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| Taking cue on airplane [message #984050] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 16:47 |
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My son's going to visit Mom for a few weeks. He wants to take his cue,
a $300 Clint Putnam. I'm a little nervous about putting that cue in the
hands of airport baggage handlers. Should I be?
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984062 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 18:02 |
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Dave, I built a 1/4" plywood box, with a latch and lock, for
transporting my 2x4 Guiseppe case with cues inside to Las Vegas a
couple of years ago. It has since made 6 or 8 airplane trips with
nearry a mishap. It took a single 2' x 4' sheet of thin ply and just a
couple of days to put together .... of course I had to paint it ....
decorate it .... sand the egdes round ... coat both inside and out with
Epoxy .... and add a shoulder strap ... but my therapist says I am
dealing well with it !!!
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984063 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 18:03 |
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Dave, I built a 1/4" plywood box, with a latch and lock, for
transporting my 2x4 Guiseppe case with cues inside to Las Vegas a
couple of years ago. It has since made 6 or 8 airplane trips with
nearry a mishap. It took a single 2' x 4' sheet of thin ply and just a
couple of days to put together .... of course I had to paint it ....
decorate it .... sand the egdes round ... coat both inside and out with
Epoxy .... and add a shoulder strap ... but my therapist says I am
dealing well with it !!!
It may have been overkill, but my case and cues have survived. And ...
It does take the worry out of handing over your precious cues to the
gorillas at the airport!
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984066 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 18:28 |
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AteBall48043 wrote:
> Dave, I built a 1/4" plywood box, with a latch and lock, for
> transporting my 2x4 Guiseppe case with cues inside to Las Vegas a
> couple of years ago. It has since made 6 or 8 airplane trips with
> nearry a mishap. It took a single 2' x 4' sheet of thin ply and just a
> couple of days to put together .... of course I had to paint it ....
> decorate it .... sand the egdes round ... coat both inside and out with
> Epoxy .... and add a shoulder strap ... but my therapist says I am
> dealing well with it !!!
>
> It may have been overkill, but my case and cues have survived. And ...
> It does take the worry out of handing over your precious cues to the
> gorillas at the airport!
The kid leaves tomorrow, Bill. Maybe I could have this done by the time
he gets back. :-)
Actually, I'm concerned about theft, not damage.
I understand that if you lock your luggage these days, the friendly TSA
folks may very well break the lock if they want to inspect the contents.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984069 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 19:02 |
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Dhakala wrote:
> My son's going to visit Mom for a few weeks. He wants to take his cue,
> a $300 Clint Putnam. I'm a little nervous about putting that cue in the
> hands of airport baggage handlers. Should I be?
Yep, I travel a lot for work and at least some of my luggage gets lost
about one in ten flights. I have also had stuff well buried in my
luggage and it was still gotten broken. I've even seen my guitar fall
off the baggage cart but it has a pretty good case so it was fine,
although I wasn't until I got to my destination and had a good look.
You might try rolling the cue case up in a bunch of layers of cardboard
and taping the crap out of it with duct tape. If the case is not very
big, try going to the building store and getting a short length of PVC
pipe and a couple caps. That would be almost indestructable.
Lastly, some flights used to allow you to check your bag at gateside
just before you boarded. I haven't tried this for a while so I don't
know if it is still possible. Items checked this way are placed on top
of the pile at the end and taken off first after landing. Call and ask
the airline.
Stephen N.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984073 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 19:15 |
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Dhakala wrote:
> The kid leaves tomorrow, Bill. Maybe I could have this done by the time
> he gets back. :-)
The absolute best way is to ship it seperately via UPS or US mail and
pick it up at the hotel.
> Actually, I'm concerned about theft, not damage.
In that case, buy him a Meucci just for road trips... not only will
nobody steal it, they might feel sorry for him and replace it with...
say... a Dufferin.
David "The practical Hamster" Malone
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984075 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 19:17 |
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Stephen N. wrote:
> Dhakala wrote:
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> > My son's going to visit Mom for a few weeks. He wants to take his cue,
> > a $300 Clint Putnam. I'm a little nervous about putting that cue in the
> > hands of airport baggage handlers. Should I be?
> If the case is not very
> big, try going to the building store and getting a short length of PVC
> pipe and a couple caps. That would be almost indestructable.
