| Divot with iron problem [message #1033372] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 17:25 |
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I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033375 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 17:40 |
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When I do this it's usually because I'm standing too close to the ball.
YMMV
Bob
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033383 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 18:02 |
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arlenpar [at] rainierconnect.com wrote:
> I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
> ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
> What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
There are too many to make a guess but if you're not even making
consistent contact... you need some lessons.
You're probably setting up "wrong"; using an "improper" grip; don't
have/not maintaining the proper spine angle; swaying on the backswing;
letting your head move; starting the downswing with your hands and
pivoting rather than turning... etc., etc.
This... couldn't possibly help. Take some lessons.
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- gpsman
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033384 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 18:10 |
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> I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
> ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
> What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
I believe this is a basic problem with all novice players...Basically
you have grounded your club prior to contact the the ball...what caused
it..hard to say...could be you lifted your head or dropped your
sholder...The ball location doesn't matter...you ball location will
determine how far or high you will hit it...
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Spidy
Posted via the forums at Newsgab - http://www.newsgab.com/forum/
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033394 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 18:51 |
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arlenpar [at] rainierconnect.com wrote:
> I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
> ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
> What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
Having absolutely no clue what's causing it for you, I find that the
majority of average golfers don't get off their right side (for righties).
Sometimes because of an attempt to lift the ball and sometimes because they
don't understand the importance of the weight shift.
Wayne
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www.nhlfa.com
"There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are
intolerant of other peoples' cultures, and the Dutch."
-Nigel Powers
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033417 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 19:52 |
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arlenpar [at] rainierconnect.com wrote:
> I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
> ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
> What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
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As many causes as there are for a headache.
Do you dip your knees as you swing?
Do you fall backwards as you swing, because you are hitting too hard?
Does your spine angle change dramatically when you start the downswing?
Is the ball too far forward in your stance?
Hitting "fat" is about as common as hitting "over the top". It requires
someone to observe you and determine where the fault lies. Then
appropriate remedies can be suggested. In other words, a lesson or two.
--
Howard U. Dewing
I made up this name. It was a choice between this and Watson deMehneux.
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033423 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 20:02 |
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Spidy wrote:
> > I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
> > ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
> > What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
>
> I believe this is a basic problem with all novice players...Basically
> you have grounded your club prior to contact the the ball...what caused
> it..hard to say...could be you lifted your head or dropped your
> sholder...The ball location doesn't matter...you ball location will
> determine how far or high you will hit it...
Well, of course ball position matters. Disregarding whether or not
the club is being swung properly for a moment, the swing goes in an
arc. The position of the ball has to be before the bottom of the arc,
otherwise one hits the ground first.
Now, without seeing the OP's swing, it's impossible to tell whether the
position of the bottom of the swing arc is incorrect (caused by a
variety of issues, such as poor weight transfer), or is the swing is
fine and the ball position is off.
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033440 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 20:34 |
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Above opinions are correct.. too many possibilities.
- Work on maintaining the flex in your right knee. If you do this.. you
have the posture issue beat.
- Downswing.. is really a reaction to a properly loaded back swing.
- Ensure you turn enough to get your lft shoulder behind the ball.
- From there, swing through the ball with a flat left wrist. In order
to do this, you'll need to continue to turn through the shot. It's very
difficult to hit it fat if your left hand is flat at impact.
Just think " I need to get my hands through the ball before the
clubhead". you'll be surprised how your body reacts to what your mind
envisions.
I use an extremely "soft" grip.. that allows me to retain the angle of
my forearm>>clubshaft longer. Grab a golfball and go to throw it like a
baseball.. now halfway thru stop and look how you use leverage tohold
onto the ball as you throw it. This is how you use leverage in your
grip to hold onto the club with little to no tension.
My first "guess" would be you're swinging with your arms and hands..
arms and hands are supple>> ALWAYS.
-Hero
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033441 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 20:26 |
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swing pattern, angle of approach, seemingly to steep, flatten it until
you are on target.
>mho
>v=83e
>drive 10% less,
>don't discover safety by accident
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033469 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 21:13 |
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"seemingly to steep, flatten it until
you are on target. "
Totally agree with this.. most amatures swing too steep.. prob the #1
reason why most hit it fat.. ontop of the other lists lol
I've since flattened my swing.. night and day.. esp w/ my irons.
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033470 ] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 21:12 |
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Larry Bud wrote:
> Spidy wrote:
>
>>>I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
>>>ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
>>>What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
>>
>>I believe this is a basic problem with all novice players...Basically
>>you have grounded your club prior to contact the the ball...what caused
>>it..hard to say...could be you lifted your head or dropped your
>>sholder...The ball location doesn't matter...you ball location will
>>determine how far or high you will hit it...
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> Well, of course ball position matters. Disregarding whether or not
> the club is being swung properly for a moment, the swing goes in an
> arc. The position of the ball has to be before the bottom of the arc,
> otherwise one hits the ground first.
>
> Now, without seeing the OP's swing, it's impossible to tell whether the
> position of the bottom of the swing arc is incorrect (caused by a
> variety of issues, such as poor weight transfer), or is the swing is
> fine and the ball position is off.
>
To the OP. Take Larry Bud's answer to the bank. If you have a
"consistent" swing, it is about ball position as he describes. If you
don't have a consistent swing, get some lessons from a good coach.
For a band aid fix, from a level lie, try this. Set up with out the
ball, take some nice easy swings and note where the club bottoms out and
where that is relative to the center of your chest.....not your feet.
The trailing edge of the ball should be about a 1/4 inch behind that
spot. Take the same, nice easy swing and watch the ball fly. Above
all, stop trying to hit the ball. Just swing the club, and if the ball
is positioned correctly it will simply get in the way of the club!
That is practically all that that you need to know to hit a golf ball.
Joe
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033592 ] |
Sat, 20 May 2006 22:30 |
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"Hero" <khunt [at] ethus.jnj.com> wrote in message
news:1148065982.039285.59070 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> "seemingly to steep, flatten it until
> you are on target. "
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> Totally agree with this.. most amatures swing too steep.. prob the #1
> reason why most hit it fat.. ontop of the other lists lol
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> I've since flattened my swing.. night and day.. esp w/ my irons.
>
One idiot begets another.
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1033672 ] |
Sun, 21 May 2006 21:15 |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:25:45 -0700, <arlenpar [at] rainierconnect.com>
wrote:
>I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
>ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
>What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
You "often" hit behind. Sounds like me - your main problem might be
hitting fat - or maybe it's having an inconsistent swing. Adjusting
a consistent swing is different from making a swing consistent.
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1035386 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 14:49 |
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When I have this problem, I put the ball a little farther back in my
stance. Try it ........
<arlenpar [at] rainierconnect.com> wrote in news:126rorlrq6l3i11
[at] corp.supernews.com:
> I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
> ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
> What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
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>
--
" Location 75 miles north of New Orleans "
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| Re: Divot with iron problem [message #1035389 ] |
Mon, 29 May 2006 14:55 |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 07:49:57 -0500, Paul David <pauld63 [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:
>When I have this problem, I put the ball a little farther back in my
>stance. Try it ........
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><arlenpar [at] rainierconnect.com> wrote in news:126rorlrq6l3i11
> [at] corp.supernews.com:
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>> I find it difficult to hit down into the ball properly and take a divot
>> ahead of the ball on iron shots. I often hit behind the ball instead.
>> What is the major fault that a golfer that causes this ?
I will remember this - sometimes I get this problem bad, and a quick
fix would be welcome. Of course solving the real cause will be much
more welcome, but if I'm playing, the quick fix will help my score
today.
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