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| Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863582] |
Sat, 18 February 2006 15:48 |
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Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
week and goals.
cheers,
--
David Hirsh, director
www.urbanburn.com - half marathon, full throttle!
www.absolutelyaccurate.com - Hamilton's summer series!
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863673 ] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 17:02 |
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SwStudio wrote:
> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
> week and goals.
goals: big miles, hopefully not all of them slow. Upcoming races: 15K Feb
25; (possibly) 5K March 11; marathon March 19.
M: AM 9.11mi (8:57), PM 5mi (8:37)
T: 12.1mi incl 16x400 w/150m rest, 1:29 avg. supposed to do 20, bailed at 16
to spare the calf.
W: 15mi (8:55)
R: AM 9mi (8:50), PM 5mi (8:53)
F: AM 6mi (8:37) incl 10 x 100m strides, PM 8.11mi (8:13)
Sa: 22mi (8:44), legs were like concrete, didn't attempt any MP stuff
Su: 4mi (9:09), slow but recovering
total: 95.3 miles
f
clown
lance!
This week could have gone better. I've run upper 80s for weeks at a time,
and few low-90s weeks too, so I didn't think this would be much more than a
way to boost my mileage PR. But some unexpected obligations
(badly-scheduled meetings, mostly) along with the usual heavy work schedule
made it harder to get the some of the runs in, and I was in sleep deficit
early on in the week. Tuesday's road repeats went well up through item 14,
then my calf started to tighten up, so I bagged after 16 400s. Friday
evening I met a much-faster running-club friend for an easy 8, and in
Jacobellisean fashion I kept up with his pace, which was too fast for me to
call easy and much too fast for the night before a hard 22-miler. That
method air caught me out the next morning, and I knew after the first few
miles there was no way I could run any of it at marathon pace. Both legs
hurt from top to bottom every step of the way, I kid you not. This morning
felt better but I kept it very slow. I feel kind of bad about missing the
MP part of Saturday's run, but there's not much to do but move on.
good week all
Karen
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live! vicariously!
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863676 ] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 18:28 |
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kcollin5 [at] tampabay.rr.com wrote:
> goals: big miles, hopefully not all of them slow. Upcoming races: 15K
> Feb 25; (possibly) 5K March 11; marathon March 19.
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> M: AM 9.11mi (8:57), PM 5mi (8:37)
> T: 12.1mi incl 16x400 w/150m rest, 1:29 avg. supposed to do 20, bailed
> at 16 to spare the calf.
> W: 15mi (8:55)
> R: AM 9mi (8:50), PM 5mi (8:53)
> F: AM 6mi (8:37) incl 10 x 100m strides, PM 8.11mi (8:13)
> Sa: 22mi (8:44), legs were like concrete, didn't attempt any MP stuff
> Su: 4mi (9:09), slow but recovering
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> total: 95.3 miles
Awesome week, Karen. Do you ever done a 2-a-day the day before a long run?
How much time elapsed between your Friday night 8-miler and your Saturday
22-miler? I've never tried 2-a-days (I'm not sure if I ever will, unless I
start doing 70+ mile weeks), so I don't know if only 12 or so hours rest
between efforts would cause the concrete legs.
--
Phil M.
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863678 ] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 18:55 |
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SwStudio wrote:
> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
> week and goals.
M-1:20 LR, experimenting with fueling-some raisins pre-run, water
during run.... will likely need some gel and/or sport drink as the
mileage adds up.
T-rest, core workout
W-:45+ run, will increase this to about 1:00. went at "easy" but strong
pace
Th-rest, core workout
F-:45 tempo run, fast 2nd half
S-:50 swim, included intervals and :25 continuous swim
Su-rest, core workout today
Goals: half marathon in May, Olympic distance triathlon in Aug. (1.5k
swim, 36k bike, 10k run)
happy training, all,
Cam
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863687 ] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 20:50 |
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M: 3 easy on the tread mill
T: 8 with 10 X 3:00 at 5k pace 2 minute rest
W: 6.5 easy
TH: 8 with 2 X 20 min [at] HM pace, on trails weating shorts and singlet!