It would also look like a very large pipe bomb, wouldn't it? :-)
I'm concerned about the cue vanishing, not getting damaged.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984109 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 21:39 |
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Dhakala wrote:
> Stephen N. wrote:
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>>Dhakala wrote:
>>
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>>>My son's going to visit Mom for a few weeks. He wants to take his cue,
>>>a $300 Clint Putnam. I'm a little nervous about putting that cue in the
>>>hands of airport baggage handlers. Should I be?
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>
>>If the case is not very
>>big, try going to the building store and getting a short length of PVC
>>pipe and a couple caps. That would be almost indestructable.
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> It would also look like a very large pipe bomb, wouldn't it? :-)
Nah, it would simply show up on the screen as a large cylindrical device
with some dynamite shaped objects inside. Nothing to see here, move along.
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> I'm concerned about the cue vanishing, not getting damaged.
As well you should be. There is nothing worse than a vanishing cue.
Can't never find the bloody thing when you need to shoot.
Do you mean getting stolen by handlers or getting lost? I think theft
by handlers is pretty rare, though not unheard of. On the other hand,
it is not so uncommon for bags to be lost. As I mentioned, I travel
quite a lot for work and I have had at least a dozen bags lost. In all
cases, they have managed to locate them and usually I receive them a day
or two late, delivered by the airline.
After the numerous times I have stood at the lost baggage counter I have
a couple of tips from the airlines that can help. The best insurance
against this (in addition to, er insurance) is to mark the hell out of
the item with name, address, a number to call, flight, destination etc.
Mark it on more than one place so that it is very easy to identify
where it is going. Make it distinctive such as putting large stipes of
red duct tape on it so that you can describe it, in case it does get
lost. It makes it easier to identify by the lost and found dept in
Nome, Alaska where your bag ended up.
Most times bags get lost/delayed simply because they could not be
transferred to a connecting flight in time. You can run through the
airport but your bags can't.
Worst connection that I actually made: Vancouver-San Francisco-
Sacramento. 15 minutes to get off my flight from Vancouver and run full
tilt from one end of SFO to the other with a carry-on in one hand and my
guitar in the other. The woman saw me running and had them hold the
door until she checked me through. I was still sweating when we landed
in Sac.
Stephen N.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984116 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 22:11 |
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Dave, I use a Porper travel case, with my 2x4 case wrapped in a towel and
have had no issues whatsoever. I usually fly non-stop on Frontier, and have
had no problems with delayed or misplaced luggage. I don't think much about
theft. Let's face it, if someone wanted it, they'll probably get it, but
you can't lock the checked baggage anyway, unless you request a TSA
inspection while you're standing there. Then, with what you're going to
lock it with, if someone wants to steal it, they will anyway.
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Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bobj [at] cris.com
"Dhakala" <NoPoliticalCalls [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145982532.393298.64470 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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> AteBall48043 wrote:
>> Dave, I built a 1/4" plywood box, with a latch and lock, for
>> transporting my 2x4 Guiseppe case with cues inside to Las Vegas a
>> couple of years ago. It has since made 6 or 8 airplane trips with
>> nearry a mishap. It took a single 2' x 4' sheet of thin ply and just a
>> couple of days to put together .... of course I had to paint it ....
>> decorate it .... sand the egdes round ... coat both inside and out with
>> Epoxy .... and add a shoulder strap ... but my therapist says I am
>> dealing well with it !!!
>>
>> It may have been overkill, but my case and cues have survived. And ...
>> It does take the worry out of handing over your precious cues to the
>> gorillas at the airport!
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> The kid leaves tomorrow, Bill. Maybe I could have this done by the time
> he gets back. :-)
>
> Actually, I'm concerned about theft, not damage.
>
> I understand that if you lock your luggage these days, the friendly TSA
> folks may very well break the lock if they want to inspect the contents.
>
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984118 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 22:23 |
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Hello Dhakala,
The fear of having cue's stolen at the airport is always a fear of
many of the professionals. As far as I know no one has had any of
their cues stolen. I know of a few pro's that went out and bought gun
cases and converted them into travel cue cases. They cut the inside
foam to mold around each cue and make space for other pool playing
items. If you travel with 6 or seven sets of cues look for the gun
case with wheels, its easier to handle. Make sure you buy the case
that is long enough. I hope it helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Whalen
888-735-4642
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984121 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 23:09 |
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Stephen N. wrote:
> Do you mean getting stolen by handlers or getting lost? I think theft
> by handlers is pretty rare, though not unheard of. On the other hand,
> it is not so uncommon for bags to be lost. As I mentioned, I travel
> quite a lot for work and I have had at least a dozen bags lost. In all
> cases, they have managed to locate them and usually I receive them a day
> or two late, delivered by the airline.
