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| Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994167] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 15:28 |
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http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=6694&more=1
24.04.06- By Geoff McKay: Recently there have been unconfirmed rumors that
Vitali Klitschko is considering a possible comeback. Klitschko, 34, the
elder brother of IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko, announced his retirement
last year after injuries forced him to postpone, and finally cancel a fight
with mandatory challenger Hasim Rahman.
Before Vitali's retirement, the Klitschko brothers had stated publicly that
they sought to hold heavyweight belts simultaneously. After some unexpected
losses by Wladimir that goal looked as though it was out of reach, however
Wladimir's recent destruction of Chris Byrd may have provided some
motivation for Vitali, who was names WBC champion "emeritus" after he
retired. This meant that should he come out of retirement, he would
immediately be named number one contender and be put in line for a title
shot.
It will be interesting to see what this will do to the WBC heavyweight
picture. If Vitali does indeed come out of retirement, there is a
possibility Rahman will have three mandatory challengers out there. First is
Oleg Maskaev, his current number one contender. Next comes Toney, who the
WBC has mandated a mandatory rematch for against the winner of Maskaev
Rahman, and finally Vitaly. With this many challengers it might be prudent
to revert to old school Ultimate Fighting Championship scheduling, where
fighters fought three and four times in an evening.
Eastsideboxing.com is closely following the situation, and will provide
updates if any come available.
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994323 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 15:22 |
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:28:59 -0400, "HardCell" <hard [at] cell.com> wrote:
>http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=6694&more=1
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>24.04.06- By Geoff McKay: Recently there have been unconfirmed rumors that
>Vitali Klitschko is considering a possible comeback. Klitschko, 34, the
>elder brother of IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko, announced his retirement
>last year after injuries forced him to postpone, and finally cancel a fight
>with mandatory challenger Hasim Rahman.
>
>Before Vitali's retirement, the Klitschko brothers had stated publicly that
>they sought to hold heavyweight belts simultaneously. After some unexpected
>losses by Wladimir that goal looked as though it was out of reach, however
>Wladimir's recent destruction of Chris Byrd may have provided some
>motivation for Vitali, who was names WBC champion "emeritus" after he
>retired. This meant that should he come out of retirement, he would
>immediately be named number one contender and be put in line for a title
>shot.
>
>It will be interesting to see what this will do to the WBC heavyweight
>picture. If Vitali does indeed come out of retirement, there is a
>possibility Rahman will have three mandatory challengers out there. First is
>Oleg Maskaev, his current number one contender. Next comes Toney, who the
>WBC has mandated a mandatory rematch for against the winner of Maskaev
>Rahman, and finally Vitaly. With this many challengers it might be prudent
>to revert to old school Ultimate Fighting Championship scheduling, where
>fighters fought three and four times in an evening.
I'd love to see Vitali come out of retirement. Although, there are
serious doubts in my mind that he would be back to his old form.
In any case, it would be interesting to see.
With as questionable as the heavyweight rankings are right now,
if Vitali was in his old form, there is a very good possibility that
both he and Wladimir could hold belts at the same time. That
would be kind of cool to see.
- Scott Smith: scott [at] sludgereport.org
Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994325 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 15:27 |
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S. Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:28:59 -0400, "HardCell" <hard [at] cell.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=6694&more=1
> >
> >24.04.06- By Geoff McKay: Recently there have been unconfirmed rumors that
> >Vitali Klitschko is considering a possible comeback. Klitschko, 34, the
> >elder brother of IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko, announced his retirement
> >last year after injuries forced him to postpone, and finally cancel a fight
> >with mandatory challenger Hasim Rahman.
> >
> >Before Vitali's retirement, the Klitschko brothers had stated publicly that
> >they sought to hold heavyweight belts simultaneously. After some unexpected
> >losses by Wladimir that goal looked as though it was out of reach, however
> >Wladimir's recent destruction of Chris Byrd may have provided some
> >motivation for Vitali, who was names WBC champion "emeritus" after he
> >retired. This meant that should he come out of retirement, he would
> >immediately be named number one contender and be put in line for a title
> >shot.
> >
> >It will be interesting to see what this will do to the WBC heavyweight
> >picture. If Vitali does indeed come out of retirement, there is a
> >possibility Rahman will have three mandatory challengers out there. First is
> >Oleg Maskaev, his current number one contender. Next comes Toney, who the
> >WBC has mandated a mandatory rematch for against the winner of Maskaev
> >Rahman, and finally Vitaly. With this many challengers it might be prudent
> >to revert to old school Ultimate Fighting Championship scheduling, where
> >fighters fought three and four times in an evening.
>
> I'd love to see Vitali come out of retirement. Although, there are
> serious doubts in my mind that he would be back to his old form.
> In any case, it would be interesting to see.
>
> With as questionable as the heavyweight rankings are right now,
> if Vitali was in his old form, there is a very good possibility that
> both he and Wladimir could hold belts at the same time. That
> would be kind of cool to see.
>
>
>
> - Scott Smith: scott [at] sludgereport.org
> Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
> Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com
>From the pain he is apparently still experiencing in his knee, even
after surgery, I don't think he could hold up under the training
regimen for a big fight.
