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| Australia win U19's [message #982976] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 02:39 |
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http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #982984 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 04:38 |
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In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #982986 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 05:00 |
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"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
news:44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
Aus wins u/19s for first time. Pretty good standard of play, but fewer
errors from Aus made the difference - along with one big selection clanger:
Tane Puki didn't play the full 70 minutes. Not since Campese have I seen a
more exciting fullback at this level. The way he turned a 3 on 4 into an
overlap for a try, the way he escaped surrounding kick chasers, pretty much
every touch ...
From the polynesian gene distribution you could have been forgiven for
thinking that the sides had swapped playing strips. Aus rugby is benefiting
now from the way islander emigration patterns widened a decade or two back.
(translation into NH/SAish: now Aus is poaching too)
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #982988 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 06:42 |
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"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
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>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
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> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
rugby results. Really smart.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983000 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 09:23 |
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"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
news:4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
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> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
>> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
>>
>> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
>
> Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
> rugby results. Really smart.
>
>
>
Nice job acting like a dickhead for the sake of it. Including *Spoiler*
in the header of a thread that contains the result is just common courtesy.
You can see it on every result header posted today except yours. Yours has
the result *in* the header. That makes you inconsiderate, as William
correctly points out.
Keegan..
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983006 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 10:56 |
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William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
>
>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
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> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
I think Bully's faux pas means he's just nominated himself for FAQ
maintenance. Looks like he could do with brushing up on its contents.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983017 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 17:09 |
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In article <4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
> >
> > Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
>
> Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
> rugby results. Really smart.
Nice job not knowing the netiquette for ANY newsgroup, especially rsru.
Really considerate.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983018 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 17:09 |
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In article <4449d9df [at] clear.net.nz>, "David Keegan" <no [at] spam> wrote:
> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
> news:4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
> >
> > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> > news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> >> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
> >>
> >> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
> >
> > Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
> > rugby results. Really smart.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Nice job acting like a dickhead for the sake of it. Including *Spoiler*
> in the header of a thread that contains the result is just common courtesy.
> You can see it on every result header posted today except yours. Yours has
> the result *in* the header. That makes you inconsiderate, as William
> correctly points out.
>
> Keegan..
>
>
Thank you, but I fear this is lost on the hard of thinking.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983036 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 06:09 |
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"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-3F6AC4.11090322042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
>
>> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> > In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
>> > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
>> >
>> > Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
>>
>> Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
>> rugby results. Really smart.
>
> Nice job not knowing the netiquette for ANY newsgroup, especially rsru.
> Really considerate.
Well I'm not going anywhere. Best you get used to it.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983037 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 06:13 |
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"David Keegan" <no [at] spam> wrote in message news:4449d9df [at] clear.net.nz...
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> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
> news:4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
>>> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
>>>
>>> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
>>
>> Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
>> rugby results. Really smart.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Nice job acting like a dickhead for the sake of it. Including
> *Spoiler* in the header of a thread that contains the result is just
> common courtesy. You can see it on every result header posted today except
> yours. Yours has the result *in* the header. That makes you inconsiderate,
> as William correctly points out.
I make no apologies for other people's stupidity. If you don't want to know
results, don't come in here til after you've seen the game.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983052 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 17:43 |
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William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <4449d9df [at] clear.net.nz>, "David Keegan" <no [at] spam> wrote:
>
> > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
> > news:4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
> > >
> > > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > >> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> > >> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
> > >>
> > >> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
> > >
> > > Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
> > > rugby results. Really smart.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Nice job acting like a dickhead for the sake of it. Including *Spoiler*
> > in the header of a thread that contains the result is just common courtesy.
> > You can see it on every result header posted today except yours. Yours has
> > the result *in* the header. That makes you inconsiderate, as William
> > correctly points out.
> >
> > Keegan..
> >
> >
>
> Thank you, but I fear this is lost on the hard of thinking.