I just can't believe this to be true. I used to play in a league in
Spokane, WA. Many of the players were baggage handlers from the
airport. Almost all of them bragged about the new stuff they had
recently stolen or sold. It all came from airport baggage. They were
always trying to sell pool cues or video cameras, etc. They used to
joke that they were in teams of two people. One to lose your luggage
and one to mangle your luggage. Nice guys...just thieves.
Jim W
Tucson
PS Pretty cool today, it's only getting up to 84.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984129 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 01:29 |
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Jim W wrote:
> Stephen N. wrote:
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>> Do you mean getting stolen by handlers or getting lost? I think theft
>> by handlers is pretty rare, though not unheard of. On the other hand,
>> it is not so uncommon for bags to be lost. As I mentioned, I travel
>> quite a lot for work and I have had at least a dozen bags lost. In
>> all cases, they have managed to locate them and usually I receive them
>> a day or two late, delivered by the airline.
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> I just can't believe this to be true. I used to play in a league in
> Spokane, WA. Many of the players were baggage handlers from the
> airport. Almost all of them bragged about the new stuff they had
> recently stolen or sold. It all came from airport baggage. They were
> always trying to sell pool cues or video cameras, etc. They used to
> joke that they were in teams of two people. One to lose your luggage
> and one to mangle your luggage. Nice guys...just thieves.
> Jim W
I often travel as part of a robotics team and everyone has had bags
delayed. Only one guy in recent memory has actually lost something for
good. I've been on well over a hundred planes just for travel to the US
in the last five years or so, including 23 trips to Sacramento through
Seattle, and I have never had anything lost permanently.
Like I say, it often gets lost (10% of the time) but it always seems to
show up somewhere and makes it's way home.
Oh yeah, maybe your definition of nice guys is different than mine.
Ripping people off really ain't that nice. Bragging about it is not
nice or smart.
Stephen N. ---> at least I'm nicer than that...
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984134 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 04:08 |
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"Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:hCs3g.1088$o81.506 [at] edtnps90...
> Lastly, some flights used to allow you to check your bag at gateside just
> before you boarded. I haven't tried this for a while so I don't know if
> it is still possible. Items checked this way are placed on top of the
> pile at the end and taken off first after landing. Call and ask the
> airline.
>
> Stephen N.
>
Gate checking won't work. If you could get it that far, you could carry it
on. You can't go past the security checkpoint with banned items.
Roger
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984135 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 04:14 |
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"Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:shy3g.480$aI4.15 [at] edtnps89...
> Jim W wrote:
>> Stephen N. wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean getting stolen by handlers or getting lost? I think theft
>>> by handlers is pretty rare, though not unheard of. On the other hand,
>>> it is not so uncommon for bags to be lost. As I mentioned, I travel
>>> quite a lot for work and I have had at least a dozen bags lost. In all
>>> cases, they have managed to locate them and usually I receive them a day
>>> or two late, delivered by the airline.
>>
> Stephen N. ---> at least I'm nicer than that...
>
Stolen is a real concern. I've had my bag rifled through many years ago.
There was nothing worth taking, but my colleague had his camera stolen on
the same flight. Also, not too long ago, a colleague was telling me that
she caught a baggage handler sgetting ready to walk out of the terminal with
her husband's very expensive bow. It didn't occur to her at the time what
was happening, and she just approached the guy and said thank you or
something. He was a little flustered, gave it up and disappeared. It
wasn't until later that she realized what almost happened.
Roger - only carries his cue on charter jets.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984136 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 04:15 |
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Stephen N. wrote:
> Do you mean getting stolen by handlers or getting lost? I think theft
> by handlers is pretty rare, though not unheard of. On the other hand,
> it is not so uncommon for bags to be lost.
About 6 in every 1,000 items get "mishandled," according to last year's
statistics. Seems airlines are being more careful since the amount they
have to reimburse you for a lost bag doubled from $1250 to $2500.
The kid finds those odds acceptable. We've procured a suitable box and
buble wrap.
> The best insurance
> against this (in addition to, er insurance) is to mark the hell out of
> the item with name, address, a number to call, flight, destination etc.
Got all of that, including origin and destination contact info.
> Mark it on more than one place so that it is very easy to identify
> where it is going.
OK.
> Make it distinctive such as putting large stipes of red duct tape on it
We used silver duct tape on white box, in a barber pole spiral.