It seems like the knee might be a chronic issue for him, at least too
chronic for championship level boxing. Hopefully, he can just walk
around without too much pain. Barry Bonds seems to have the same thing
to look forward to.
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994342 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 19:12 |
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On 27 Apr 2006 06:27:53 -0700, "pmfan57" <jwragusa [at] aol.com> wrote:
>S. Smith wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:28:59 -0400, "HardCell" <hard [at] cell.com> wrote:
>> >24.04.06- By Geoff McKay: Recently there have been unconfirmed rumors that
>> >Vitali Klitschko is considering a possible comeback. Klitschko, 34, the
>> >elder brother of IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko, announced his retirement
>> >last year after injuries forced him to postpone, and finally cancel a fight
>> >with mandatory challenger Hasim Rahman.
>> I'd love to see Vitali come out of retirement. Although, there are
>> serious doubts in my mind that he would be back to his old form.
>> In any case, it would be interesting to see.
>From the pain he is apparently still experiencing in his knee, even
>after surgery, I don't think he could hold up under the training
>regimen for a big fight.
>
>It seems like the knee might be a chronic issue for him, at least too
>chronic for championship level boxing.
Bummer. It would be nice to see him come back and possibly
have to fight his brother. It'd be an interesting moment for the
sport.
- Scott Smith: scott [at] sludgereport.org
Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994372 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 22:20 |
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S. Smith wrote:
> I'd love to see Vitali come out of retirement. Although, there are
> serious doubts in my mind that he would be back to his old form.
A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?
STRATEGY
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994375 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 23:25 |
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A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?>>>
Are you sure?
RB
NY
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994377 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 23:53 |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
> A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?>>>
>
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> Are you sure?
Come on, the only decent fighter he beat were Corrie Sanders
Kirk Johnson was decent for a time, but he was clearly in the worst
shape of his life when he fought Shitchko.
Maybe I'm wrong, but tell me why.
STRATEGY
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> RB
> NY
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #994392 ] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 10:19 |
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Good assessment, I agree!
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #1005044 ] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 16:52 |
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STRATEGY wrote:
> S. Smith wrote:
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>>I'd love to see Vitali come out of retirement. Although, there are
>>serious doubts in my mind that he would be back to his old form.
>
>
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> A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?
>
> STRATEGY
>
Clearly some american who has never seen Klitschko fight.
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #1005117 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 20:36 |
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Jani Mikkonen wrote:
> STRATEGY wrote:
> > S. Smith wrote:
> >
> >>I'd love to see Vitali come out of retirement. Although, there are
> >>serious doubts in my mind that he would be back to his old form.
> >
> >
> >
> > A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?
> >
> > STRATEGY
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> Clearly some american who has never seen Klitschko fight.
I beg to differ, old bean.
As I responded to Capt. Rob:
Capt. Rob wrote:
> A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?>>>
> Are you sure?
"Come on, the only decent fighter he beat were Corrie Sanders
Kirk Johnson was decent for a time, but he was clearly in the worst
shape of his life when he fought Shitchko.
Maybe I'm wrong, but tell me why."
I've seen him fight at least five times.
now, please explain to me why he should be considered a noteworthy
heavyweight champ? He's just another guy who fell in-between Lewis and
the next real titlist (whoever that may turn out to be)
STRATEGY
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| Re: Vitali comeback rumors mount [message #1005121 ] |
Fri, 05 May 2006 21:24 |
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STRATEGY wrote:
> Jani Mikkonen wrote:
> > STRATEGY wrote:
> > > S. Smith wrote:
> > >
> > >>I'd love to see Vitali come out of retirement. Although, there are
> > >>serious doubts in my mind that he would be back to his old form.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?
> > >
> > > STRATEGY
> > >
> >
> > Clearly some american who has never seen Klitschko fight.
>
>
> I beg to differ, old bean.
>
> As I responded to Capt. Rob:
>
> Capt. Rob wrote:
> > A big stiff robot who never beat anyone?>>>
>
> > Are you sure?
>
> "Come on, the only decent fighter he beat were Corrie Sanders
> Kirk Johnson was decent for a time, but he was clearly in the worst
> shape of his life when he fought Shitchko.
> Maybe I'm wrong, but tell me why."
>
> I've seen him fight at least five times.
>
> now, please explain to me why he should be considered a noteworthy
> heavyweight champ? He's just another guy who fell in-between Lewis and
> the next real titlist (whoever that may turn out to be)
>
>
> STRATEGY
No matter how you look at it, he gave one of the great heavyweights of
recent times a great fight. Fought Lewis on much more even terms than
Rahman did. Even in the fight Rahman won, he was getting beat easily.
It was not very competitive. He just got in a lucky punch.
You can extrapolate from that performance. Who else would have given
Lewis as good a fight?
Now, when a champion retires, very often the younger guy who recently
gave him the tough scrap is moved up to be considered the best. Why
does that seem so strange?
Which other contender should have been ranked higher than Vitali?
Rahman? He got the crap beat out of him by an over the hill Holyfield.
Maybe Byrd? Do you really think he beats Vitali ever, without an
injury?
Vitali dominated Danny Williams, who had KO'd Tyson, and who doesn't
look that bad considering he rather handily beat Audley Harrison.
Byrd lost almost every round to Vitali, and of course decisively lost
every round to Wlad, but that's another story.
Joe
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