| Wright-Taylor...... [message #994599] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 01:30 |
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People are going to be shocked when the jab of Jermaine Taylor defeats the
akward style of Winky Wright.
Wright isn't as tough as Taylor. Wright was able to bully blown up
welterweight Trinidad and Mosley, but can he be tougher than a true
middleweight like Taylor?
I know for a fact that Hopkins is tougher than Wright, and look what Taylor
did to Hopkins = outboxed him.
Will it be easy for Taylor? Hell no because Wright is a hall of fame caliber
technician.
Jermain Taylor W12(115-113) over Winky Wright
Scar TKO
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #994660 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 14:20 |
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> Jermain Taylor W12(115-113) over Winky Wright
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> Scar TKO
I'm also picking Taylor because Wright showed signs of aging in the Solimon
fight. The reason Wright's people lobbied so hard to make this fight as soon
as possible while Jermain's promotor DiBella tried to delay it is because
both sides know Taylor is improving while Winky is starting to slow down.
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #994676 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 17:14 |
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"D. Flynn" <gunk2 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1e16g.3981$HN3.2718 [at] trndny01...
> >
>> Jermain Taylor W12(115-113) over Winky Wright
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>> Scar TKO
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> I'm also picking Taylor because Wright showed signs of aging in the
> Solimon fight. The reason Wright's people lobbied so hard to make this
> fight as soon as possible while Jermain's promotor DiBella tried to delay
> it is because both sides know Taylor is improving while Winky is starting
> to slow down.
I dont think Wright is slowing down, Soliman is just a punching machine.
What I see is Winky's jab stopping Jermain's jab. Early on, Joppy stopped
Jermain's jab with his own, and Jermain admitted this. Once Joppy got
popped he went into survival mode. Wright is a very strong middleweight,
thats where Tito underestimated him, thinking he was a natural 154lber, no,
Wright only stayed there because there was never any money in the
middleweights during his time so he tried to coax the welters to come up.
DiBella was delaying because Taylor is not a big draw yet and he wanted to
get some more paydays and build his name up first. Lastly, Wright is a very
active fighter, unlike Hopkins who barely throws 200 punches per fight.
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #994726 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 01:17 |
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The fight is going to be jab-jab-jab...jab-jab....jab (and an
occasional 1-2).
I don't think it'll be very exciting, but it'll probably be better than
either of the Hopkins-Taylor fights.
I give the edge to Winky Wright (116-112).
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #994741 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 02:18 |
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"D. Flynn" <gunk2 [at] verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1e16g.3981$HN3.2718 [at] trndny01...
> >
>> Jermain Taylor W12(115-113) over Winky Wright
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>> Scar TKO
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> I'm also picking Taylor because Wright showed signs of aging in the
> Solimon fight. The reason Wright's people lobbied so hard to make this
> fight as soon as possible while Jermain's promotor DiBella tried to delay
> it is because both sides know Taylor is improving while Winky is starting
> to slow down.
>
Wright also had a nasty cold at the time of the Solimon fight. He was
blowing snot out of his nose at the end of every round.
Raj
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #994742 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 02:23 |
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"garrubal" <garrubal [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146698231.100932.299490 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> The fight is going to be jab-jab-jab...jab-jab....jab (and an
> occasional 1-2).
> I don't think it'll be very exciting, but it'll probably be better than
> either of the Hopkins-Taylor fights.
>
> I give the edge to Winky Wright (116-112).
>
I don't think Taylor is in the same class as Wright. Wright is technically
a very solid fighter. His main flaw is the lack of knockout power. Taylor
is almost amateurish by comparison. It's going to be a dull fight but
Wright should win unless there's another bad decision (not out of the
question since Taylor's easier to market than Wright is).
Raj
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #1005065 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 21:24 |
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> I don't think Taylor is in the same class as Wright. Wright is
> technically
> a very solid fighter. His main flaw is the lack of knockout power.
> Taylor is almost amateurish by comparison. It's going to be a dull fight
> but Wright should win unless there's another bad decision (not out of the
> question since Taylor's easier to market than Wright is).
>
> Raj
I also think it will be hard for Jermain to get his feet set to unleash his
power. Hard to get set when you are always on the defense. Although Tarver
beat Johnson, it was hard for him to get set and unload power, he had to
pitty pat a lot because Johnson doesnt stop punching. Jermain is going to
have to deal with that jab and occasional left hand all night.
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #1005086 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 04:11 |
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> I don't think Taylor is in the same class as Wright. Wright is
> technically a very solid fighter. His main flaw is the lack of knockout
> power. Taylor is almost amateurish by comparison. It's going to be a
> dull fight but Wright should win unless there's another bad decision (not
> out of the question since Taylor's easier to market than Wright is).
>
> Raj
Taylor certainly looked amateurish in the first Hopkins fight but much
improved in the rematch. I don't deny that Winky's experience will make him
the favorite; I just have a hunch Taylor's style and power will lead to an
upset.
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #1005088 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 05:04 |
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TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
> People are going to be shocked when the jab of Jermaine Taylor defeats the
> akward style of Winky Wright.
I agree, I would be surprised if Taylor won, if he outboxed Wright I'd
be indeed shocked.