> Most times bags get lost/delayed simply because they could not be
> transferred to a connecting flight in time. You can run through the
> airport but your bags can't.
He has 45 minutes between connections at O'Hare, barring weather
problems.
> I was still sweating when we landed in Sac.
Yeah, that place is more humid than Atlanta! :-)
Thanks for the tips, Steven. I haven't flown since before 9/11.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984137 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 04:17 |
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Roger Orsulak wrote:
> "Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hCs3g.1088$o81.506 [at] edtnps90...
> > Lastly, some flights used to allow you to check your bag at gateside just
> > before you boarded. I haven't tried this for a while so I don't know if
> > it is still possible. Items checked this way are placed on top of the
> > pile at the end and taken off first after landing. Call and ask the
> > airline.
> >
> > Stephen N.
> >
>
> Gate checking won't work. If you could get it that far, you could carry it
> on. You can't go past the security checkpoint with banned items.
> Roger
I may check his two bags and cue box at the curb.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984141 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 05:00 |
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Roger Orsulak wrote:
> "Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hCs3g.1088$o81.506 [at] edtnps90...
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>>Lastly, some flights used to allow you to check your bag at gateside just
>>before you boarded. I haven't tried this for a while so I don't know if
>>it is still possible. Items checked this way are placed on top of the
>>pile at the end and taken off first after landing. Call and ask the
>>airline.
>>
>>Stephen N.
>>
>
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> Gate checking won't work. If you could get it that far, you could carry it
> on. You can't go past the security checkpoint with banned items.
> Roger
Not sure what the regulations are for gateside these days. Lots of
stuff used to be taken past security and checked there that you couldn't
take onboard, for example a baby stroller. I'm not sure but I think I
still see them doing this.
Has anyone actually tried to take a cue on as carry-on lately? You can
still take a small musical instrument on and lots of people are carrying
bottles of liquor on. A 40 pounder of rye would make a better Shillelah
than a pool cue and I'd rather get smacked with a Moooooochi than a jug
of Seagrams. In fact I was smacked a few times by a bottle of rye in my
naive youth.
Stephen N. ---> now I'd rather get smacked by a good single malt...
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984143 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 05:36 |
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Cues are still prohibited items.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bobj [at] cris.com
"Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:fnB3g.490$aI4.20 [at] edtnps89...
> Roger Orsulak wrote:
>
>> "Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hCs3g.1088$o81.506 [at] edtnps90...
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>>>Lastly, some flights used to allow you to check your bag at gateside just
>>>before you boarded. I haven't tried this for a while so I don't know if
>>>it is still possible. Items checked this way are placed on top of the
>>>pile at the end and taken off first after landing. Call and ask the
>>>airline.
>>>
>>>Stephen N.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Gate checking won't work. If you could get it that far, you could carry
>> it on. You can't go past the security checkpoint with banned items.
>> Roger
>
> Not sure what the regulations are for gateside these days. Lots of stuff
> used to be taken past security and checked there that you couldn't take
> onboard, for example a baby stroller. I'm not sure but I think I still
> see them doing this.
>
> Has anyone actually tried to take a cue on as carry-on lately? You can
> still take a small musical instrument on and lots of people are carrying
> bottles of liquor on. A 40 pounder of rye would make a better Shillelah
> than a pool cue and I'd rather get smacked with a Moooooochi than a jug of
> Seagrams. In fact I was smacked a few times by a bottle of rye in my
> naive youth.
>
> Stephen N. ---> now I'd rather get smacked by a good single malt...
>
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984148 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 11:55 |
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"Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:fnB3g.490$aI4.20 [at] edtnps89...
> Roger Orsulak wrote:
>
>> "Stephen N." <Steelystephen [at] coldmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hCs3g.1088$o81.506 [at] edtnps90...
>>
>>>Lastly, some flights used to allow you to check your bag at gateside just
>>>before you boarded. I haven't tried this for a while so I don't know if
>>>it is still possible. Items checked this way are placed on top of the
>>>pile at the end and taken off first after landing. Call and ask the
>>>airline.
>>>
>>>Stephen N.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Gate checking won't work. If you could get it that far, you could carry
>> it on. You can't go past the security checkpoint with banned items.
>> Roger
>
> Not sure what the regulations are for gateside these days. Lots of stuff
> used to be taken past security and checked there that you couldn't take
> onboard, for example a baby stroller. I'm not sure but I think I still
> see them doing this.
