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| Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994953] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 23:26 |
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At this stage they might have even considered Jim Harrick or Whopi
Goldberg, but the braintrusts in Raleigh opted to go Lowe. He was
79-228 in the NBA coaching for the Timberwolves and Grizzlies. He
wasn't the first or the fifth choice, which is surprising. I didn't
think it would be so hard to land a good coach in an ACC school.
Story is here:
http://tinyurl.com/gh7mc
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994954 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 23:48 |
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"Diamondback" <diamondback [at] hotmail.com> wrote
> At this stage they might have even considered Jim Harrick or Whopi Goldberg,
> but the braintrusts in Raleigh opted to go Lowe. He was 79-228 in the NBA
> coaching for the Timberwolves and Grizzlies. He wasn't the first or the fifth
> choice, which is surprising.
The discordian in me hopes he screws up and doesn't get his
degree in time.
CHINESE FIREDRILL!!!!11!!!1!!
Plus he's got no recruiting experience and a top prospect to
try to win back.
> I didn't think it would be so hard to land a good coach in an ACC school.
It isn't, but you'd need to find a no-name coach in a bottom
tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
a huge career step up is needed to justify the risk. For Lowe,
this a way back into head coaching. He was done-for in the
NBA except as an assistant.
Screwed the pooch, NCSU did. Now if Lowe stinks like a big
fart the day after eating cheap sardines and durians, they
will have to hang on to him longer than they normally would,
unless they are willing to let me coach the team.
Between this and Duke's lacrosse team, you've got a sports
management textbook in the making.
--Tedward
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994955 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 00:07 |
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Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
dreamed of giving him"......
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994956 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 03:27 |
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994958 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 04:25 |
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In article <445A7B05.80908 [at] nc.rr.com>,
Charlie Board <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
>
> > tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
>
> That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
> to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
> dreamed of giving him"......
Dave Odom sends his best.
- geoff
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994961 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 04:36 |
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994962 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 05:29 |
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On Fri, 05 May 2006 02:36:53 GMT, Ignatius Thistlewhite
<iggy [at] southtown.org> wrote:
:You wrote:
:
:> In article <445A7B05.80908 [at] nc.rr.com>,
:> Charlie Board <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
:>
:>> Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
:>>
:>> > tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
:>>
:>> That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
:>> to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
:>> dreamed of giving him"......
:>
:> Dave Odom sends his best.
:
:Lucky Dave. The place where Skip is right now lacks post offices.
He'd better be careful. The prize for one NIT
championship is a brand new Caddilac, the prize for two
in a row is a set of steak knoves, the prize for three in a
row is you're fired.
--
/buddha [at] nirvana.net/h:k
George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #994967 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 05:43 |
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005275 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 16:27 |
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"Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote
>> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
>
> That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
> to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
> dreamed of giving him"......
IWPTA "one of the most snake-bit coaches in one of the most
difficult positions to succeed." If he'd had the exact same
record with a more respectable showing against The Big Four,
he'd still be there.
I'm not sure Lowe can cut it. It's a cold day in hell when
NCSU's only chance is for Lowe to not graduate and Huggins
to get a second chance.
That's right: Huggins is the only man who can save NCSU right
now. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
--Tedward
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005276 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 16:58 |
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On Fri, 5 May 2006 10:27:15 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy"
<nospam [at] baconburger.com> wrote:
:"Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote
:
:>> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
:>
:> That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
:> to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
:> dreamed of giving him"......
:
:IWPTA "one of the most snake-bit coaches in one of the most
:difficult positions to succeed." If he'd had the exact same
:record with a more respectable showing against The Big Four,
:he'd still be there.
:
:I'm not sure Lowe can cut it. It's a cold day in hell when
:NCSU's only chance is for Lowe to not graduate and Huggins
:to get a second chance.
:
:That's right: Huggins is the only man who can save NCSU right
:now. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Well, Whittenburg could, but apparently he's
disqualified by actually having experience recruiting
successfully in the ACC. Instead, they hire a guy who's
never coached in college in his life, and has a career
winning percentage as a head coach that would be a
piss-poor batting average.
:
:--Tedward
:
:
:
:
:
--
"It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every
country."