F: off
Sa: 7.5 easy
Su: 15 on trails but not in shorts and singlet :(
total: 48
goals:
continue to lose weight and get to sub 180 by Spring,
184 today
4 miler on March 11th
Possible - Oleksak 1/2 Marathon endo of March
a couple of other 5k and 5 mile races in April, May
Masters 10k in April (the course from hell)
Vermont City Marathon - May 27th
"SwStudio" <shhhh_secrets [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VtGJf.54727$1Z.9880 [at] read1.cgocable.net...
> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
> week and goals.
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>
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> cheers,
> --
> David Hirsh, director
> www.urbanburn.com - half marathon, full throttle!
> www.absolutelyaccurate.com - Hamilton's summer series!
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863689 ] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 21:44 |
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SwStudio a écrit :
> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
> week and goals.
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day km mi time time/km time/mi type feel %HR
Tue 16 9.9 01h14' 4'39" 7:29 E \o/
Wed 1 0.6 00h30' 30'00" 48:23 SW :-)
Thu 8.8 5.5 00h46' 5'17" 8:31 R :-) 76
Fri 16 9.9 01h13' 4'35" 7:23 E \o/ 79
Sat 11 6.8 00h54' 4'58" 7:59 REC :-( 75
Sun 31.5 19.6 02h33' 4'52" 7:50 E :-| 78
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week 7 : 84 km 52 mi 07h12'
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last 8 weeks' average : 66 km 41 mi 05h13'
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year : 451 km 280 mi 36h29'
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good week back to training although I'm not in the same kind of shape I
was in before my injury.
I'm not following any kind of structured plan, just getting some
inspiration from pfitzinger/douglas 12 weeks, 55mpw.
on Thu did 10*110m in about 20/22" with 90m rec
this sunday, a good long run, although slow, due to some fatigue from
last week's skiing, and heavy rains/mud.
I'll try to get in a tempo run this upcoming week as I'm supposed to run
a HM in 2 weeks...
Goals :
lose 2 pounds, continue with 80+ kmpw, run some tempos.
march 5th HM : sub 84
april 9th M : sub 3
m
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863693 ] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 22:17 |
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mon: off
tues: 0:45 ran soft snow
0:25 mtn biked
wed: 0:32 ran soft snow
0:43 biked hills, 800' climb
thur: 0:10 ran, bagged it early, body achey
fri: 0:43 ran easy
sat: off
sun: 1:14 ran trails moderate, 1280' climb
This was kind of a rest week for me after a steady increase in volume and
long run time over the last 6 weeks starting from a month off. Thursday had
my knees sore from running on snow, but for some reason my whole body was
achey, so I just bagged it. Last weekend I overdid it a little with the long
run combined with too much snow shoveling and skiing the next day.
Goals: SLEEP BETTER, run 5 days a week, adding volume slowly, lose more
weight, longer trail runs as the weather gets warmer; escarpment trail run
in July.
What a difference a week makes:
today: http://i1.tinypic.com/o5rpuh.jpg
last week: http://i1.tinypic.com/nosd1g.jpg
-Tony
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863699 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 00:09 |
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shhhh_secrets [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
> week and goals.
Day Mi Type
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Mon 0.00 rest
Tue 5.00 easy (abs, weights)
Wed 8.73 3 up, 5 [at] LT
Thu 5.27 easy (abs)
Fri 9.00 aerobic
Sat 5.09 easy (abs, weights)
Sun 12.00 medium long
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Week 45 (5,555' climb)
Year 427
Training:
Week 12 of 20-week training plan. Took a light week this week in
preparation for next Saturday's 50k. I'm not doing a full
taper because the goal race isn't until April. Nonetheless, I feel like I
should cut back somewhat for a 31-mile run, even if
I'm not racing it.
Events:
2/25/06 Silver Comet Ultra Run 50k, Rockmart Georgia
http://www.tynesweb.com/guts/e-scur.html
I'm using this as a long training run for the 50-miler. This is a fast
course so I'll try hard to hold back. I'm going to try to stay slower
than 9:00 miles.
