| Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978949] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 18:57 |
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/ncaa/04/21/ kansas.trouble/
index.html
http://tinyurl.com/g889p
--
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no god.
It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
"There's hits in chicken." -- Wade Boggs
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978950 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 19:45 |
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Jay Furr wrote:
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/ncaa/04/21/ kansas.trouble/
> index.html
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> http://tinyurl.com/g889p
The lousy thing of it is, that coach Roy Williams likely faces no penalty at
all. One of the things I hate about the NCAA is that the punishment usually
hits parties that had little or no invovlement in the crimes while the
guilty folks get off free of penalty.
--
v/r Dread Pirate Rackham
"You know one things that's wrong with this country? Everybody gets a
chance to have their fair say." - President Clinton 28 May 1993
"There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending
that you can love your country but despise your government." -
President Clinton 5 May 1995
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978951 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 20:02 |
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In article <Xns97AD83D976FB6pennstatesux [at] 216.168.3.44>,
Jay Furr <jfurr-nospam [at] nospam-furrs.org> wrote:
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/ncaa/04/21/ kansas.trouble/
> index.html
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> http://tinyurl.com/g889p
Looks like "ole Roy ain't that good" AND "ole Roy ain't that clean."
Sounds worse than "getting turned in by a stripper when the check
bounced." :-)
Tell ole Roy - any publicity is good publicity as long as they spell
your name right.
Harry
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978952 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 20:16 |
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Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn. Big whipping deal...
good to see Harry still over reacts to everything dealing with 'ole
Roy'.
And Coach K has been where while the University is in crisis?
Hmmmmm.....
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978953 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 20:31 |
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"kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> writes:
> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978954 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 21:15 |
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In article <1145729792.458229.46440 [at] z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn. Big whipping deal...
> good to see Harry still over reacts to everything dealing with 'ole
> Roy'.
Once again - a coach craps where he eats - then runs to a new program
completely free to do it again.
I agree with the previous poster - Roy should pay this penalty with a
couple of years suspension. Instead - kids still in high school will go
to Kansas because they love the place - and pay for what happened on
Roy's watch.
As far as Coach K goes - he could have left Duke and gotten $30 million
from the Lakers - but he stuck around for the low college wages and to
help these young kids.
Roy Williams went to the highest bidder - when just two years ago he
said he would never leave Kansas - he even told his players that.
Harry
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978955 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 21:19 |
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On Sat, 22 Apr, tholen [at] antispam.ham wrote:
> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> writes:
>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
The reason for the rule is to keep boosters from being able to lure
recruits by saying "we can't pay you now, but we'll give you a huge 'gift'
as soon as you graduate" and such. Now, I understand why the rule says
*no* gifts, but at the same time it's pretty obvious that giving a few
players gifts that may have been as much as $400 isn't any payback from a
recruiting promise and is laughable if tried to be used on new recruits
("look, we were able to give so-and-so $400 after he graduated and we'll do
the same for you!").
Sure, it's against the rules and something needs to be done about it to
make sure folks know it is and make sure it doesn't happen again. But it's
not like anyone needs to be hung or anything. And I'd say that if this
were any other school, Duke included.
It sounds like the "lack of institutional control" has nothing to do with
any of these rather small issues. It has more to do with Kansas leaving
the compliance director position open (meaning the NCAA thinks that Kansas
left the store unminded) on three separate occasions in a rather short
timeframe. What was lacking in this article was how long those periods
were, and I think that's a significant data point toward how serious this
charge should be. Somehow I'm still doubting the sum total of these
violations and the lack of a compliance director for those times is worthy
of a charge *this* significant, though.
--Donnie
--Donnie
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Donnie Barnes http://www.donniebarnes.com 879. V.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978956 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 22:41 |
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"Harry" <harry [at] everhart.com> wrote in message
news:harry-E3F941.15151522042006 [at] comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <1145729792.458229.46440 [at] z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn. Big whipping deal...
>> good to see Harry still over reacts to everything dealing with 'ole
>> Roy'.
>
> Once again - a coach craps where he eats
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> - then runs to a new program
> completely free to do it again.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> I agree with the previous poster
Irrelevant.
> - Roy should pay this penalty with a
> couple of years suspension.
Jealous of UNC's prospects of winning the title the next couple years, eh
Harry?
> Instead - kids still in high school will go
> to Kansas because they love the place - and pay for what happened on
> Roy's watch.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> As far as Coach K goes - he could have left Duke and gotten $30 million
> from the Lakers -
That was never his intention. His intention was to boost his massive ego by
having the sports world focus on him for that entire weekend.
> but he stuck around for the low college wages and to
> help these young kids.
He doesn't need the millions from the NBA when's he prostituting himself for
the millions from Chevy and American Express.
