| DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994543] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 05:31 |
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Well everyone the fight is almost here and i'll have to say i can barely
wait.Just days though so i'll live.Well i've been hearing many
interesting things about this fight on how people believe that at this
point in Oscar's career Mayorga might not be the right opponent.Well
true Mayorga is very strong and also very akward but those are his
strenghs i have yet to hear anyone mention hs weaknesses.So i'll have to
be the first.Well as most true boxing fans know that is that Mayorga at
Welter was a over energized punching machine but as i see at jr.middle
or even middle he simply seems like a fighter who has a short gas tank
there.Sure he fought Picirillo and impressed some, but to even the most
ignorant Mayorga fans or likewise Oscar haters the fight before that it
took a comebacking Trinidad to prove that Mayorga is just a welter who
can beat some jr.middles out there but not world class.This means
Winky,Oscar ,TIto.Think about it Tito's jab was eating Mayorga up now
Tito to his credit has got a very solid jab but be honest it's nowhere
near the league as a Wright jab or even an Oscar jab.Which brings up my
point at hand and that is i really believe the Oscar jab is going to be
the key to victory and i don't really think Mayorga will be able to
escape it or have an answer for it.At the end of the day Oscar will not
only bust Mayorga up with his jab but will also bust him up with some
vicious combination punishment and walk him down and drown him.De La
Hoya by 12th round tko in a very hard but impresssive night.PEACE.
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994550 ] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 07:48 |
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Anyone here from Louisville? I'm going to be there next weekend, and I'd
sure like to see the fight. (Not at your house; at a bar!)
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994581 ] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 18:32 |
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:31:47 -0700, SHAKUR61671 [at] webtv.net (BENI MEZA)
wrote:
>Well everyone the fight is almost here and i'll have to say i can barely
>wait.Just days though so i'll live.Well i've been hearing many
>interesting things about this fight on how people believe that at this
>point in Oscar's career Mayorga might not be the right opponent.Well
>true Mayorga is very strong and also very akward but those are his
>strenghs i have yet to hear anyone mention hs weaknesses.So i'll have to
>be the first.Well as most true boxing fans know that is that Mayorga at
>Welter was a over energized punching machine but as i see at jr.middle
>or even middle he simply seems like a fighter who has a short gas tank
>there.Sure he fought Picirillo and impressed some, but to even the most
>ignorant Mayorga fans or likewise Oscar haters the fight before that it
>took a comebacking Trinidad to prove that Mayorga is just a welter who
>can beat some jr.middles out there but not world class.This means
>Winky,Oscar ,TIto.Think about it Tito's jab was eating Mayorga up now
>Tito to his credit has got a very solid jab but be honest it's nowhere
>near the league as a Wright jab or even an Oscar jab.Which brings up my
>point at hand and that is i really believe the Oscar jab is going to be
>the key to victory and i don't really think Mayorga will be able to
>escape it or have an answer for it.At the end of the day Oscar will not
>only bust Mayorga up with his jab but will also bust him up with some
>vicious combination punishment and walk him down and drown him.De La
>Hoya by 12th round tko in a very hard but impresssive night.PEACE.
Yeah, I'm more excited by this fight than I'd like to admit, but I
still think I'll hold out on shelling the $50.
DLH will weather an early storm, establish his jab and body work by
the middle rounds, and might even catch Mayorga late with a left hook.
Either a late TKO or decision for Oscar, and then a guaranteed
farewell payday against Mayweather in probably the most boring
"superfight" of recent years.
Woo hoo.
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994582 ] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 18:35 |
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 09:32:54 -0700, southpaw <shaka [at] zulu.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:31:47 -0700, SHAKUR61671 [at] webtv.net (BENI MEZA)
>wrote:
>
>>Well everyone the fight is almost here and i'll have to say i can barely
>>wait.Just days though so i'll live.Well i've been hearing many
>>interesting things about this fight on how people believe that at this
>>point in Oscar's career Mayorga might not be the right opponent.Well
>>true Mayorga is very strong and also very akward but those are his
>>strenghs i have yet to hear anyone mention hs weaknesses.So i'll have to
>>be the first.Well as most true boxing fans know that is that Mayorga at
>>Welter was a over energized punching machine but as i see at jr.middle
>>or even middle he simply seems like a fighter who has a short gas tank
>>there.Sure he fought Picirillo and impressed some, but to even the most
>>ignorant Mayorga fans or likewise Oscar haters the fight before that it
>>took a comebacking Trinidad to prove that Mayorga is just a welter who
>>can beat some jr.middles out there but not world class.This means
>>Winky,Oscar ,TIto.Think about it Tito's jab was eating Mayorga up now
>>Tito to his credit has got a very solid jab but be honest it's nowhere
>>near the league as a Wright jab or even an Oscar jab.Which brings up my
>>point at hand and that is i really believe the Oscar jab is going to be
>>the key to victory and i don't really think Mayorga will be able to
>>escape it or have an answer for it.At the end of the day Oscar will not
>>only bust Mayorga up with his jab but will also bust him up with some
>>vicious combination punishment and walk him down and drown him.De La
>>Hoya by 12th round tko in a very hard but impresssive night.PEACE.
