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My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876261] Mon, 13 March 2006 21:58
Tonawanda Kardex  
How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).

I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876264 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 22:39
nospam  
"Tonawanda Kardex" <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> wrote

> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
>
> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.

I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876265 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 22:44
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:39:26 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Tonawanda Kardex" <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> wrote
:
:> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
:> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
:> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
:> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
:> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
:> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
:> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
:> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
:>
:> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
:
:I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
:Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.

I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876268 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 22:54
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote

> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
> :
> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
>
> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)

And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
was ballsy...

LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
Iona because they haven't played any.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876269 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:01
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:54:34 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote
:
:> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
:> :
:> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
:> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
:>
:> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
:> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)
:
:And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
:was ballsy...
:
:LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
:Iona because they haven't played any.

Everyone (who knew about my pick) thought I was insane for having
Vermont over Syracuse last year.. but that pick won the pools for me. ;)

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876273 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:37
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote

> :> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
> :> :
> :> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
> :> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
> :>
> :> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
> :> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)
> :
> :And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
> :was ballsy...
> :
> :LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
> :Iona because they haven't played any.
>
> Everyone (who knew about my pick) thought I was insane for having
> Vermont over Syracuse last year.. but that pick won the pools for me. ;)

It's rare for the scoring to be so close that a first round
pick makes the difference, but it can happen.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876274 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:39
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:37:17 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote
:
:> :> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
:> :> :
:> :> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
:> :> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
:> :>
:> :> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
:> :> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)
:> :
:> :And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
:> :was ballsy...
:> :
:> :LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
:> :Iona because they haven't played any.
:>
:> Everyone (who knew about my pick) thought I was insane for having
:> Vermont over Syracuse last year.. but that pick won the pools for me. ;)
:
:It's rare for the scoring to be so close that a first round
:pick makes the difference, but it can happen.

A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876277 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:59
geoff-usenet2  
In article <MPG.1e7fbec7125fd91098a68b [at] news-40.giganews.com>,
Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:

> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.

That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
they are this year.

- geoff
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876279 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 00:01
nospam  
"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2 [at] stuebegreen.com> wrote

>> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
>> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.
>
> That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
> they are this year.

Ergo picking VT over Syracuse isn't what won the pool.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876280 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 00:06
Steve Cutchen  
In article <1142283499.954361.146320 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Tonawanda Kardex <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
>
> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.

'Cuse shot their wad in the Big East tournament. Coach's f-bombs and
playing without a break let the adreneline hold strong. But these off
days will take their toll. Fear the Aggee.
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876296 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 03:10
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:45 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2 [at] stuebegreen.com> wrote
:
:>> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
:>> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.
:>
:> That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
:> they are this year.
:
:Ergo picking VT over Syracuse isn't what won the pool.

You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.

The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
rounds. That was a deciding factor.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876301 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 03:38
Sean S  
"Tonawanda Kardex" <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> laid this on me:

> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
>
> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.

A 20-win 12 seed vs "bubble to conference tourney champ" 5 seed.
What could go wrong?
(I took the 'Cuse to win that one anyways...am I dumn?)

Sean
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #876309 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 04:57
Orange  
Steve Cutchen wrote:
> > I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
>
> 'Cuse shot their wad in the Big East tournament. Coach's f-bombs and
> playing without a break let the adreneline hold strong. But these off
> days will take their toll. Fear the Aggee.

Exactly. *sigh*...

Oh well... it's been a glorious run... at least they successfully
defended their Big East Tournament Championship. So they've got that,
which is nice. ($1)

Cheers,
--Jeff
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898889 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 22:39
nospam  
"Tonawanda Kardex" <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> wrote

> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
>
> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.

I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898891 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 22:44
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:39:26 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Tonawanda Kardex" <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> wrote
:
:> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
:> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
:> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
:> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
:> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
:> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
:> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
:> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
:>
:> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
:
:I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
:Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.

I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898897 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 22:54
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote

> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
> :
> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
>
> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)

And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
was ballsy...

LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
Iona because they haven't played any.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898901 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:01
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:54:34 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote
:
:> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
:> :
:> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
:> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
:>
:> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
:> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)
:
:And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
:was ballsy...
:
:LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
:Iona because they haven't played any.

Everyone (who knew about my pick) thought I was insane for having
Vermont over Syracuse last year.. but that pick won the pools for me. ;)

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898913 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:37
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote

> :> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
> :> :
> :> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
> :> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
> :>
> :> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
> :> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)
> :
> :And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
> :was ballsy...
> :
> :LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
> :Iona because they haven't played any.
>
> Everyone (who knew about my pick) thought I was insane for having
> Vermont over Syracuse last year.. but that pick won the pools for me. ;)

It's rare for the scoring to be so close that a first round
pick makes the difference, but it can happen.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898914 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:39
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:37:17 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote
:
:> :> :> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
:> :> :
:> :> :I have them losing to Duke right now. And if they upset
:> :> :Duke, they won't get past a healthy Texas.
:> :>
:> :> I was tempted to have them losing to Iona.. but I can't see Iona scoring
:> :> two big upsets in a row. (I think they'll beat LSU.)
:> :
:> :And I thought picking Sagarin #27 Syracuse over #12 LSU
:> :was ballsy...
:> :
:> :LSU is 4-5 against the top 30. We don't know about #60
:> :Iona because they haven't played any.
:>
:> Everyone (who knew about my pick) thought I was insane for having
:> Vermont over Syracuse last year.. but that pick won the pools for me. ;)
:
:It's rare for the scoring to be so close that a first round
:pick makes the difference, but it can happen.

A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898923 ] Mon, 13 March 2006 23:59
geoff-usenet2  
In article <MPG.1e7fbec7125fd91098a68b [at] news-40.giganews.com>,
Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:

> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.

That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
they are this year.

- geoff
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898925 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 00:01
nospam  
"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2 [at] stuebegreen.com> wrote

>> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
>> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.
>
> That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
> they are this year.

Ergo picking VT over Syracuse isn't what won the pool.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #898927 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 00:06
Steve Cutchen  
In article <1142283499.954361.146320 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Tonawanda Kardex <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
>
> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.

'Cuse shot their wad in the Big East tournament. Coach's f-bombs and
playing without a break let the adreneline hold strong. But these off
days will take their toll. Fear the Aggee.
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #899005 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 03:10
onyx_hokie  
At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:45 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2 [at] stuebegreen.com> wrote
:
:>> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
:>> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.
:>
:> That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
:> they are this year.
:
:Ergo picking VT over Syracuse isn't what won the pool.

You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.

The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
rounds. That was a deciding factor.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #899035 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 03:38
Sean S  
"Tonawanda Kardex" <tonawandakardex [at] gmail.com> laid this on me:

> How many times have they lost in the first round? How many times have
> they made it to the Final Four? I never know where to pick this team. I
> know they lost last year in the first round, which makes me want to
> pick them to lose again in the first - but that's burned me badly
> before in the past. I know they are hot right now, having won the Big
> East tourney, and that should be a sign to pick them to go a little
> ways in the NCAAs this year. But that's burned me before, too (and
> maybe that was their grand salvo for the year?).
>
> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.

A 20-win 12 seed vs "bubble to conference tourney champ" 5 seed.
What could go wrong?
(I took the 'Cuse to win that one anyways...am I dumn?)

Sean
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #899084 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 04:57
Orange  
Steve Cutchen wrote:
> > I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.
>
> 'Cuse shot their wad in the Big East tournament. Coach's f-bombs and
> playing without a break let the adreneline hold strong. But these off
> days will take their toll. Fear the Aggee.

Exactly. *sigh*...

Oh well... it's been a glorious run... at least they successfully
defended their Big East Tournament Championship. So they've got that,
which is nice. ($1)

Cheers,
--Jeff
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #899219 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 16:26
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote in message news:MPG.1e7ff025e0e47dcb98a68d [at] news-40.giganews.com...
> At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:45 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
> into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..
>
> :"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2 [at] stuebegreen.com> wrote
> :
> :>> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
> :>> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.
> :>
> :> That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
> :> they are this year.
> :
> :Ergo picking VT over Syracuse isn't what won the pool.
>
> You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.