>
> Roy Williams went to the highest bidder - when just two years ago he
> said he would never leave Kansas - he even told his players that.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. Roy did not go to the highest
bidder. He turned down the Lakers position. In fact, the Lakers offered
the job to him before they went to their second choice -- Coach K.
>
> Harry
What does your name have to do with college basketball, Harry?
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978957 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 22:43 |
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<tholen [at] antispam.ham> wrote in message
news:1Eu2g.6221$543.198 [at] tornado.socal.rr.com...
> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> writes:
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>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978959 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 22:56 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978960 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 23:05 |
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tholen [at] antispam.ham wrote:
> Hairgasm writes:
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> >> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> >>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
> >> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
> > Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
Dave Mikolaitis
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978961 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 23:16 |
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tholen [at] antispam.ham wrote:
> Hairgasm writes:
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> >> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
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> >>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> >>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
> >> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
> > Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with college
basketball, Tholen?
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978962 ] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 23:18 |
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mollusk wrote:
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> tholen [at] antispam.ham wrote:
> > Hairgasm writes:
> >
> > >> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> > >>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
> >
> > >> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
> >
> > > Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
> >
> > Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978963 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 00:14 |
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mollusk wrote:
> tholen [at] antispam.ham wrote:
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>>Hairgasm writes:
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>>>>"kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>
>>>>A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>
>>>Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>>
>>Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
>
> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
I don't think Bill reads rsbc.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978964 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 00:15 |
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Hairgasm wrote:
> mollusk wrote:
>
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>>tholen [at] antispam.ham wrote:
>>
>>>Hairgasm writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>"kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>
>>>>>A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>
>>>>Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>>>
>>>Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>
>>Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>
>
> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
Damn, I'm always slow.... Sweet handle, Hairgasm.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978965 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 01:28 |
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Charles Beauchamp wrote:
> Jay Furr wrote:
>> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/
>> 2006/basketball/ncaa/04/21/kansas.trouble/index.html
>The lousy thing of it is, that coach Roy Williams likely faces no penalty at
>all. One of the things I hate about the NCAA is that the punishment usually
>hits parties that had little or no invovlement in the crimes while the
>guilty folks get off free of penalty.
How many of the problems that were listed were Williams's doing? It
seems to me that they've already served the punishment for the Darnell
Jackson incident, and the other problems attributed to the basketball
program seem like the kind of things that usually result in a slap on
the wrist, "well, we'll let you stay postseason and TV eligible if you
promise not to do it again" sort of penalty, especially if the coach
is leaving.
(Question: "test help for prospective students" - is that code for
"hiring people to take the SATs for football recruits"? I still think
that Prop 42 should be replaced by bringing back freshman
ineligibility but allowing four years of eligibility plus a redshirt
after that - at least as long as the NBA's new age rules hold up in
court.)
(But, of course, since women's basketball is a "non-revenue sport",
the NCAA will probably hit that program with a postseason ban and a
scholarship loss - how DARE they "provide transportation for a
prospective student" - they have to show that there are still some
sports out there where they appear to be concerned for the
students...)
-- Don
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978966 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 02:22 |
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978967 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 04:24 |
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mollusk writes:
>> Hairgasm wrote:
>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978968 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 04:25 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with college
> basketball, Tholen?
Classic erroneous presupposition.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978969 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 04:25 |
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Hairgasm writes:
> mollusk wrote:
>>> Hairgasm writes:
>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
Classic presupposition.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978970 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 04:26 |
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Jason Arndt writes:
> mollusk wrote:
>>> Hairgasm wrote:
>>>>> kstarheel wrote:
>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
> I don't think Bill reads rsbc.
What you think is irrelevant, Arndt.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978971 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 04:27 |
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Jason Arndt writes:
> Hairgasm wrote:
>> mollusk wrote:
>>>> Hairgasm wrote:
>>>>>> kstarheel wrote:
>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
> Damn, I'm always slow.... Sweet handle, Hairgasm.
Non sequitur.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978972 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 05:03 |
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<tholen [at] antispam.ham> wrote in message
news:OAB2g.10872$3W1.10172 [at] tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Hairgasm writes:
>
>> mollusk wrote:
>
>>>> Hairgasm writes:
>
>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>> basketball.
>
>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>
>> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
>
> Classic presupposition.
On the contrary, my question did not presuppose anything.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978973 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 05:04 |
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<tholen [at] antispam.ham> wrote in message
news:wBB2g.10873$3W1.8871 [at] tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Jason Arndt writes:
>
>> mollusk wrote:
>
>>>> Hairgasm wrote:
>
>>>>>> kstarheel wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>> basketball.
>
>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>
>> I don't think Bill reads rsbc.
>
> What you think is irrelevant, Arndt.