4/15/06 McNaughton Park Trail Runs, Pekin Illinois
http://tinyurl.com/avp9c
After the 50K my training will have to incorporate more hilly trails.
It's hard to believe but even though this is in Illinois (known for
being pancake flat), there are lots of hills on this course, as pictured
here http://tinyurl.com/gm3my. Also a few stream crossings, but they
look pretty tame http://tinyurl.com/hnayd. At any rate, it should be
fun!
Have a great week rec.runners.
--
Phil M.
"Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far they can
go." -T.S. Eliot
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863700 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 00:19 |
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Phil M. wrote:
> Awesome week, Karen. Do you ever done a 2-a-day the day before a long run?
Probably, maybe once or twice. But it never hit me like this one did.
> How much time elapsed between your Friday night 8-miler and your Saturday
> 22-miler? I've never tried 2-a-days (I'm not sure if I ever will, unless I
> start doing 70+ mile weeks), so I don't know if only 12 or so hours rest
> between efforts would cause the concrete legs.
I think there was about 12 hours between the Friday night run and the
Saturday morning run. When I run doubles during the week that's what it
usually works out to. I think the concrete legs were from 1) running too
fast Friday night for what I was trying to do, and 2) running on concrete
itself (we ran on a bunch of sidewalks Friday night).
The legs feel better today. We'll see what they're like after another easy
day.
Karen
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live! vicariously!
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863714 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 02:46 |
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Sun: 28 (10:26)
Mon: 6
Tue: 12
Wed: 8
Thu: 12
Fri: 7
Sat: OFF
Total: 73 miles
All runs at easy pace ( 9:30-11:00 per mile )
Goals: lose weight; prepare for a possible spring marathon
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863716 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 02:53 |
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"SwStudio" <shhhh_secrets [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
>week and goals.
Goal : PB marathon this year - probably in the Autumn
Training up the spout due to illness. Factor in the fact that I'll be
travel ling for work during all of March and I reckon I can forget about a
marathon PB in April.
Sunday was the last cross country race of the season, a pleasant course
round the lake which was dammed in 17th century to feed the Canal du Midi.
I decided to go run this despite still being ill - coughing and
runny-nosed - and not having run for 5 days.
Well after the first 1km or so, throat and lungs were burning, a throbbing
headache started up and that tensed me up so I got neck ache then side
stitch. Pity, I would 've liked to do the 10.5k version of the race, with
twice round the lake, but was not on.
Of course pace was crap compared to last Sunday's championship race,
despite an easier course. The guy from our club who beat me by a few secs
last week, stuffed more than a minute up my nose this time, on a much
shorter course.
I ran in Asics GT2110s instead of spikes cos there was a lot of hardcore
tracks and no mud anywhere. Wished I'd had the DS Trainers with me cos I
love the GTs but they ain't 6km racing shoes.
Time km mi avHR%
Mon 0:49 9 6 69 Easy, 3x round park near work.
Tue 0:00 Unplanned rest, in bed all day with fever. Must have
caught avian flu off Daisy Duck during last week's
Disneyland Paris jaunt :->
Wed 0:00 Unplanned rest. Filthy head cold still, moving down
Thu 0:00 onto throat by Wednesday evening. Raining too
Fri 0:00 so no way I'm risking outdoor exercise. Coughing
Sat 0:00 started on Thursday eve and continued onto Sat
Sun 0:45 10 6 80 20' up + lines. Cross country 6124m in 25'43 at 92% av
4th overall (out of 20 :oP), 3rd in AG
_________________
1:34 19km 12mi
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863724 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 03:38 |
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SwStudio wrote:
> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
> week and goals.
>
Best week yet!!!
Mon: weights & core work
Tue: 2.5 mi run
Wed: weights & core work
Thur: 2.0 mi hill run
Fri: no workout
Sat: 2.0 mi run, weights & core work
Sun: 5 mi run (my longest!)