Like bloody hell I am. Picking Syracuse to go far hurt one
big time. Picking them to beat VT and then lose in the next
round only cost you one point (out of hundreds of potential
points).

You do the math.

> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
> rounds. That was a deciding factor.

Like dur. But the VT over Syracuse call didn't win any pools.
I call your bullshit.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #906652 ] Tue, 14 March 2006 16:26
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote in message news:MPG.1e7ff025e0e47dcb98a68d [at] news-40.giganews.com...
> At about Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:45 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
> into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..
>
> :"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2 [at] stuebegreen.com> wrote
> :
> :>> A lot of people had the Cuse going deep, which screwed up that entire
> :>> portion of the bracket for them, which had deep impacts in the scoring.
> :>
> :> That's certainly true. They were a trendy pick last year. Sorta like
> :> they are this year.
> :
> :Ergo picking VT over Syracuse isn't what won the pool.
>
> You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.

Like bloody hell I am. Picking Syracuse to go far hurt one
big time. Picking them to beat VT and then lose in the next
round only cost you one point (out of hundreds of potential
points).

You do the math.

> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
> rounds. That was a deciding factor.

Like dur. But the VT over Syracuse call didn't win any pools.
I call your bullshit.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #906774 ] Wed, 15 March 2006 03:17
mes  
Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:

> You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.
>
> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
> rounds. That was a deciding factor.

The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
round 1, you might still have won. It's not obvious from your
description that calling the Vermont upset actually made the difference
between winning and not.


Michael
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #906775 ] Wed, 15 March 2006 03:31
onyx_hokie  
At about Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:17:16 -0500, Michael Sullivan was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:
:
:> You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.
:>
:> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
:> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
:> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
:> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
:
:The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
:round 1, you might still have won. It's not obvious from your
:description that calling the Vermont upset actually made the difference
:between winning and not.

It wasn't the only deciding factor, surely.. but it played a big part.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #907198 ] Wed, 15 March 2006 03:17
mes  
Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:

> You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.
>
> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
> rounds. That was a deciding factor.

The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
round 1, you might still have won. It's not obvious from your
description that calling the Vermont upset actually made the difference
between winning and not.


Michael
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #907201 ] Wed, 15 March 2006 03:31
onyx_hokie  
At about Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:17:16 -0500, Michael Sullivan was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:
:
:> You're being pretty obtuse, Ed.
:>
:> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
:> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
:> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
:> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
:
:The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
:round 1, you might still have won. It's not obvious from your
:description that calling the Vermont upset actually made the difference
:between winning and not.

It wasn't the only deciding factor, surely.. but it played a big part.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #913201 ] Wed, 15 March 2006 16:47
nospam  
"Michael Sullivan" <mes [at] panix.com> wrote

>> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
>> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
>> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
>> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
>
> The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
> round 1, you might still have won.

Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
VT earned even more points.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #913267 ] Thu, 16 March 2006 03:57
onyx_hokie  
At about Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:47:49 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Michael Sullivan" <mes [at] panix.com> wrote
:
:>> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
:>> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
:>> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
:>> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
:>
:> The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
:> round 1, you might still have won.
:
:Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
:several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
:VT earned even more points.

You aren't thinking clearly.

It gained me one point, yes.

It also hurt those against whom I was competing in that Syracuse wasn't
around to help them along the line.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #913306 ] Thu, 16 March 2006 17:07
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote

> :>> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
> :>> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
> :>> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
> :>> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
> :>
> :> The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
> :> round 1, you might still have won.
> :
> :Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
> :several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
> :VT earned even more points.
>
> You aren't thinking clearly.
>
> It gained me one point, yes.
>
> It also hurt those against whom I was competing in that Syracuse wasn't
> around to help them along the line.

Liek dur. But that doesn't necessarily have anything
to do with picking VT, because you could have picked
the team that beat VT anyway.