What does that have to do with college basketball, Tholen?
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978974 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 05:07 |
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<tholen [at] antispam.ham> wrote in message
news:5AB2g.10871$3W1.4746 [at] tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Hairgasm writes:
>
>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>
>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
>> What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with
>> college
>> basketball, Tholen?
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
Yes, I know your previous statement was a classic erroneous presupposition;
no need to tell me that. But you evaded my question: What does your
unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with college basketball,
Tholen?
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978975 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 06:20 |
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Dickless Davie tholen [at] antispam.ham the irrelevant Ignoranus whined and
tholed:
> Hairgasm writes:
>
> >> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> >>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
> >> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
> > Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Ding!
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978976 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 06:23 |
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Dickless Davie tholen [at] antispam.ham the irrelevant Ingnoranus whined and
tholed:
> Hairgasm writes:
>
> >>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> >>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
> >>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
> >>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>
> >> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> > What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with college
> > basketball, Tholen?
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
On your part, Dickless.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978977 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 11:29 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>>> mollusk wrote:
>>>>> Hairgasm writes:
>>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>> basketball.
>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>>> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
>> Classic presupposition.
> On the contrary, my question did not presuppose anything.
Incorrect; you presupposed that the reference to Self was a reference
to Bill Self.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978978 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 11:30 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>> Jason Arndt wrote:
>>> mollusk wrote:
>>>>> Hairgasm wrote:
>>>>>>> kstarheel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>> basketball.
>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>>> I don't think Bill reads rsbc.
>> What you think is irrelevant, Arndt.
> What does that have to do with college basketball, Tholen?
Bill Self is a college basketball coach, Hairgasm. Interesting
that I had to explain that to you.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978979 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 11:32 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU basketball.
>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>> What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with
>>> college basketball, Tholen?
>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
> Yes, I know your previous statement was a classic erroneous presupposition;
Classic hallucination.
> no need to tell me that.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
> But you evaded my question:
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> What does your
> unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with college basketball,
> Tholen?
Classic erroneous presupposition.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978980 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 12:51 |
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Dickless Davie tholen [at] antispam.ham the irrelevant Ignoranus whined and
tholed:
> Hairgasm writes:
>
> >>> mollusk wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hairgasm writes:
>
> >>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> >>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
> >>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
> >>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
> >>>>>> basketball.
>
> >>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> >>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>
> >>> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
>
> >> Classic presupposition.
>
> > On the contrary, my question did not presuppose anything.
>
> Incorrect; you presupposed that the reference to Self was a reference
> to Bill Self.
What does your note to Self have to do with classical music, Dickless?
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978982 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 20:44 |
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<tholen [at] antispam.ham> wrote in message
news:1OH2g.7285$543.6698 [at] tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Hairgasm writes:
>
>>>> mollusk wrote:
>
>>>>>> Hairgasm writes:
>
>>>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
>>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
>>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>>> basketball.
>
>>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
>>>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>
>>>> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
>
>>> Classic presupposition.
>
>> On the contrary, my question did not presuppose anything.
>
> Incorrect; you presupposed that the reference to Self was a reference
> to Bill Self.
Incorrect; that was not a presupposition, given that it was clear the
reference was to Bill Self, as the poster had capitalized the word "Self".
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978983 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 20:45 |
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<tholen [at] antispam.ham> wrote in message
news:ePH2g.7286$543.3739 [at] tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Hairgasm writes:
>
>>> Jason Arndt wrote:
>
>>>> mollusk wrote:
>
>>>>>> Hairgasm wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> kstarheel wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
>>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
>>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>>> basketball.
>
>>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
>>>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>
>>>> I don't think Bill reads rsbc.
>
>>> What you think is irrelevant, Arndt.
>
>> What does that have to do with college basketball, Tholen?
>
> Bill Self is a college basketball coach, Hairgasm. Interesting
> that I had to explain that to you.
Non sequitur, since Bill Self has nothing to do with Arndt's allegedly
irrelevant thinking.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978984 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 20:49 |
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<tholen [at] antispam.ham> the Pavlovian Mutt wrote in message
news:oQH2g.7287$543.4416 [at] tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Hairgasm writes:
>
>>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>
>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>
>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>> basketball.
>
>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
>>>> What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with
>>>> college basketball, Tholen?
>
>>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
>> Yes, I know your previous statement was a classic erroneous
>> presupposition;
>
> Classic hallucination.
I agree that you are hallucinating, Tholen; no need to tell me that.
>> no need to tell me that.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
I already told you that your statement was a classic erroneous
presupposition, Tholen; no need to repeat that.
>> But you evaded my question:
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Yes, I know you evaded my question with a classic unsubstantiated and
erroneous claim; no need to tell me that.
>> What does your
>> unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with college basketball,
>> Tholen?