>
> Has anyone actually tried to take a cue on as carry-on lately? You can
> still take a small musical instrument on and lots of people are carrying
> bottles of liquor on. A 40 pounder of rye would make a better Shillelah
> than a pool cue and I'd rather get smacked with a Moooooochi than a jug of
> Seagrams. In fact I was smacked a few times by a bottle of rye in my
> naive youth.
>
> Stephen N. ---> now I'd rather get smacked by a good single malt...
>
Stephen:
You can still gate check items that are too large or cumbersome for the
overhead. I did it on Wednesday. The difference is that strollers and such
are not banned by the TSA. Unfortunately pool cues are. You cannot get
them past security.
Roger
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984199 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 19:22 |
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Dhakala wrote:
> My son's going to visit Mom for a few weeks. He wants to take his cue,
> a $300 Clint Putnam. I'm a little nervous about putting that cue in the
> hands of airport baggage handlers. Should I be?
Well, the lad and cue are in the air. Thought I'd post a progress
report.
The lady who accepted our luggage said we'd have to sign an agreement
that United is liable only for loss of the boxed-up cue, not for
damage. I'll let you know what shape the box is in when it lands. I'm
not worried about the case and cue; they're bound in about three inches
of bubble wrap.
I told the check-in gal about the PVC pipe-and-caps suggestion, and she
burst into laughter. "Oh, yeah, THAT would make everyone's day around
here!" :-)
Thanks to the chain-and-stud riddled clothing that Tony prefers, we
were delayed by Security. Missed his flight by seconds. Fortunately,
another Chicago-bound flight left ten minutes later. He just called me
from O'Hare to ask how his cue was going to catch up to him. I
explained baggage routing tickets and he seemed to get it.
We don't fly often.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984201 ] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 19:28 |
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I travel extensively. If I don't have time to FedEx it to myself at my
destination hotel, I take my golf clubs along. A Whitten 1x2 fits nicely
inside the bag, and the airlines are very familiar with golf bags. If you
have a hard sided golf travel case, bigger cue cases will fit comfortably
too. I kind of like the option of chasing the little white ball around in
the morning, then hitting the tables in the afternoon/evening. Great way to
work.
Jim Thomas
"Dhakala" <NoPoliticalCalls [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145976443.539472.166120 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> My son's going to visit Mom for a few weeks. He wants to take his cue,
> a $300 Clint Putnam. I'm a little nervous about putting that cue in the
> hands of airport baggage handlers. Should I be?
>
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984246 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 04:01 |
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I had Sheldon LeBow make a three piece cue for me especially to fit in
regular luggage for airline flights. That way it doesn't draw any additional
attention from the potentially light-fingered handlers. Plays great.
"Bob Johnson" <bobj [at] cris.com> wrote in message
news:e2mps7$6s [at] dispatch.concentric.net...
> Cues are still prohibited items.
>
> --
> Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984248 ] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 04:36 |
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I don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard that Johnny Archer checks a
suitcase that's large enough for his cue case to fit diagonally in the midst
of his other belongings.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bobj [at] cris.com
"George" <poolplayer [at] mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:YBV3g.12085$t61.2384 [at] bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>I had Sheldon LeBow make a three piece cue for me especially to fit in
>regular luggage for airline flights. That way it doesn't draw any
>additional attention from the potentially light-fingered handlers. Plays
>great.
>
> "Bob Johnson" <bobj [at] cris.com> wrote in message
> news:e2mps7$6s [at] dispatch.concentric.net...
>> Cues are still prohibited items.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
>>
>
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984529 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 02:35 |
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Dhakala wrote:
> Dhakala wrote:
> > My son's going to visit Mom for a few weeks. He wants to take his cue,
> > a $300 Clint Putnam. I'm a little nervous about putting that cue in the
> > hands of airport baggage handlers. Should I be?
>
> Well, the lad and cue are in the air. Thought I'd post a progress
> report.
>
> The lady who accepted our luggage said we'd have to sign an agreement
> that United is liable only for loss of the boxed-up cue, not for
> damage. I'll let you know what shape the box is in when it lands. I'm
> not worried about the case and cue; they're bound in about three inches
> of bubble wrap.
>
> I told the check-in gal about the PVC pipe-and-caps suggestion, and she
> burst into laughter. "Oh, yeah, THAT would make everyone's day around
> here!" :-)
>
> Thanks to the chain-and-stud riddled clothing that Tony prefers, we
> were delayed by Security. Missed his flight by seconds. Fortunately,
> another Chicago-bound flight left ten minutes later. He just called me
> from O'Hare to ask how his cue was going to catch up to him. I
> explained baggage routing tickets and he seemed to get it.
