the difference between what's real and what's not.
Binh.
|
|
|
| Re: Question About Nike Ignite Stock Fujikura Shafts [message #1035423 ] |
Mo, 29 Mai 2006 18:45 |
|
|
Post removed (X-No-Archive: yes)
|
|
|
| Re: Question About Nike Ignite Stock Fujikura Shafts [message #1035481 ] |
Di, 30 Mai 2006 02:33 |
|
Peter Strauss wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:05:12 GMT, Binh Nguyen
> <linuxfilesystem [at] yahooo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>As my grandma used to say, “The proof is in the
>>pudding.”
>>
>
> Either you're remembering incorrectly, or your grandma spoke
> incorrectly.
> The correct phrase, which makes more sense that what you quoted above,
> is: "The proof of the puddin's in the eatin' ", as a New Englander
> would say it, meaning that just because something looks or smells good
> doesn't mean it is good, and that you must eat the pudding to find out
> truly what its quality is.
>
> Class dismissed.
>
I'm afraid you're correcting the wrong person here. Those were direct
quotes with Leith Anderson of California Golf Technologies being the
original author.
Binh.
|
|
|