>
> William Clark
I know it's etiquette and all that, but I must admit I've always found
this particular convention to be overly pedantic and pointless. I agree
with Bully....why would you read a rugby ng if you were planning on
watching a recording of a game and didn't want to know the score? I go
along with the convention myself, but I admit it's less because I care
about others not wanting to know the score, but more to stave off the
flurry of complaints by the net nannies.
As a test, how many people were going to watch this game, but have now
had their enjoyment spoiled by Bully's header?
Richard Bridgman
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983057 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 15:04 |
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In message <444afe58$0$19831$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>, Uncle Bully
<wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> writes
>I make no apologies for other people's stupidity.
How about your own?
> If you don't want to know results, don't come in here til after you've
>seen the game.
>
There are a lot of games going on all over the world on a weekend.
People cannot watch them all at the same time but they may wish to read
up on others they may not see. It is just a little common courtesy not
to spoil things for those who may not be able to see a match until later
on. If you intend to be deliberately discourteous expect to be treated
similarly.
--
Pete Devlin
[{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
"And don’t forget my dog, fixed and consequent"
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983072 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 00:39 |
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In article <1145806984.770808.283320 [at] z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Richard Bridgman" <rhb919 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > In article <4449d9df [at] clear.net.nz>, "David Keegan" <no [at] spam> wrote:
> >
> > > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
> > > news:4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > >
> > > > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> > > > news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > >> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> > > >> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
> > > >>
> > > >> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
> > > >
> > > > Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the
> > > > current
> > > > rugby results. Really smart.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Nice job acting like a dickhead for the sake of it. Including
> > > *Spoiler*
> > > in the header of a thread that contains the result is just common
> > > courtesy.
> > > You can see it on every result header posted today except yours. Yours
> > > has
> > > the result *in* the header. That makes you inconsiderate, as William
> > > correctly points out.
> > >
> > > Keegan..
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Thank you, but I fear this is lost on the hard of thinking.
> >
> > William Clark
>
> I know it's etiquette and all that, but I must admit I've always found
> this particular convention to be overly pedantic and pointless. I agree
> with Bully....why would you read a rugby ng if you were planning on
> watching a recording of a game and didn't want to know the score? I go
> along with the convention myself, but I admit it's less because I care
> about others not wanting to know the score, but more to stave off the
> flurry of complaints by the net nannies.
>
> As a test, how many people were going to watch this game, but have now
> had their enjoyment spoiled by Bully's header?
>
> Richard Bridgman
Well, I for one - courtesy of my TiVo and satellite. I don't think the
convention is hard to follow - just the "spoiler" heading is enough to
warn me off. When you are forced to live off so much tape delayed
broadcast, keeping off the ng is not always a practical solution.
Generally, this is one of the more civilized ngs around, so this works.
Just like jeering while kicks are being taken, it is just sad when these
small courtesies are ignored.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983073 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 00:40 |
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In article <444afd97$0$10676$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark.31-3F6AC4.11090322042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> >
> >> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> > In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> >> > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
> >> >
> >> > Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
> >>
> >> Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
> >> rugby results. Really smart.
> >
> > Nice job not knowing the netiquette for ANY newsgroup, especially rsru.
> > Really considerate.
>
> Well I'm not going anywhere. Best you get used to it.
Oh, joy. Well, we can look forward to more classy behaviour then.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983076 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 02:13 |
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William A. T. Clark wrote:
> Well, I for one - courtesy of my TiVo and satellite. I don't think the
> convention is hard to follow - just the "spoiler" heading is enough to
> warn me off. When you are forced to live off so much tape delayed
> broadcast, keeping off the ng is not always a practical solution.
>
> Generally, this is one of the more civilized ngs around, so this works.
> Just like jeering while kicks are being taken, it is just sad when these
> small courtesies are ignored.
You're living in the past, William, in quite a few areas, I have noticed.
Newsgroups are no longer the domain of academics and selcted government
employees. The gentlemanly conventions of neitiquette that once graced
these groups operate by consent only and are unenforceable, and to my
mind, many of them are rather quaint and somewhat silly.