-Hermann Goering
George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005280 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 18:50 |
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Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
> "Diamondback" <diamondback [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>
> > At this stage they might have even considered Jim Harrick or Whopi Goldberg,
> > but the braintrusts in Raleigh opted to go Lowe. He was 79-228 in the NBA
> > coaching for the Timberwolves and Grizzlies. He wasn't the first or the fifth
> > choice, which is surprising.
>
> The discordian in me hopes he screws up and doesn't get his
> degree in time.
>
> CHINESE FIREDRILL!!!!11!!!1!!
>
> Plus he's got no recruiting experience and a top prospect to
> try to win back.
Yeah, no NBA coach or assistant coach would have experience recruiting
High School players. Zero. zip. zilch. ziltch. nada. nil. nowt. sweet
fa.
>
> > I didn't think it would be so hard to land a good coach in an ACC school.
>
> It isn't, but you'd need to find a no-name coach in a bottom
> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
> a huge career step up is needed to justify the risk. For Lowe,
> this a way back into head coaching. He was done-for in the
> NBA except as an assistant.
>
> Screwed the pooch, NCSU did. Now if Lowe stinks like a big
> fart the day after eating cheap sardines and durians, they
> will have to hang on to him longer than they normally would,
> unless they are willing to let me coach the team.
He's got that 1983 thing going for him, so the fans will cut him more
slack. They probably won't start bullying his kids till he makes *six*
NCAA tourneys in a row without beating UNC.
Lowe resigned his last head coaching job after a 0-8 start. I wonder
what the story was there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Lowe
>
> Between this and Duke's lacrosse team, you've got a sports
> management textbook in the making.
BTW, your really ought to read that Tom Wolf novel about a college like
Duke. He nailed it.
>
> --Tedward
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005282 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 19:22 |
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"Mr. Poologic.com" <tadamsmar [at] yahoo.com> wrote
>> > At this stage they might have even considered Jim Harrick or Whopi
>> > Goldberg,
>> > but the braintrusts in Raleigh opted to go Lowe. He was 79-228 in the NBA
>> > coaching for the Timberwolves and Grizzlies. He wasn't the first or the
>> > fifth
>> > choice, which is surprising.
>>
>> The discordian in me hopes he screws up and doesn't get his
>> degree in time.
>>
>> CHINESE FIREDRILL!!!!11!!!1!!
>>
>> Plus he's got no recruiting experience and a top prospect to
>> try to win back.
>
> Yeah, no NBA coach or assistant coach would have experience recruiting
> High School players. Zero. zip. zilch. ziltch. nada. nil. nowt. sweet
> fa.
Lottery troll detected.
>> > I didn't think it would be so hard to land a good coach in an ACC school.
>>
>> It isn't, but you'd need to find a no-name coach in a bottom
>> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
>> a huge career step up is needed to justify the risk. For Lowe,
>> this a way back into head coaching. He was done-for in the
>> NBA except as an assistant.
>>
>> Screwed the pooch, NCSU did. Now if Lowe stinks like a big
>> fart the day after eating cheap sardines and durians, they
>> will have to hang on to him longer than they normally would,
>> unless they are willing to let me coach the team.
>
> He's got that 1983 thing going for him, so the fans will cut him more
> slack. They probably won't start bullying his kids till he makes *six*
> NCAA tourneys in a row without beating UNC.
>
> Lowe resigned his last head coaching job after a 0-8 start. I wonder
> what the story was there.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Lowe
Maybe Lynard Skynard has one more song in them?
>> Between this and Duke's lacrosse team, you've got a sports
>> management textbook in the making.
>
> BTW, your really ought to read that Tom Wolf novel about a college like
> Duke. He nailed it.
Not really, but you can think that if you want.
--Tedward
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005285 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 21:02 |
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George W Harris wrote:
> On Fri, 5 May 2006 10:27:15 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy"
> <nospam [at] baconburger.com> wrote:
>
> :"Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote
> :
> :>> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
> :>
> :> That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
> :> to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
> :> dreamed of giving him"......
> :
> :IWPTA "one of the most snake-bit coaches in one of the most
> :difficult positions to succeed." If he'd had the exact same
> :record with a more respectable showing against The Big Four,
> :he'd still be there.
> :
> :I'm not sure Lowe can cut it. It's a cold day in hell when
> :NCSU's only chance is for Lowe to not graduate and Huggins
> :to get a second chance.