Total mileage this week: 11.5 mi, total mileage for 2006: 53.25 mi
All 4 runs felt great, the hill one being the toughest. But, I live in
downtown San Francisco and I had better get used to running hills;
there's only a couple runs I can take with going uphill at all.
Sunday's run was really good. Tough, but good. I went down Post to
Market to the Embarcadero to Aquatic Park, out to the long pier and
back around to Fisherman's Wharf, where I did some shopping at Trader
Joe's. I love multi-tasking!!! : D
btw, TJ's corn salsa is to DIE FOR!!! I had salmon tacos for dinner and
could have eaten the whole jar...
Martha
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863730 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 08:00 |
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Goals: Build base and run injury free.
National Cross Country Race 24 Feb
Mon: 8k easy grass, 30' bike
Tue: 5k easy
Wed: 16k track session in pouring rain
Ran most at about 5:00/k (8:00/mile)
Thu: off
Fri: 13k including 4 x 1800m loops on grass
in 9:10/ 7:34/ 7:20/ 7:09
Sat: off
Sun: 8k grass easy, 30' bike.
Total: 50km (31 miles)
Anthony. Jerusalem, Israel.
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863741 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 14:00 |
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30 or so miles
jan/feb is hard for me.
12 bike and rest hike.
thing found on road.
woman wallet with all her family S.S. cards and checks and bank cards.
No scratch.
looks like she Do the math.
and after 2 years she found the last $1,000.00 and $326.00 put her in
the whole by $256.00 or so..she threw it out the window.......
only 2 big money thing in 2 years. maybe a 401 plain.
and a calendar time date world thing made of electronics.
I broke thru the ice next to a bever hut. in the cat tails
trails.....with in a second my sweats and boot was solid ice.still is.
and had to terra forma off the ice this day....like key stone cops. and
me 250 pounds...... only hafe the craks each step.
went off trail and came onto a tampond on a tree. well half
one.....Ewwwwwwwwwwww eeeeeeeeeee No prints.
other power line or telle line.
found a mans print were he can just stop cold on the trails and no other
prints he piss'es.....snow mobiles. and may;be a round sled.. walks out
of new home with lock ke thing and closed fence area.maybe carry a bag
and sled and well ice on boot or shoe and a sweats.....still ice...hee
hee hee.wasen't me......Dang............
were he creaks and streams he re appears and disappears.
and all so changes into a deer some times too......
no not a rabbit..... a deer......
terra forma on crakeing ice..Not cool................ this was cat
tails and mud is deeper then water......not cool......evil.....
:) Biking year round:)
:) Hiking year round:)
:) Trails are so cool:)
:>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863742 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 14:09 |
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PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:00:08 -0500, CoffeeTime101 [at] webtv.net (Coffee
Time) wrote:
>30 or so miles
>jan/feb is hard for me.
>12 bike and rest hike.
>thing found on road.
>woman wallet with all her family S.S. cards and checks and bank cards.
>No scratch.
>looks like she Do the math.
>and after 2 years she found the last $1,000.00 and $326.00 put her in
>the whole by $256.00 or so..she threw it out the window.......
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>only 2 big money thing in 2 years. maybe a 401 plain.
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>and a calendar time date world thing made of electronics.
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>I broke thru the ice next to a bever hut. in the cat tails
>trails.....with in a second my sweats and boot was solid ice.still is.
>and had to terra forma off the ice this day....like key stone cops. and
>me 250 pounds...... only hafe the craks each step.
>went off trail and came onto a tampond on a tree. well half
>one.....Ewwwwwwwwwwww eeeeeeeeeee No prints.
>other power line or telle line.
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>found a mans print were he can just stop cold on the trails and no other
>prints he piss'es.....snow mobiles. and may;be a round sled.. walks out
>of new home with lock ke thing and closed fence area.maybe carry a bag
>and sled and well ice on boot or shoe and a sweats.....still ice...hee
>hee hee.wasen't me......Dang............
>were he creaks and streams he re appears and disappears.