>
> We don't fly often.
Cue and boy landed safely and together. If it gets lost on the way
back, I know where to look for it: at Alabama's # 1 tourist attraction
(1 million visitors per year):
http://www.unclaimedbaggage.com
Tony called yesterday to report that Mom and he are having a splendid
time together.
"What are you two doing?" I asked.
"Cleaning the house," he replied.
WTF?! I have to tell him that his snakes aren't going to eat until he
cleans OUR house!
I suppose it has to do with the adventure of exploring grandparents'
attics and such. I can't even consider the possibility that Mom is a
more adept parent than I. ;-)
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984530 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 02:49 |
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Dhakala wrote:
> Tony called yesterday to report that Mom and he are having a splendid
> time together.
>
> "What are you two doing?" I asked.
>
> "Cleaning the house," he replied.
>
> WTF?! I have to tell him that his snakes aren't going to eat until he
> cleans OUR house!
That ain't going to help. Snakes can go for year without eating. Can
you wait that long for him to clean up? Tell him HE ain't eating till
the house is clean.
Stephen N. ---> the average teenager can last two hours in an emergency...
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984532 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 03:16 |
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Stephen N. wrote:
> Dhakala wrote:
>
> > Tony called yesterday to report that Mom and he are having a splendid
> > time together.
> >
> > "What are you two doing?" I asked.
> >
> > "Cleaning the house," he replied.
> >
> > WTF?! I have to tell him that his snakes aren't going to eat until he
> > cleans OUR house!
>
> That ain't going to help. Snakes can go for year without eating. Can
> you wait that long for him to clean up? Tell him HE ain't eating till
> the house is clean.
Well, yes, I know how long the snakes can go without eating. But Tony
thinks it's not much longer than a month. :-) And he manages to forage
elsewhere when I threaten his diet, so that doesn't work.
However, I did get his full attention and immediate compliance when I
persuaded the owner of Jason's Billiards to enforce my ban on Tony's
presence there! To hear him tell it, I violated every precept of the
Bill of Rights and most of the Geneva Convention, too. :-)
But housekeeping isn't that a big a deal. I subscribe to Ann Landers'
ideal: "a home should be clean enough to be healthy and messy enough
to be comfortable."
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984534 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 03:13 |
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Stephen N. wrote:
> Dhakala wrote:
>
>> Tony called yesterday to report that Mom and he are having a splendid
>> time together.
>>
>> "What are you two doing?" I asked.
>>
>> "Cleaning the house," he replied.
>>
>> WTF?! I have to tell him that his snakes aren't going to eat until he
>> cleans OUR house!
>
>
> That ain't going to help. Snakes can go for year without eating. Can
> you wait that long for him to clean up? Tell him HE ain't eating till
> the house is clean.
>
> Stephen N. ---> the average teenager can last two hours in an emergency...
>
You need 50 feet of good chain and a padlock.
Donald
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984536 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 04:14 |
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Dhakala wrote:
> Stephen N. wrote:
>>That ain't going to help. Snakes can go for year without eating. Can
>>you wait that long for him to clean up? Tell him HE ain't eating till
>>the house is clean.
>
>
> Well, yes, I know how long the snakes can go without eating. But Tony
> thinks it's not much longer than a month. :-) And he manages to forage
> elsewhere when I threaten his diet, so that doesn't work.
>
> However, I did get his full attention and immediate compliance when I
> persuaded the owner of Jason's Billiards to enforce my ban on Tony's
> presence there! To hear him tell it, I violated every precept of the
> Bill of Rights and most of the Geneva Convention, too. :-)
I dunno, I think it's probably a good trade off if he doesn't clean up
but you don't have to feed him. You have to hit them where it counts
though and you've found the lever. Maybe just the threat of taking his
cue away and making him play with a house cue would do it.
A friend of mine was threatening his daughter with everything he could
think of as punishement with no effect until he got to confiscation of
her cellphone. She went pale.
Stephen N.---> cells are not covered in the Charter of Human Rights...
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| Re: Taking cue on airplane [message #984544 ] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 08:10 |
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Donald Tees wrote:
> > Stephen N. ---> the average teenager can last two hours in an emergency...
> >
>
> You need 50 feet of good chain and a padlock.
And then a good lawyer!
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