> :
> :That's right: Huggins is the only man who can save NCSU right
> :now. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
>
> Well, Whittenburg could, but apparently he's
> disqualified by actually having experience recruiting
> successfully in the ACC. Instead, they hire a guy who's
> never coached in college in his life, and has a career
> winning percentage as a head coach that would be a
> piss-poor batting average.
Everything is relative. He led the Vancouver Grizzlies to a franchise
best
season of 23-59. How does he compare with Canadian batting averages?
> :
> :--Tedward
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
> --
> "It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a
> democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
> dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
> bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them
> they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
> patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every
> country."
> -Hermann Goering
>
> George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005286 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 21:14 |
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Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
> "Mr. Poologic.com" <tadamsmar [at] yahoo.com> wrote
>
> >> > At this stage they might have even considered Jim Harrick or Whopi
> >> > Goldberg,
> >> > but the braintrusts in Raleigh opted to go Lowe. He was 79-228 in the NBA
> >> > coaching for the Timberwolves and Grizzlies. He wasn't the first or the
> >> > fifth
> >> > choice, which is surprising.
> >>
> >> The discordian in me hopes he screws up and doesn't get his
> >> degree in time.
> >>
> >> CHINESE FIREDRILL!!!!11!!!1!!
> >>
> >> Plus he's got no recruiting experience and a top prospect to
> >> try to win back.
> >
> > Yeah, no NBA coach or assistant coach would have experience recruiting
> > High School players. Zero. zip. zilch. ziltch. nada. nil. nowt. sweet
> > fa.
>
> Lottery troll detected.
What's a lottery troll? I goog it and came up with nuttin. niff.
niffin. small. space. void.
Unless your calling me a little doll with an ugly face, long hair, and
number printed on my chest.
>
> >> > I didn't think it would be so hard to land a good coach in an ACC school.
> >>
> >> It isn't, but you'd need to find a no-name coach in a bottom
> >> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
> >> a huge career step up is needed to justify the risk. For Lowe,
> >> this a way back into head coaching. He was done-for in the
> >> NBA except as an assistant.
> >>
> >> Screwed the pooch, NCSU did. Now if Lowe stinks like a big
> >> fart the day after eating cheap sardines and durians, they
> >> will have to hang on to him longer than they normally would,
> >> unless they are willing to let me coach the team.
> >
> > He's got that 1983 thing going for him, so the fans will cut him more
> > slack. They probably won't start bullying his kids till he makes *six*
> > NCAA tourneys in a row without beating UNC.
> >
> > Lowe resigned his last head coaching job after a 0-8 start. I wonder
> > what the story was there.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Lowe
>
> Maybe Lynard Skynard has one more song in them?
>
> >> Between this and Duke's lacrosse team, you've got a sports
> >> management textbook in the making.
> >
> > BTW, your really ought to read that Tom Wolf novel about a college like
> > Duke. He nailed it.
>
> Not really, but you can think that if you want.
>
> --Tedward
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005287 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 21:22 |
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"Mr. Poologic.com" <tadamsmar [at] yahoo.com> wrote
>> >> > At this stage they might have even considered Jim Harrick or Whopi
>> >> > Goldberg,
>> >> > but the braintrusts in Raleigh opted to go Lowe. He was 79-228 in the
>> >> > NBA
>> >> > coaching for the Timberwolves and Grizzlies. He wasn't the first or the
>> >> > fifth
>> >> > choice, which is surprising.
>> >>
>> >> The discordian in me hopes he screws up and doesn't get his
>> >> degree in time.
>> >>
>> >> CHINESE FIREDRILL!!!!11!!!1!!
>> >>
>> >> Plus he's got no recruiting experience and a top prospect to
>> >> try to win back.
>> >
>> > Yeah, no NBA coach or assistant coach would have experience recruiting
>> > High School players. Zero. zip. zilch. ziltch. nada. nil. nowt. sweet
>> > fa.
>>
>> Lottery troll detected.
>
> What's a lottery troll? I goog it and came up with nuttin. niff.
> niffin. small. space. void.
The NBA has a lottery and a draft. There's no recruiting,
only scouting.
> Unless your calling me a little doll with an ugly face, long hair, and
> number printed on my chest.
I'm not making fun of your appearance. Yet.