> and all so changes into a deer some times too......
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>no not a rabbit..... a deer......
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>terra forma on crakeing ice..Not cool................ this was cat
>tails and mud is deeper then water......not cool......evil.....
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> :) Biking year round:)
> :) Hiking year round:)
> :) Trails are so cool:)
> :>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863748 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:10 |
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steve common wrote:
> "SwStudio" <shhhh_secrets [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
>> week and goals.
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> Goal : PB marathon this year - probably in the Autumn
<snip>
That's what you said last time! ;-)
Seems to be a bit of double posting happening Steve. Computer or brain
trouble?
Tim
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863749 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:02 |
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No Bill the psyco a veggie who rides shot-gun at myers were I was......
and the terminator 3 movie on t.v. last night.
funny I am the man. and as far as what I know or get as money is....
is fuckng zero....
and I still get no work, no job nd no help.....
and they get to know what happens.
Hay as long as all these gus I knew for 30 years work and got paid....
what else is there. and if I ask one thing. like was the psyco in the
movie...
I get to wait till judgement day or t.v. last night too see.......
Like I said.....I died so they could live......
chill bill did you not know who take it...
sir.You put it all on me and you gave me zero......you rip me off......
:) Biking year round:)
:) Hiking year round:)
:) Trails are so cool:)
:>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863750 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:05 |
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only thing I got was billed. not a god dam cent ever......zero zippo
nada a fucking thing ever.
:) Biking year round:)
:) Hiking year round:)
:) Trails are so cool:)
:>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863751 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:06 |
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they evan took my map to my ultra run.
to build a golf corse.
:) Biking year round:)
:) Hiking year round:)
:) Trails are so cool:)
:>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863752 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:04 |
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oh I am sorry. I well get on my bike and go find work sir......because
why.
you said I can work......
:) Biking year round:)
:) Hiking year round:)
:) Trails are so cool:)
:>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863753 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:27 |
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"Tim Downie" <timdownie2003 [at] obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Seems to be a bit of double posting happening Steve. Computer or brain
>trouble?
Neither (well, the brain is always a problem :-). I noticed some typos in
the figures just after I posted, so I canceled the previous post and
reposted a corrected version.
It seems you were quick off the draw (or the cancels aren't being handled
correctly / promptly by all the news relays in the world) and managed to
download the original post before I killed it.
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863754 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:52 |
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55.45 NY and Philadelphia east coast miles, as
Mo: 3.55 slow pace but moderate effort through the ice and snow of the
weekend blizzard. Woo-hoo, I get to wear the IceBugs this winter.
Tu: 3.65 easy, still a bit snowy and slushy but back to regular shoes
We: 10.0 incl 8 x 35" strides and 20' around MP
Th: 5.0 easy
Fr: AM - 10.0 incl 10 x 20" strides and 3.35 mi tempo (~HMP), temp 55F
PM - 3.55 easy recovery, windchill 28F
Sa: 4.7 easy self-guided tour of Philly's center city
Su: AM - 12.0 easy, in Philly's Fairmount Park up and down the
Schuylkill River. Good spot for a run, and lots of folks out doing so
despite the 21 degree (my estimate) windchill. Kelvin. Wanted to put
in 15 but running late for brunch reservation.
PM - 3.0 recovery on hotel dreadmill plus mile on rowing machine.
Enjoying a weekend getaway. Seem to be more better running options
here than NYC (which is second only to Saint Petersburg, Russia in my
experience to date for "worst running city in the world"... though of
course it's good for _racing_ what with all the clubs, talent, and
races). And - you betcha - plenty of good food and Ye Olde Easte
Coaste culture, as opposed to those west coast well-tanned barbarians.