The whole typing in capitals thing -- nerdy conventions introduced by
geeks who somehow imagined they had invented a whole new means of
communication. A computer's just an electronic device, after all,
written language has been around for four thousand years or so and just
because some spotty chinless wonders with thick glasses use an
electronic device as the medium insead of pen and paper doesn't give
them the right to dictate all sorts of behaviours associated with it.
I don't live in an area deluged with rugby television either. I
frequently watch delayed rugby videos. If I want to watch it without
knowing the result, my simple and obvious solution is not to visit rsru
until AFTER I have watched the game.
Spoiler headlines are not always effective in any case. The result can
be referred to obliquely in quite innocent posts. It's just common sense
to stay away.
It's not like rsru is so bloody riveting, after all.
-- rick boyd
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983077 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 02:14 |
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pete devlin wrote:
> There are a lot of games going on all over the world on a weekend.
> People cannot watch them all at the same time but they may wish to read
> up on others they may not see. It is just a little common courtesy not
> to spoil things for those who may not be able to see a match until later
> on. If you intend to be deliberately discourteous expect to be treated
> similarly.
Deliberate discourtesy in rsru? Whoever heard of such a thing!
You thick Scots git.
-- rick boyd
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983078 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 02:14 |
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Uncle Bully,
It isn't too hard to post without putting the result in the header.
There are times when I've wanted to catch up on topics within the
newsgroup while waiting for the replay of a game on tv - by your logic
I wouldn't be able.
Surely you can follow netiquette so that nobody is disadvantaged ? Its
not that difficult!
Karl aka Stomper
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983080 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 02:58 |
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In article <444c1815 [at] quokka.wn.com.au>,
rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote:
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
>
> > Well, I for one - courtesy of my TiVo and satellite. I don't think the
> > convention is hard to follow - just the "spoiler" heading is enough to
> > warn me off. When you are forced to live off so much tape delayed
> > broadcast, keeping off the ng is not always a practical solution.
> >
> > Generally, this is one of the more civilized ngs around, so this works.
> > Just like jeering while kicks are being taken, it is just sad when these
> > small courtesies are ignored.
>
> You're living in the past, William, in quite a few areas, I have noticed.
Indeed, civility and basic good manners do seem to have gone out of the
window, don't they? Especially in your part of the world.
>
> Newsgroups are no longer the domain of academics and selcted government
> employees. The gentlemanly conventions of neitiquette that once graced
> these groups operate by consent only and are unenforceable, and to my
> mind, many of them are rather quaint and somewhat silly.
Why do you assume that only academics and government employees are the
only people who can be courteous? Or should be expected to be? Is it
now commonly acceptable for everyone to behave like an oik and be proud
of it? You have been in Australia too long, and listened to too much
Kerry Packer.
>
> The whole typing in capitals thing -- nerdy conventions introduced by
> geeks who somehow imagined they had invented a whole new means of
> communication. A computer's just an electronic device, after all,
> written language has been around for four thousand years or so and just
> because some spotty chinless wonders with thick glasses use an
> electronic device as the medium insead of pen and paper doesn't give
> them the right to dictate all sorts of behaviours associated with it.
>
What on earth has simple decent manners have to do with pen and paper
and "spotty chinless wonders"? Seems to me you have a strange view of
your role in defining global conventions for the 21st century.
> I don't live in an area deluged with rugby television either. I
> frequently watch delayed rugby videos. If I want to watch it without
> knowing the result, my simple and obvious solution is not to visit rsru
> until AFTER I have watched the game.
It's not always clear exactly when a game is on, especially when it's
as minor as this U19 game. TiVos let you not worry about that sort of
thing.
>
> Spoiler headlines are not always effective in any case. The result can
> be referred to obliquely in quite innocent posts. It's just common sense
> to stay away.
That's another issue entirely. For someone who has been in the ng to
post a result so blatantly is like having your neighbour's dog poop on
your lawn - unnecessary and unwanted.