Picking VT earns you one fscking point. Picking the
team that beat VT earns you two points. Picking the
team that beat the team that beat VT earns your four
points. You don't get those points over the Syracuse
pickers if you didn't pick those teams.

It isn't VT that earned you a rsfcking thing more than
one point.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #913309 ] Thu, 16 March 2006 18:18
use-reply-to  
Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:
> At about Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:47:49 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged

> :Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
> :several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
> :VT earned even more points.
>
> You aren't thinking clearly.
>
> It gained me one point, yes.

> It also hurt those against whom I was competing in that Syracuse wasn't
> around to help them along the line.

You picking VT didn't do that. Syracuse *losing* did that.

If you had picked Syracuse to beat VT, but lose in the second round, you
would have had exactly 1 pt. less advantage over those people.

Picking the team that beat VT into the third round (and wherever)
*instead* of syracuse, earned more points than picking VT over Syracuse
did. Unless it was an upset bracket, it's unlikely that your pick of
that 1 game made a difference.


Michael

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Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #913401 ] Fri, 17 March 2006 07:27
Tonawanda Kardex  
> I just don't know WTF to do with the Orange, as usual.

I KNEW IT!

Grrrrrr.
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #916458 ] Wed, 15 March 2006 16:47
nospam  
"Michael Sullivan" <mes [at] panix.com> wrote

>> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
>> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
>> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
>> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
>
> The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
> round 1, you might still have won.

Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
VT earned even more points.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #916786 ] Thu, 16 March 2006 03:57
onyx_hokie  
At about Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:47:49 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged
into the street and beaten by an angry mob for writing..

:"Michael Sullivan" <mes [at] panix.com> wrote
:
:>> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
:>> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
:>> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
:>> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
:>
:> The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
:> round 1, you might still have won.
:
:Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
:several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
:VT earned even more points.

You aren't thinking clearly.

It gained me one point, yes.

It also hurt those against whom I was competing in that Syracuse wasn't
around to help them along the line.

--
Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #916944 ] Thu, 16 March 2006 17:07
nospam  
"Bryan S. Slick" <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote

> :>> The big points are in the later rounds. Many people in a tight pool had
> :>> a team winning games in rounds 2 and 3 when said team was eliminated in
> :>> round 1, thus lessening their ability to gain points in the later
> :>> rounds. That was a deciding factor.
> :>
> :> The point is that if you had picked them to go out in round 2 instead of
> :> round 1, you might still have won.
> :
> :Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
> :several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
> :VT earned even more points.
>
> You aren't thinking clearly.
>
> It gained me one point, yes.
>
> It also hurt those against whom I was competing in that Syracuse wasn't
> around to help them along the line.

Liek dur. But that doesn't necessarily have anything
to do with picking VT, because you could have picked
the team that beat VT anyway.

Picking VT earns you one fscking point. Picking the
team that beat VT earns you two points. Picking the
team that beat the team that beat VT earns your four
points. You don't get those points over the Syracuse
pickers if you didn't pick those teams.

It isn't VT that earned you a rsfcking thing more than
one point.

--Tedward
Re: My annual wrestling with Syracuse's chances in the NCAA [message #916973 ] Thu, 16 March 2006 18:18
use-reply-to  
Bryan S. Slick <onyx_hokie [at] yahoo.cem> wrote:
> At about Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:47:49 -0500, Edward M. Kennedy was dragged

> :Picking VT over Syracuse earned him exactly one point out of
> :several hundred potential points. Picking the team that beat
> :VT earned even more points.
>
> You aren't thinking clearly.
>
> It gained me one point, yes.

> It also hurt those against whom I was competing in that Syracuse wasn't
> around to help them along the line.

You picking VT didn't do that. Syracuse *losing* did that.

If you had picked Syracuse to beat VT, but lose in the second round, you
would have had exactly 1 pt. less advantage over those people.

Picking the team that beat VT into the third round (and wherever)
*instead* of syracuse, earned more points than picking VT over Syracuse
did. Unless it was an upset bracket, it's unlikely that your pick of
that 1 game made a difference.


Michael

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