Upcoming:
- I'd love to beat lance at a 2006 race and watch him declare victory
- 4 miler in one week
- start reps training week of 5 Mar
- Brooklyn 1/2 marathon 18 Mar
- big races = Boilermaker 9 July; fall 42k NYCM or maybe later race
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863756 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 16:47 |
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>- I'd love to beat lance at a 2006 race and watch him declare victory
_________
.....and this is your attempt of humor in how i stated i outperformed
donovan in the context of AG scoring? you're saying you will beat me
on time, but not in the AG rankings, and i will assert
victory?...that's essentially the crux of humor?
you elected to publicly personally challenge me to a race on April 2, a
10K. i accepted your challenge and asked what we're putting on the
line....and suggested $1K....you were then the predictable "Brooklyn
Dodger". Though you initiated the challenge....you shut up, were
silent, dodged response.
Scotland 10K, April 2 Pendejo...that's the race you challenged me.
Runner that comes in second between us buys the victor a pair of
running shoes of his choice not to exceed $100. Fair enough?
I'm just responding to you Pendejo....and if you want to know when I am
next racing again so much....answer up and give me a reason to line up
and race. You know my history....if I could race...believe me I
would. But my 80-85% & BMI of 26 and age of 5 years older than you is
nonetheless still beyond your reach....on time.
You're an honorable man....all you gotta do is say the wager is
accepted...I'm sure you'll honor it, as will I. Whaddaya Say?
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863757 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 17:02 |
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steve common wrote:
> "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003 [at] obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Seems to be a bit of double posting happening Steve. Computer or
>> brain trouble?
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> Neither (well, the brain is always a problem :-). I noticed some
> typos in the figures just after I posted, so I canceled the previous
> post and reposted a corrected version.
>
> It seems you were quick off the draw (or the cancels aren't being
> handled correctly / promptly by all the news relays in the world) and
> managed to download the original post before I killed it.
That did occur to me after I'd posted but I couldn't be ars*d to proof read
them for typos. ;-)
FWIW, I've never known cancels to work. I think messages just propagate so
d*mn fast these days.
Tim
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863760 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 17:25 |
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SwStudio wrote:
> Greetings, rec.runners! Please tell us about your training
> week and goals.
> cheers,
Goals: Local Grand Prix series of races, 2 down, 8 to go. Next
is in April. But I'd like to do the AZ Distance Classic Half-M
next month. Keep doing speedwork once a week, and make it either
faster or more reps, while staying sound!
Mon: Rest Day (day after the last race)
Tues: Treadmill Speedwork. 1 mile warmup, 6 x 800 [at] 7:19 pace,
with 400 "rests" at 8:57 pace. Last one was tough. total 5.5 miles.
Wed: 6.3 mi [at] 8:55 pace. Nice day, felt good, no lingering stiffness.
Thu: 5.5 mi on treadmill. Very very windy outside, so watched TV
and took easy run (9:41 pace).
Fri: Rest Day and Sci Fi Friday...
Sat: 13.5 mi [at] 9:23 overall pace in Sabino Canyon. Gorgeous morning.
Canyon barely has any water in it right now. It's been awhile since
I've done some serious hill work, but we did fine.
Sun: 5.52 mi [at] 9:11 pace. Both of us have some stiff spots, mostly in
the glutes (him) or hams (me) from yesterday's hills. Big annoyance-
several groups of rude ATVs flying by us kicking up dust clouds.
First SNAKE out today, it was mightily ticked off from the ATVs.
This is WAY TOO EARLY for snakes to be out, it's only FEB!! Thank
you, global warming...
Total: 36.32 miles
Teresa in AZ
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863761 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 17:30 |
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Geesh, still quite a good race despite the illness! 4th OA and 3 AG!
Big congrats! I wouldn't worry about your rival's effort this time, he
had an unfair advantage. You'll get him next time out.
Teresa in AZ
steve common wrote:
> Sunday was the last cross country race of the season, a pleasant course
> round the lake which was dammed in 17th century to feed the Canal du Midi.
> I decided to go run this despite still being ill - coughing and
> runny-nosed - and not having run for 5 days.
>
> Well after the first 1km or so, throat and lungs were burning, a throbbing
> headache started up and that tensed me up so I got neck ache then side
> stitch. Pity, I would 've liked to do the 10.5k version of the race, with
> twice round the lake, but was not on.