>
> It's not like rsru is so bloody riveting, after all.
At least we agree on something.
Cheers,
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983088 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 09:26 |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:13:16 +0800, rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au>
wrote:
>William A. T. Clark wrote:
>
>> Well, I for one - courtesy of my TiVo and satellite. I don't think the
>> convention is hard to follow - just the "spoiler" heading is enough to
>> warn me off. When you are forced to live off so much tape delayed
>> broadcast, keeping off the ng is not always a practical solution.
>>
>> Generally, this is one of the more civilized ngs around, so this works.
>> Just like jeering while kicks are being taken, it is just sad when these
>> small courtesies are ignored.
>
>You're living in the past, William, in quite a few areas, I have noticed.
>
>Newsgroups are no longer the domain of academics and selcted government
>employees. The gentlemanly conventions of neitiquette that once graced
>these groups operate by consent only and are unenforceable, and to my
>mind, many of them are rather quaint and somewhat silly.
>
>The whole typing in capitals thing -- nerdy conventions introduced by
>geeks who somehow imagined they had invented a whole new means of
>communication. A computer's just an electronic device, after all,
>written language has been around for four thousand years or so and just
>because some spotty chinless wonders with thick glasses use an
>electronic device as the medium insead of pen and paper doesn't give
>them the right to dictate all sorts of behaviours associated with it.
>
>I don't live in an area deluged with rugby television either. I
>frequently watch delayed rugby videos. If I want to watch it without
>knowing the result, my simple and obvious solution is not to visit rsru
>until AFTER I have watched the game.
>
>Spoiler headlines are not always effective in any case. The result can
>be referred to obliquely in quite innocent posts. It's just common sense
>to stay away.
>It's not like rsru is so bloody riveting, after all.
>
That begs the question: why then do you spend so much time here, and
commit such fervor and energy into your contributions?
Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983091 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 09:55 |
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"rick boyd" <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote in message
news:444c1815 [at] quokka.wn.com.au...
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
>
>> Well, I for one - courtesy of my TiVo and satellite. I don't think the
>> convention is hard to follow - just the "spoiler" heading is enough to
>> warn me off. When you are forced to live off so much tape delayed
>> broadcast, keeping off the ng is not always a practical solution.
>>
>> Generally, this is one of the more civilized ngs around, so this works.
>> Just like jeering while kicks are being taken, it is just sad when these
>> small courtesies are ignored.
>
> You're living in the past, William, in quite a few areas, I have noticed.
>
> Newsgroups are no longer the domain of academics and selcted government
> employees. The gentlemanly conventions of neitiquette that once graced
> these groups operate by consent only and are unenforceable, and to my
> mind, many of them are rather quaint and somewhat silly.
>
> The whole typing in capitals thing -- nerdy conventions introduced by
> geeks who somehow imagined they had invented a whole new means of
> communication. A computer's just an electronic device, after all, written
> language has been around for four thousand years or so and just because
> some spotty chinless wonders with thick glasses use an electronic device
> as the medium insead of pen and paper doesn't give them the right to
> dictate all sorts of behaviours associated with it.
>
> I don't live in an area deluged with rugby television either. I frequently
> watch delayed rugby videos. If I want to watch it without knowing the
> result, my simple and obvious solution is not to visit rsru until AFTER I
> have watched the game.
>
> Spoiler headlines are not always effective in any case. The result can be
> referred to obliquely in quite innocent posts. It's just common sense to
> stay away.
>
> It's not like rsru is so bloody riveting, after all.
>
> -- rick boyd
Come on Rick, its not that bloody hard to do. Why not just have "Under 19
World Cup Result" in the heading. Its not that hard to do. You dont have to
use the word *spoiler* in the heading just as long as you dont tell the
result.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983092 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 10:28 |
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[snip]
keep this debate up guys and someone is gonna have to fix the FAQ.