--Tedward
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005289 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 21:47 |
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On Fri, 5 May 2006 15:22:23 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy"
<nospam [at] baconburger.com> wrote:
:>> > Yeah, no NBA coach or assistant coach would have experience recruiting
:>> > High School players. Zero. zip. zilch. ziltch. nada. nil. nowt. sweet
:>> > fa.
:>>
:>> Lottery troll detected.
:>
:> What's a lottery troll? I goog it and came up with nuttin. niff.
:> niffin. small. space. void.
:
:The NBA has a lottery and a draft. There's no recruiting,
:only scouting.
Aren't team officials actually forbidden from
contacting high school players?
--
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar." -Wash, 'Serenity'
George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005298 ] |
Sat, 06 May 2006 03:15 |
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Geoffrey F. Green wrote:
> In article <445A7B05.80908 [at] nc.rr.com>,
> Charlie Board <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
>>
>>That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
>>to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
>>dreamed of giving him"......
>
>
> Dave Odom sends his best.
Dave Odom won 2 ACC championships at a school that hadn't
won in over 30 years and hasn't won since. Dave Odom went
to two regional finals. Dave Odom had Wake Forest third
place in the ACC for the entire decade of the 90's.
Herb Sendek finished third or higher exactly one time
in ten years.
That they both got 10 years proves my point.
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005299 ] |
Sat, 06 May 2006 03:30 |
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 01:15:31 GMT, Charlie Board
<charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
:Geoffrey F. Green wrote:
:> In article <445A7B05.80908 [at] nc.rr.com>,
:> Charlie Board <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
:>
:>
:>>Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
:>>
:>>
:>>>tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
:>>
:>>That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
:>>to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
:>>dreamed of giving him"......
:>
:>
:> Dave Odom sends his best.
:
:
:Dave Odom won 2 ACC championships at a school that hadn't
:won in over 30 years and hasn't won since. Dave Odom went
:to two regional finals. Dave Odom had Wake Forest third
:place in the ACC for the entire decade of the 90's.
:Herb Sendek finished third or higher exactly one time
:in ten years.
It could be coaching ability, or it could be that
Dave Odom had the blind luck to stumble over Tim
Duncan.
--
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV!
George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005300 ] |
Sat, 06 May 2006 04:06 |
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Charlie Board wrote:
> Geoffrey F. Green wrote:
>
>> In article <445A7B05.80908 [at] nc.rr.com>,
>> Charlie Board <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
>>> to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
>>> dreamed of giving him"......
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Odom sends his best.
>
>
>
> Dave Odom won 2 ACC championships at a school that hadn't
> won in over 30 years and hasn't won since. Dave Odom went
> to two regional finals. Dave Odom had Wake Forest third
> place in the ACC for the entire decade of the 90's.
> Herb Sendek finished third or higher exactly one time
> in ten years.
>
> That they both got 10 years proves my point.
Correcting myself - Odom got 12 years. And Sendek finished
2nd once, not 3rd.
But let's compare in more detail, because this is
exactly what I was talking about:
Odom Sendek
Years Kept Around 12 10
ACC W-L 101-87 .538 72-88 .450
ACC Titles 2 0
ACC Top 3 finishes 6 2
ACC .500+ seasons 7 4
ACC 10+ win seasons 4 1
NCAA app. 8 5
NCAA Reg Finals 1 0
NCAA Sweet 16 3 1
Nat'l Top 10 finish 3 0
Nat'l Top 20 5 0 or 1
NIT Champ 1 0
Wins over UNC 8 5 ?
Wins over Duke 11 2 ?
Accompl of Recruits:
ACC POY 4 1
1st team All-ACC 9 3
NBA Starters 4 does getting shot count?
Both of these guys resigned with the writing on
the wall. One after 12 seasons of mostly high
achievement at a school with little history
of achievement, the other after 10 seasons
of utter mediocrity at a school used to being
a national power.
Off the top of my head I have a hard time coming up
with *any* Division 1 coach who was treated better
for longer with so little to show for it as Sendek
was at NC State.
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005303 ] |
Sat, 06 May 2006 04:59 |
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George W Harris wrote:
> On Sat, 06 May 2006 01:15:31 GMT, Charlie Board
> <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> :Geoffrey F. Green wrote:
> :> In article <445A7B05.80908 [at] nc.rr.com>,
> :> Charlie Board <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote:
> :>
> :>
> :>>Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
> :>>
> :>>
> :>>>tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
> :>>
> :>>That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
> :>>to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
> :>>dreamed of giving him"......