>
> Of course pace was crap compared to last Sunday's championship race,
> despite an easier course. The guy from our club who beat me by a few secs
> last week, stuffed more than a minute up my nose this time, on a much
> shorter course.
>
> Sun 0:45 10 6 80 20' up + lines. Cross country 6124m in 25'43 at
92% av
> 4th overall (out of 20 :oP), 3rd in AG
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863766 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 18:19 |
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PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:02:59 -0500, CoffeeTime101 [at] webtv.net (Coffee
Time) wrote:
>No Bill the psyco a veggie who rides shot-gun at myers were I was......
>and the terminator 3 movie on t.v. last night.
> funny I am the man. and as far as what I know or get as money is....
> is fuckng zero....
>and I still get no work, no job nd no help.....
>and they get to know what happens.
>
>Hay as long as all these gus I knew for 30 years work and got paid....
>what else is there. and if I ask one thing. like was the psyco in the
>movie...
>I get to wait till judgement day or t.v. last night too see.......
>
>Like I said.....I died so they could live......
>
>chill bill did you not know who take it...
>
>sir.You put it all on me and you gave me zero......you rip me off......
>
> :) Biking year round:)
> :) Hiking year round:)
> :) Trails are so cool:)
> :>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863767 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 18:19 |
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PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:04:09 -0500, CoffeeTime101 [at] webtv.net (Coffee
Time) wrote:
>oh I am sorry. I well get on my bike and go find work sir......because
>why.
>
>you said I can work......
>
> :) Biking year round:)
> :) Hiking year round:)
> :) Trails are so cool:)
> :>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863768 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 18:19 |
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PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:05:05 -0500, CoffeeTime101 [at] webtv.net (Coffee
Time) wrote:
>only thing I got was billed. not a god dam cent ever......zero zippo
>nada a fucking thing ever.
>
> :) Biking year round:)
> :) Hiking year round:)
> :) Trails are so cool:)
> :>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863769 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 18:19 |
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PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:06:01 -0500, CoffeeTime101 [at] webtv.net (Coffee
Time) wrote:
>they evan took my map to my ultra run.
>to build a golf corse.
>
> :) Biking year round:)
> :) Hiking year round:)
> :) Trails are so cool:)
> :>) What else is there?:>)
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863771 ] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 18:29 |
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GregValentino [at] gimail.com wrote:
> PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYCHO
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:06:01 -0500, CoffeeTime101 [at] webtv.net (Coffee
> Time) wrote:
>
> >they evan took my map to my ultra run.
> >to build a golf corse.
> >
> > :) Biking year round:)
> > :) Hiking year round:)
> > :) Trails are so cool:)
> > :>) What else is there?:>)
Four posts. That "gimail" beta can be tricky at times.
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863817 ] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 11:16 |
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Here's my training week
Monday - day off
Tuesday - 5.5 miles 41:31 easy
Wednesday - 4.8miles 31:54 mid tempo
Thursday - 4.3 miles 28:00 mid tempo
Friday - day off
Saturday - 7.9 miles 54:58 mid tempo
Sunday - Foxboro ten miler 59:27 new PR
Next Sunday Hyannis Marathon Relay looking to run under 1:18:36 for
13.1miles. It's just my brother and I don't the relay, looking to run
sub 2:44.
Happy Training,
Scott
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863821 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 00:51 |
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lanceandrew [at] aol.com wrote:
>We can all agree the characterization is one of opinion and relative.
>Agreed?
I would have perhaps agreed if you had provided your own answer to the
"what time on a flat 10k" question. In that way I would have been able to
judge your take on "tough".
If you'd said 39'xx becomes 36', then I'd agree it's tough. If you say
39'xx becomes 38'xx I say it ain't tough but it ain't a quick course. In
fact that's pretty much what I did say.
Remember also that you won't be running a sub-36k any time soon and even
at your best, 37' was more likely. At the time of your 39'xx, you were
recovering (at 80-85% capacity) so I reckon my 38'30 is a sound deduction.