Stex
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983094 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 10:34 |
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Will_S wrote:
> Come on Rick, its not that bloody hard to do. Why not just have "Under 19
> World Cup Result" in the heading. Its not that hard to do. You dont have to
> use the word *spoiler* in the heading just as long as you dont tell the
> result.
Sure, it's not hard to do. I generally avoid it myself, if I remember,
just to appease those still living in La Belle Epoch.
But railing against those who choose not to is just a waste of
bandwidth. The end result is really the same -- as long as even a few
choose to ignore nerdiquette, it's not worth the risk of coming on to
rsru and spoling the anticipation of an unseen game, so everyone might
as well ignore it.
-- rick boyd
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983097 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 10:44 |
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rick boyd wrote:
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
>
>> Well, I for one - courtesy of my TiVo and satellite. I don't think the
>> convention is hard to follow - just the "spoiler" heading is enough to
>> warn me off. When you are forced to live off so much tape delayed
>> broadcast, keeping off the ng is not always a practical solution.
>>
>> Generally, this is one of the more civilized ngs around, so this
>> works. Just like jeering while kicks are being taken, it is just sad
>> when these small courtesies are ignored.
>
> You're living in the past, William, in quite a few areas, I have noticed.
>
> Newsgroups are no longer the domain of academics and selcted government
> employees. The gentlemanly conventions of neitiquette that once graced
> these groups operate by consent only and are unenforceable, and to my
> mind, many of them are rather quaint and somewhat silly.
>
> The whole typing in capitals thing -- nerdy conventions introduced by
> geeks who somehow imagined they had invented a whole new means of
> communication. A computer's just an electronic device, after all,
> written language has been around for four thousand years or so and just
> because some spotty chinless wonders with thick glasses use an
> electronic device as the medium insead of pen and paper doesn't give
> them the right to dictate all sorts of behaviours associated with it.
>
> I don't live in an area deluged with rugby television either. I
> frequently watch delayed rugby videos. If I want to watch it without
> knowing the result, my simple and obvious solution is not to visit rsru
> until AFTER I have watched the game.
>
> Spoiler headlines are not always effective in any case. The result can
> be referred to obliquely in quite innocent posts. It's just common sense
> to stay away.
>
> It's not like rsru is so bloody riveting, after all.
>
> -- rick boyd
Yeah. How many times have I come home to watch the latest Force game,
only for it all to be ruined by Uncle Bully and his cohorts....many many....
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983107 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 11:04 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
Did this actually surprise anyone? Australia were clearly the class act
of the tournament. The earlier loss to NZ was not a true reflection of
the game, and owed more to sloppy play by the Aussies than any
qualities shown by NZ.
>From the perspective of a NH supporter, the gulf in class between the
two finalists and the rest of the teams is particularly worrying.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983108 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 11:11 |
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"pete devlin" <spamtrap [at] secondrow.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jmo2n0Azt3SEFwti [at] sukmabobby.com...
> In message <444afe58$0$19831$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>, Uncle Bully
> <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> writes
>>I make no apologies for other people's stupidity.
>
> How about your own?
>
>> If you don't want to know results, don't come in here til after you've
>> seen the game.
>>
> There are a lot of games going on all over the world on a weekend. People
> cannot watch them all at the same time but they may wish to read up on
> others they may not see. It is just a little common courtesy not to spoil
> things for those who may not be able to see a match until later on. If you
> intend to be deliberately discourteous expect to be treated similarly.
Bwahahaahaha! treated discourteously? Only a fool would expect anything else
in this place.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983110 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 11:12 |
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"Stomper" <karlnixon [at] bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:1145837683.721112.164010 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Uncle Bully,
>
> It isn't too hard to post without putting the result in the header.
>
> There are times when I've wanted to catch up on topics within the
> newsgroup while waiting for the replay of a game on tv - by your logic
> I wouldn't be able.
>
> Surely you can follow netiquette so that nobody is disadvantaged ? Its
> not that difficult!
>
And if only all the poor hungry kids had something to eat...