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
Yes, your claim was a classic erroneous presupposition, but you still
haven't answered my question.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978985 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 20:51 |
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<mbbr [at] mighty.co.za> wrote in message
news:1145766193.034754.29220 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Dickless Davie tholen [at] antispam.ham the irrelevant Ingnoranus whined and
> tholed:
>> Hairgasm writes:
>>
>> >>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>> >>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>
>> >>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>
>> >>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>> >>> basketball.
>>
>> >> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>
>> > What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with
>> > college
>> > basketball, Tholen?
>>
>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
> On your part, Dickless.
I see that Tholen has not responded to your post, which means he agrees with
your "Dickless" attribution. Thank you.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978987 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 23:15 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>>>>> mollusk wrote:
>>>>>>> Hairgasm writes:
>>>>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>>>> basketball.
>>>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>>>>> What does Bill Self have to do with Tholen?
>>>> Classic presupposition.
>>> On the contrary, my question did not presuppose anything.
>> Incorrect; you presupposed that the reference to Self was a reference
>> to Bill Self.
> Incorrect;
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> that was not a presupposition,
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> given that it was clear the reference was to Bill Self,
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> as the poster had capitalized the word "Self".
Illogical, unless you want to claim that Bill Self is the only person
in the world with the surname Self.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978988 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 23:16 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>>>> Jason Arndt wrote:
>>>>> mollusk wrote:
>>>>>>> Hairgasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>> kstarheel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>>>> basketball.
>>>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>>>> Memo to Self: Remove or update irony progam in the 'bot.
>>>>> I don't think Bill reads rsbc.
>>>> What you think is irrelevant, Arndt.
>>> What does that have to do with college basketball, Tholen?
>> Bill Self is a college basketball coach, Hairgasm. Interesting
>> that I had to explain that to you.
> Non sequitur,
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> since Bill Self has nothing to do with Arndt's allegedly
> irrelevant thinking.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. Suffering from reading
comprehension problems, Hairgasm?
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978989 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 23:18 |
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Hairgasm writes:
>>>>>>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>>> basketball.
>>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>>> What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with
>>>>> college basketball, Tholen?
>>>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>>> Yes, I know your previous statement was a classic erroneous
>>> presupposition;
>> Classic hallucination.
> I agree that you are hallucinating, Tholen;
Classic erroneous presupposition.
> no need to tell me that.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
>>> no need to tell me that.
>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
> I already told you that your statement was a classic erroneous
> presupposition, Tholen;
Classic erroneous presupposition.
> no need to repeat that.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
>>> But you evaded my question:
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> Yes, I know you evaded my question with a classic unsubstantiated and
> erroneous claim;
Classic erroneous presupposition.
> no need to tell me that.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
>>> What does your
>>> unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with college basketball,
>>> Tholen?
>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
> Yes, your claim was a classic erroneous presupposition,
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> but you still haven't answered my question.
Your question still involves an erroneous presupposition, Hairgasm.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978990 ] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 23:20 |
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Hairgasm writes:
> Michael Baldwin Bruce wrote:
>> Dickless Davie tholen [at] antispam.ham the irrelevant Ingnoranus whined and
>> tholed:
>>> Hairgasm wrote:
>>>>>>> kstarheel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
>>>>>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
>>>>>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
>>>>>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
>>>>>> basketball.
>>>>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>> What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with
>>>> college basketball, Tholen?
>>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>> On your part, Dickless.
> I see that Tholen has not responded to your post, which means he agrees with
> your "Dickless" attribution.
What does your classic illogical and erroneous conclusion have to do
with classical music, Hairgasm?
> Thank you.
Non sequitur.
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| Re: Jayhawks: Hosed [message #978991 ] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 00:54 |
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Hairgasm wrote:
> <mbbr [at] mighty.co.za> wrote in message
> news:1145766193.034754.29220 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Dickless Davie tholen [at] antispam.ham the irrelevant Ingnoranus whined and
> > tholed:
> >> Hairgasm writes:
> >>
> >> >>>> "kstarheel" <kstarheel [at] cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> Roy owned up to this long ago. He was shocked that a 'graduating
> >> >>>>> student' couldn't get a 'gift card from a alumn.
> >>
> >> >>>> A gift card containing anywhere from $25 to $400.
> >>
> >> >>> Like a Pavlovian Mutt, Tholen shows up on any mention of KU
> >> >>> basketball.
> >>
> >> >> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> >>
> >> > What does your unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with
> >> > college
> >> > basketball, Tholen?
> >>
> >> Classic erroneous presupposition.
> >
> > On your part, Dickless.
>
> I see that Tholen has not responded to your post, which means he agrees with
> your "Dickless" attribution. Thank you.
Yes, he loves me now.
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