> :>
> :>
> :> Dave Odom sends his best.
> :
> :
> :Dave Odom won 2 ACC championships at a school that hadn't
> :won in over 30 years and hasn't won since. Dave Odom went
> :to two regional finals. Dave Odom had Wake Forest third
> :place in the ACC for the entire decade of the 90's.
> :Herb Sendek finished third or higher exactly one time
> :in ten years.
>
> It could be coaching ability, or it could be that
> Dave Odom had the blind luck to stumble over Tim
> Duncan.
A little luck helps. But an Odom recruit named Childress
had a *wee* bit to do with one of those titles. And
there wasn't much "blind luck" involved in getting him.
Or Rodney Rogers. Or later, Josh Howard. More to the point,
he brought in Rogers and Childress both within two years
of coming to Wake. Sendek only recruited one player
remotely comparable to either of them in his entire ten
years at NC State.
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| Re: Sidney Lowe takes the NCSU gig [message #1005310 ] |
Sat, 06 May 2006 16:54 |
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Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
> "Charlie Board" <charlieDIESPAMMERSboard [at] nc.rr.com> wrote
>
> >> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
> >
> > That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
> > to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
> > dreamed of giving him"......
>
> IWPTA "one of the most snake-bit coaches in one of the most
> difficult positions to succeed." If he'd had the exact same
> record with a more respectable showing against The Big Four,
> he'd still be there.
>
> I'm not sure Lowe can cut it. It's a cold day in hell when
> NCSU's only chance is for Lowe to not graduate and Huggins
> to get a second chance.
>
> That's right: Huggins is the only man who can save NCSU right
> now. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
>
> --Tedward
Hey, I'd like to see NC State return to power just as much as the next
guy, but Sendek had a tough row to hoe. People forget just how much in
the cellar NC State was when Sendek came. Les ran the program into the
ground, with help from academic recruiting standards imposed that were
at least for a short while higher than almost any public university.
Sendek came into a demoralized program with little talent and not much
momentum to recruit on.
In my opinion, it would only be fair to erase Sendek's first 4 or 5
years and only count the last half of his tenure. I haven't run the
numbers, but I expect it would be pretty good. Agree or not, you have
to admit that Sendek being under fire in 2006 did not hinge on wither
he was 2-14 vs 10-6 in 1997.
Let's not forget that State has to recruit under the shadow of Duke and
Carolina. Exactly why would a player choose State over both Duke and
Carolina? Certainly some less talent players might choose State so
they can start earlier in their career. Perhaps State can pick off
some top talent, but not as easily nor as often as Duke or Carolina.
I've been a State fan since I was a kid, but if my own son were good
enough to be recruited by both Duke and NC State, I have to admit I
might be tempted to suggest going to Duke in his own self-interest.
If you look at the last 6 years of Sendek's time at State, it's not
great, but not bad either. He finished as high as 2nd and got two
trips to the ACC championship. Not bad at all considering 3 national
champions came from the ACC in that time.
State's difficulty finding a replacement coach, even with $2 million to
throw around shows that coaches realize what we overlook. If it were
no harder than anywhere to return to prominance at NCSU, we would have
had a replacement coach in 3 days.
If only we had another David Thompson.
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"TechGuy" <randy_rowell [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>> >> tier conference. After dragging Sendek naked through gravel,
>> >
>> > That's a funny way way to spell "giving Sendek 5-6 more years
>> > to be mediocre than any serious bigtime program would've
>> > dreamed of giving him"......
>>
>> IWPTA "one of the most snake-bit coaches in one of the most
>> difficult positions to succeed." If he'd had the exact same
>> record with a more respectable showing against The Big Four,
>> he'd still be there.
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>> I'm not sure Lowe can cut it. It's a cold day in hell when
>> NCSU's only chance is for Lowe to not graduate and Huggins
>> to get a second chance.
>>
>> That's right: Huggins is the only man who can save NCSU right
>> now. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
>
> Hey, I'd like to see NC State return to power just as much as the next
> guy, but Sendek had a tough row to hoe.
I couldn't agree with you more.
--Tedward
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