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983124 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 12:39 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> "Stomper" <karlnixon [at] bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:1145837683.721112.164010 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > Uncle Bully,
> >
> > It isn't too hard to post without putting the result in the header.
> >
> > There are times when I've wanted to catch up on topics within the
> > newsgroup while waiting for the replay of a game on tv - by your logic
> > I wouldn't be able.
> >
> > Surely you can follow netiquette so that nobody is disadvantaged ? Its
> > not that difficult!
> >
>
> And if only all the poor hungry kids had something to eat...
Simple question though:
Are you just going to be a dick for the sake of it? Common courtesy
costs nothing, after all. Taking pride in being a dick is the province
of children and inadequately endowed men.
Cheers
Brent
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983127 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 14:12 |
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In article <444c8d75 [at] quokka.wn.com.au>,
rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote:
> Will_S wrote:
>
> > Come on Rick, its not that bloody hard to do. Why not just have "Under 19
> > World Cup Result" in the heading. Its not that hard to do. You dont have to
> > use the word *spoiler* in the heading just as long as you dont tell the
> > result.
>
> Sure, it's not hard to do. I generally avoid it myself, if I remember,
> just to appease those still living in La Belle Epoch.
No, not really, you do it just to p*** off those that still hope to find
civility and courtesy somewhere in the world. Fine - go ahead if you
will, it only calibrates the value of everything else you offer on rsru.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983128 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 14:13 |
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In article <444afe58$0$19831$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> "David Keegan" <no [at] spam> wrote in message news:4449d9df [at] clear.net.nz...
> >
> > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
> > news:4449b3c4$0$29881$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>
> >> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> >> news:clark.31-815943.22384021042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>> In article <44497ad1$0$7858$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> >>> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.irbu19.com/EN/News/Division+A/match_29.htm
> >>>
> >>> Nice job on the spoiler. Really considerate.
> >>
> >> Nice job reading a Rugby newgroup if you didn't want to know the current
> >> rugby results. Really smart.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Nice job acting like a dickhead for the sake of it. Including
> > *Spoiler* in the header of a thread that contains the result is just
> > common courtesy. You can see it on every result header posted today except
> > yours. Yours has the result *in* the header. That makes you inconsiderate,
> > as William correctly points out.
>
> I make no apologies for other people's stupidity. If you don't want to know
> results, don't come in here til after you've seen the game.
Actually you make no apologies for your own stupidity and ignorance.
Let's call it as it is.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983129 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 14:13 |
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In article <444c95d7$0$9697$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
> "pete devlin" <spamtrap [at] secondrow.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:jmo2n0Azt3SEFwti [at] sukmabobby.com...
> > In message <444afe58$0$19831$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>, Uncle Bully
> > <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> writes
> >>I make no apologies for other people's stupidity.
> >
> > How about your own?
> >
> >> If you don't want to know results, don't come in here til after you've
> >> seen the game.
> >>
> > There are a lot of games going on all over the world on a weekend. People
> > cannot watch them all at the same time but they may wish to read up on
> > others they may not see. It is just a little common courtesy not to spoil
> > things for those who may not be able to see a match until later on. If you
> > intend to be deliberately discourteous expect to be treated similarly.
>
> Bwahahaahaha! treated discourteously? Only a fool would expect anything else
> in this place.
Pathetic.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983130 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 14:14 |
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In article <1145875177.044584.79090 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Brent Hadley" <the_1aser [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Uncle Bully wrote:
> > "Stomper" <karlnixon [at] bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > news:1145837683.721112.164010 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > > Uncle Bully,
> > >
> > > It isn't too hard to post without putting the result in the header.
> > >
> > > There are times when I've wanted to catch up on topics within the
> > > newsgroup while waiting for the replay of a game on tv - by your logic
> > > I wouldn't be able.
> > >
> > > Surely you can follow netiquette so that nobody is disadvantaged ? Its
> > > not that difficult!
> > >
> >
> > And if only all the poor hungry kids had something to eat...