>
> Wright isn't as tough as Taylor.
But he's smarter, more versatile and more experienced.
Wright was able to bully blown up
> welterweight Trinidad and Mosley, but can he be tougher than a true
> middleweight like Taylor?
Has Taylor ever felt Felix Trinidad's hooks ramming against his hips or
ribcage and shook it off like nothing?
Trinidad was hardly a blown-up Welterweight when he fought Wright.
>
> I know for a fact that Hopkins is tougher than Wright, and look what Tayl=
or
> did to Hopkins =3D outboxed him.
Taylor outboxed Hopkins? When was this? Had you said he out-jabbed or
out-worked him I could have bought it but outboxed?
>
> Will it be easy for Taylor? Hell no because Wright is a hall of fame cali=
ber
> technician.
Not really, Wright is just an experienced, skilled awkward southpaw
fighter with an highly educated jab and with a good chin and an
extremelly durable ribcage.
>
> Jermain Taylor W12(115-113) over Winky Wright
>
Wright gets a split decision although the judges will do whatever they
can to give the title the win to the younger, better looking, more
marketbale fighter.
Andr=E9
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| Wright-Taylor and reminiscing about Tito. [message #1005089 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 05:18 |
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D=2E Flynn wrote:
> > I don't think Taylor is in the same class as Wright. Wright is
> > technically a very solid fighter. His main flaw is the lack of knockout
> > power. Taylor is almost amateurish by comparison. It's going to be a
> > dull fight but Wright should win unless there's another bad decision (n=
ot
> > out of the question since Taylor's easier to market than Wright is).
> >
> > Raj
>
> Taylor certainly looked amateurish in the first Hopkins fight
And in plenty other fights too.
but much
> improved in the rematch. I don't deny that Winky's experience will make h=
im
> the favorite; I just have a hunch Taylor's style and power will lead to an
> upset.
Taylor's 1-2 and especially his overhand right is certainyl fast and
powerfull, but without his speed to add to his power he's hardly a
greater puncher than Trinidad or Cesar Vasquez.
Taylor's hooks are certainly not as hard as Tito's. It doesn't surprise
me though, Taylor gets off-balance everytime he tries to leverage for a
hook.
Trinidad had real power, he was never a fast handed fighter at all, I
could see half his punches coming and still when he connected we could
see the way opponent's reacted even when he hit them on the arm and
shoulders, he had power and pinpoint accuracy to make up for lack of
hand speed. Tito never overextended on his jabs or hooks, he prefered
to catch his opponent when they (or he) were backing up and catch them
with a short left-hook (or a right-cross delivered up close without
fully extending his arm) off the break always with above average
accuracy.
I always found it amusing how hard Tito punched without fully extending
his arm, without excessive hip rotation or without uncommon hand speed.
He had great balance and good sense of leverage with his legs, he never
really used his hips much or get excessive leverage from rotating the
waist, his power came mostly from his legs and his shoulders, he
rotated his shoulders beautifully in order to get as much weight behind
the punch as possible and always did it in a fairly short range from
his opponent with very compact punching room.
I miss Tito.
Andr=E9
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| Re: Wright-Taylor...... [message #1005091 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 06:36 |
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>But he's smarter, more versatile and more experienced.
What makes you think Wright is smarter than Taylor? What is that based on?
Taylor stepped up and won more rounds than a legend over the course of 24
rounds (Bernard Hopkins).
Taylor was VERY smart in the re-match with Hopkins.
Watch and see what happens to Wright when he feels the jab of Taylor. Taylor
has a harder jab than Vargas and Trinidad at the middleweight level.
Wright does have more experience, but don't forget he lost to the above
average Julio Cesar Vasquez. Fact is, Taylor is a much better fighter than
Vasquez ever was.
Scar TKO
<homem-da-natureza [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146798268.926705.98410 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
TIMOTHY DONATELLI wrote:
> People are going to be shocked when the jab of Jermaine Taylor defeats the
> akward style of Winky Wright.
I agree, I would be surprised if Taylor won, if he outboxed Wright I'd
be indeed shocked.
>
> Wright isn't as tough as Taylor.
Wright was able to bully blown up
> welterweight Trinidad and Mosley, but can he be tougher than a true
> middleweight like Taylor?
Has Taylor ever felt Felix Trinidad's hooks ramming against his hips or
ribcage and shook it off like nothing?
Trinidad was hardly a blown-up Welterweight when he fought Wright.
>
> I know for a fact that Hopkins is tougher than Wright, and look what
> Taylor
> did to Hopkins = outboxed him.
Taylor outboxed Hopkins? When was this? Had you said he out-jabbed or
out-worked him I could have bought it but outboxed?
>
> Will it be easy for Taylor? Hell no because Wright is a hall of fame
> caliber
> technician.
Not really, Wright is just an experienced, skilled awkward southpaw
fighter with an highly educated jab and with a good chin and an
extremelly durable ribcage.
>
> Jermain Taylor W12(115-113) over Winky Wright
>
Wright gets a split decision although the judges will do whatever they
can to give the title the win to the younger, better looking, more
marketbale fighter.
André
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