>
>Yeah, I'm more excited by this fight than I'd like to admit, but I
>still think I'll hold out on shelling the $50.
Will HBO show the fight on tape the following weekend on the
normal HBO channels?
- Scott Smith: scott [at] sludgereport.org
Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994592 ] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 21:53 |
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"S. Smith" <scott [at] sludgereport.org> wrote in message
news:s5ec52tfult83ivskek975ondvl6t0al1o [at] 4ax.com...
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> Will HBO show the fight on tape the following weekend on the
> normal HBO channels?
They always do show their PPV bouts the following weekend. I do not recall
HBO not showing a major PPV bout the following Saturday (sometimes on
Friday, IIRC). Quite often the replay is incorporated into another boxing
bout being shown 'live'.
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994594 ] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 22:29 |
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I think this fight is fixed.Mayorga will take a dive in the 6th and make
Oscar look good.
J.S
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994602 ] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 01:49 |
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On Mon, 1 May 2006 14:29:10 -0600, Jeff S wrote
(in article <9452-44566F96-361 [at] storefull-3314.bay.webtv.net>):
> I think this fight is fixed.Mayorga will take a dive in the 6th and make
> Oscar look good.
Oh please. Don't even make jokes like that. I honestly don't know what to
think about this one as it's a weird situation. Yes, I'm afraid for Oscar
but I do know he wouldn't take it unless he was absolutely sure he was up for
it. Mayorga running out of gas isn't likely going to happen and he's one
tough cookie. So who do you really pick. I mean, honestly, it's not
something I'm prepared to bet on (yet of course, heck, it's only Monday) yet
I do expect an exciting performance by both.
But as mentioned earlier here, should ODH win and win decisively, then
Mayweather will be the next/last step. I don't think he's up to Floyd but
then again, Oscar really isn't old. It just seems that way because he's been
around for so long. Wow, what a dumb statement that was.
Yes folks, I'm confused on this one and I figure the 50 bucks will be worth
it. It'll be on my PPV and lovin' it ;-)
--
Cheers!
Dennis
Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994612 ] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 03:47 |
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> Yes folks, I'm confused on this one and I figure the 50 bucks will be
> worth
> it. It'll be on my PPV and lovin' it ;-)
this fight isnt as easy as people think, for a few reasons
1) This fight is at 154 lbs, not 160 lbs
2) Mayorga is a very strong 154lber and DLH is not Trinidad
3) Mayorga will be in tremendous shape
4) Mayorga is such an amatuerish and crude fighter he is easily
underestimated as a fighter
5) De La Hoya has been inactive for some time now
6) De La Hoya had trouble with a stronger, but more predictable and
controllable Fernando Vargas
7) Mayorga takes a heck of a shot
8) Oscar always fades in the later rounds, did it against Mosley twice, did
it against Sturm
9) Oscar at 147 was the last REALLY GOOD Oscar and his best weight may have
been 140
10) Oscar has not responded well to body shots, see Mosley and Hopkins
with all that being said, Oscar should really work the jab early, I mean
really work it and keep this guy under control, start picking his shots and
set this guy up for the left hook, he should be able to hold him off for a
decision
Mayorga should work the body from the beginning, dont worry too much about
head shots, and just be unpredictable, in his last fight against Piccirillo,
Mayorga used his jab at times and boxed, he should do this to make DLH think
"what the heck is this fool doing" and then rush him from angles
If DLH cant stay disciplined, it will be a long night
Mayorga KO with body work
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994613 ] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 04:13 |
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> 9) Oscar at 147 was the last REALLY GOOD Oscar and his best weight may have
> been 140
I completely agree with you. His best weight was at 140lbs. He looked
too weakened and gaunt at 130 and too small at 160lbs.
Mayorga is a much better fighter than many give him credit for. He
looks crude and amateurish but that doesn't really mean you don't know
what you are doing. He got the job done against Forrest twice and he
can be very strong, powerful, resilient and one mean mofo. DLH does
not have the size or power of Trinidad at 154lbs and he should simply
stay away from danger and box circles around Mayorga. It will be boring
but .... this is what he has to do to win.
"V"
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994628 ] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 03:57 |
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De La Hoya will win the fight on speed.