>
> Simple question though:
>
> Are you just going to be a dick for the sake of it? Common courtesy
> costs nothing, after all. Taking pride in being a dick is the province
> of children and inadequately endowed men.
>
> Cheers
>
> Brent
Maybe it's the only thing he's any good at.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983131 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 14:22 |
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"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-7E68AB.08135524042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <444c95d7$0$9697$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
>
>> "pete devlin" <spamtrap [at] secondrow.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:jmo2n0Azt3SEFwti [at] sukmabobby.com...
>> > In message <444afe58$0$19831$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>, Uncle
>> > Bully
>> > <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> writes
>> >>I make no apologies for other people's stupidity.
>> >
>> > How about your own?
>> >
>> >> If you don't want to know results, don't come in here til after you've
>> >> seen the game.
>> >>
>> > There are a lot of games going on all over the world on a weekend.
>> > People
>> > cannot watch them all at the same time but they may wish to read up on
>> > others they may not see. It is just a little common courtesy not to
>> > spoil
>> > things for those who may not be able to see a match until later on. If
>> > you
>> > intend to be deliberately discourteous expect to be treated similarly.
>>
>> Bwahahaahaha! treated discourteously? Only a fool would expect anything
>> else
>> in this place.
>
> Pathetic.
Now you're getting the hang of it.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983132 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 14:30 |
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"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
news:clark.31-FD345D.08122324042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <444c8d75 [at] quokka.wn.com.au>,
> rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Will_S wrote:
>>
>> > Come on Rick, its not that bloody hard to do. Why not just have "Under
>> > 19
>> > World Cup Result" in the heading. Its not that hard to do. You dont
>> > have to
>> > use the word *spoiler* in the heading just as long as you dont tell the
>> > result.
>>
>> Sure, it's not hard to do. I generally avoid it myself, if I remember,
>> just to appease those still living in La Belle Epoch.
>
> No, not really, you do it just to p*** off those that still hope to find
> civility and courtesy somewhere in the world. Fine - go ahead if you
> will, it only calibrates the value of everything else you offer on rsru.
Get that Rick, you're off the Queen's honour list now.
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983140 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 15:02 |
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William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <444c8d75 [at] quokka.wn.com.au>,
> rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>>Will_S wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Come on Rick, its not that bloody hard to do. Why not just have "Under 19
>>>World Cup Result" in the heading. Its not that hard to do. You dont have to
>>>use the word *spoiler* in the heading just as long as you dont tell the
>>>result.
>>
>>Sure, it's not hard to do. I generally avoid it myself, if I remember,
>>just to appease those still living in La Belle Epoch.
>
>
> No, not really, you do it just to p*** off those that still hope to find
> civility and courtesy somewhere in the world. Fine - go ahead if you
> will, it only calibrates the value of everything else you offer on rsru.
>
> William Clark
I think you misunderstood me, Bill old fruit. I generally avoid it
(giving away the result in the header) myself, if I remember...
In other words, I DON'T go out of my way to break the rules of
nerdiquette, not because I think they're worth a damp fart on a Saturday
night, but because I'm generally a nice sort of chap who really doesn't
want to upset anyone unncessarily.
Believe it or not.
(And I won't even mention the irony of several insults in several posts
from someone who has set up his little tent on the higher moral ground
to lecture us unwashed colonial oiks about civility and good manners).
(Oops.)
-- rick boyd
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983141 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 15:03 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark.31-FD345D.08122324042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>No, not really, you do it just to p*** off those that still hope to find
>>civility and courtesy somewhere in the world. Fine - go ahead if you
>>will, it only calibrates the value of everything else you offer on rsru.
>
>
> Get that Rick, you're off the Queen's honour list now.
Ah well, there's always suicide.
-- rick boyd
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983145 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 16:05 |
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In article <444ccc63 [at] quokka.wn.com.au>,
rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote:
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > In article <444c8d75 [at] quokka.wn.com.au>,
> > rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Will_S wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Come on Rick, its not that bloody hard to do. Why not just have "Under 19
> >>>World Cup Result" in the heading. Its not that hard to do. You dont have
> >>>to
> >>>use the word *spoiler* in the heading just as long as you dont tell the
> >>>result.