> 2) Mayorga is a very strong 154lber and DLH is not Trinidad
Your right, Oscar is faster than Trinidad.
> Mayorga KO with body work
No way. Mayorga doesn't punch as hard as Bernard Hopkins.
The only reason Mayorga wins is because Oscar is past his prime. If this
fight happens 3 years ago, Mayorga easily gets outboxed.
I think Mayorga will have a few good moments because he's tough and crafty,
but Oscar is a hall of fame fighter that even past his prime, will rise to
the occasion and win by TKO 7.
Scar TKO
"sneeke" <dwilliams68 [at] nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:VSy5g.14200$P65.6222 [at] southeast.rr.com...
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>>
>> Yes folks, I'm confused on this one and I figure the 50 bucks will be
>> worth
>> it. It'll be on my PPV and lovin' it ;-)
>
> this fight isnt as easy as people think, for a few reasons
>
> 1) This fight is at 154 lbs, not 160 lbs
> 3) Mayorga will be in tremendous shape
> 4) Mayorga is such an amatuerish and crude fighter he is easily
> underestimated as a fighter
> 5) De La Hoya has been inactive for some time now
> 6) De La Hoya had trouble with a stronger, but more predictable and
> controllable Fernando Vargas
> 7) Mayorga takes a heck of a shot
> 8) Oscar always fades in the later rounds, did it against Mosley twice,
> did it against Sturm
> 9) Oscar at 147 was the last REALLY GOOD Oscar and his best weight may
> have been 140
> 10) Oscar has not responded well to body shots, see Mosley and Hopkins
>
> with all that being said, Oscar should really work the jab early, I mean
> really work it and keep this guy under control, start picking his shots
> and set this guy up for the left hook, he should be able to hold him off
> for a decision
>
> Mayorga should work the body from the beginning, dont worry too much about
> head shots, and just be unpredictable, in his last fight against
> Piccirillo, Mayorga used his jab at times and boxed, he should do this to
> make DLH think "what the heck is this fool doing" and then rush him from
> angles
>
> If DLH cant stay disciplined, it will be a long night
>
>
>
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994722 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 00:24 |
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yaku [at] za.com (yakuza) wrote:
]Anyone here from Louisville? I'm going to be
]there next weekend, and I'd sure like to see the
]fight. (Not at your house; at a bar!)
Jock's Sports Bar and Grill =A0
3423 Beckenridge Lane
Louisville, KY 40220
(502) 491-1199
Nice bar on the east side of the city with several big screen TVs.
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994725 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 01:05 |
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The Sanity Cruzer wrote:
> "S. Smith" <scott [at] sludgereport.org> wrote in message
> news:s5ec52tfult83ivskek975ondvl6t0al1o [at] 4ax.com...
> >
> > Will HBO show the fight on tape the following weekend on the
> > normal HBO channels?
>
> They always do show their PPV bouts the following weekend. I do not recall
> HBO not showing a major PPV bout the following Saturday (sometimes on
> Friday, IIRC). Quite often the replay is incorporated into another boxing
> bout being shown 'live'.
If my memory serves me right, I think the Marco Antonio Barrera-Mzonke
Fana was not shown the following Saturday on HBO. I remember seeing the
(tape-delayed) fight during ODLH's "Boxeo de Oro" on HBO Latino.
For MAB's next PPV show, HBO showed the top two features (MAB-Peden and
Mosley-Cruz). I think that one was shown on a Friday night, and not
even on regular HBO (maybe HBO2 or something like that).
But typically main even of an HBO PPV event is shown the following
Saturday on HBO.
DLH-Mayorga will take place May 6. The replay will probably be shown
just before the Collazo-Hatton fight on May 13.
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994735 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 02:17 |
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> Mayorga is a much better fighter than many give him credit for.
my thoughts exactly, we are not saying that DLH will definitely lose, but I
just think there are a lot of question marks going in to this fight, I mean
I knew Mayorga didnt stand a chance against Tito at 160 and even then he
lasted longer than I expected, I wouldve loved to seen them go at it at 147,
they were monsters at welterweight. 154 may be the right weight and the
right time for Mayorga against DLH
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #994753 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 05:05 |
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S Smith posted:
Will HBO show the fight on tape the following weekend on the normal HBO
channels?
HBO will in all probability show a replay of the fight before the
Ricky Hatton-Luis Collazo fight May 13th.
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #1005048 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 16:58 |
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De La Hoya will be beaten badly, hope he will survive. Well.. maybe not,
after all. He is overhyped loser.
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| Re: DE LA HOYA vs. MAYORGA [message #1005081 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 02:46 |
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Over hyped loser???Wow, the wonders of weed.
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