> >>
> >>Sure, it's not hard to do. I generally avoid it myself, if I remember,
> >>just to appease those still living in La Belle Epoch.
> >
> >
> > No, not really, you do it just to p*** off those that still hope to find
> > civility and courtesy somewhere in the world. Fine - go ahead if you
> > will, it only calibrates the value of everything else you offer on rsru.
> >
> > William Clark
>
> I think you misunderstood me, Bill old fruit. I generally avoid it
> (giving away the result in the header) myself, if I remember...
>
> In other words, I DON'T go out of my way to break the rules of
> nerdiquette, not because I think they're worth a damp fart on a Saturday
> night, but because I'm generally a nice sort of chap who really doesn't
> want to upset anyone unncessarily.
>
> Believe it or not.
>
> (And I won't even mention the irony of several insults in several posts
> from someone who has set up his little tent on the higher moral ground
> to lecture us unwashed colonial oiks about civility and good manners).
>
> (Oops.)
>
> -- rick boyd
Indeed, I know that you are not an offender in this matter, so I am only
surprised that you jump to the defense of someone who clearly doesn't
give give a damn about anyone other than himself.
William Clark
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983146 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 16:15 |
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Uncle Bully wrote:
> "pete devlin" <spamtrap [at] secondrow.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:jmo2n0Azt3SEFwti [at] sukmabobby.com...
>> In message <444afe58$0$19831$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>, Uncle Bully
>> <wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> writes
>>> I make no apologies for other people's stupidity.
>> How about your own?
>>
>>> If you don't want to know results, don't come in here til after you've
>>> seen the game.
>>>
>> There are a lot of games going on all over the world on a weekend. People
>> cannot watch them all at the same time but they may wish to read up on
>> others they may not see. It is just a little common courtesy not to spoil
>> things for those who may not be able to see a match until later on. If you
>> intend to be deliberately discourteous expect to be treated similarly.
>
> Bwahahaahaha! treated discourteously? Only a fool would expect anything else
> in this place.
>
>
>
Although there is a difference between calling someone a prick, and
ruining 2 hours on the sofa with his favourite beer watching some game
from the other side of the world.....
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983147 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 16:18 |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:03:09 +0800, rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au>
wrote:
>Uncle Bully wrote:
>> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31 [at] nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:clark.31-FD345D.08122324042006 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
>
>>>No, not really, you do it just to p*** off those that still hope to find
>>>civility and courtesy somewhere in the world. Fine - go ahead if you
>>>will, it only calibrates the value of everything else you offer on rsru.
>>
>>
>> Get that Rick, you're off the Queen's honour list now.
>
>Ah well, there's always suicide.
>
I don't think it will upset her to that extent. Why would she want to
commit suicide just because you are unlikely to be on the honours
list?
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983161 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 20:56 |
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In message <444c1852 [at] quokka.wn.com.au>, rick boyd <boyd [at] comswest.net.au>
writes
>You thick Scots git.
Up yours baldy.
--
Pete Devlin
[{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
"And don’t forget my dog, fixed and consequent"
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| Re: Australia win U19's [message #983167 ] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 00:19 |
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In message <444c95d7$0$9697$afc38c87 [at] news.optusnet.com.au>, Uncle Bully
<wakeupcall [at] optushome.com.au.REMOVE> writes
>Bwahahaahaha! treated discourteously? Only a fool would expect anything
>else in this place.
You probably find it that way. I don't suppose people like Mike Amm or
Charlie Pearce do. You makes your own bed. Don't getme wrong, I love a
slagging session but I don't go out to deliberately upset those who
won't appreciate it. I suppose this is all lost on you really, you
appear to lack the intelligence to rise above what passes for the norm
round your parts.
--
Pete Devlin
[{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
"And don’t forget my dog, fixed and consequent"
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