Is that why you don't seem happy with what I wrote?
>Having established that foundation....what in your opinion
>then Steve is "tough"?
For example, the "Challenge de la Paix et du Souvenir" in Pompertuzat, a
village near where I live. It has more than 170m + and - elevation change
(more than 500ft up and the same down). The race organisers consider this
as "average difficulty" in their adverts.
There are numerous 10k, 21k and various non-standard distance races in
this area which have similar or greater elevation changes. I don't have to
look any further than my own back door. Do you want me too?
Don't even get me started on the Pyrenees road races the. Try the
Ascension of the Pla d'Adet that Lance Armstrong did on his bike during
the Tour de France. This is also done as an 11k summer road race, with a
+8.3% average slope.
All these seem to me to fit the "tough" trademark for a road race, though
I'd probably call the latter a mountain race cos the net elevation change
is not zero.
>I assert you're ignorant to Central Parks course
Central Park is the only place I ever ran in North America (plus a bit of
Broadway and the Avenues). OK, I am certainly nowhere near as familiar
with it as you, but I only need once round a race course to get the
feeling.
I ran quite a bit round the park, including a big chunk of your 10k
course. Maybe I missed all the 10% slopes.
>I assert you have no perspective from
>which to suggest the course is not "tough".
So you simply mean "tougher than flat" from your perspective is that it?
> I don't believe you know
>what you're talking about at all....quite frankly.... But perhpas I am
>wrong.
It does look that way but I'd be happy to see your point if others agree
that there's nothing way tougher in the North America.
And in that case, you'd have to concede that you're lacking perspective
too.
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863822 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 00:56 |
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lanceandrew [at] aol.com wrote:
>You told me the date, you told me how simple
>it was for me to be there and race you.
If I remember rightly, Charlie proposed to bet against you beating Tony on
the trail race. I have no recollection of him saying he would race you
there - he talked about racing you in NY.
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863823 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 01:15 |
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<lanceandrew [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140546946.927877.83920 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >When backed into a bet over the
> Escarpment Trail race you went into tearful hissy fit.
> ___
>
> I will be at your race in July Doug...and you and Tony S can both have
> the same bet. Me v. Tony S....the victor buys the other a new pair of
> running shoes not to exceed $100. Fair and gentlemenly enough? I
> offer that to Tony, I offer that to you too Doug.
Just like what I had in mind in the first place, accepted.
-Tony
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863824 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 13:15 |
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<lanceandrew [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140546946.927877.83920 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >When backed into a bet over the
> Escarpment Trail race you went into tearful hissy fit.
> ___
>
> I will be at your race in July Doug...and you and Tony S can both have
> the same bet. Me v. Tony S....the victor buys the other a new pair of
> running shoes not to exceed $100. Fair and gentlemenly enough? I
> offer that to Tony, I offer that to you too Doug.
You keep the money between you and Tony. I predict you will not even
make it to the starting line unless you forego all training for this
race and that would make ultra stupid and guarantee you shit the bed big
time. You are struggling so hard to prove to this group and maybe some
of your local buds that you are this magnificent plump speed demon, that
you will not devote the time necessary to get to this race prepared.
If you think you can prepare for this race in Central park or any park
in the city, you are sadly mistaken. This means you will need to drive
or take a train as others do and get to say Bear Mountain every few
weeks to do some serious training. This training will take you from your
Big D contests in Central park and I know your pseudo bravado could not
tolerate missing a Big D contest to train.
Hint - you better think about working up to a long run of about 4 hours
with oodles of elevation and shitty footing with a camel back or waist
holster with your favorite fluid plus some salt and food. Sorry dude,
no accolades when it's just you and the timber rattlers. I don't think
you have the balls to put in the time and effort for a single race. At
this time I think you're all idle chatter but I would be the first to
congratulate you if you show and finish sans a body bag. Talk is
cheap!!!!!
-DF
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863828 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 13:56 |
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Pendejo, twice you=92ve elected to spout off & challenge me to race you.
You named the details to which I accepted with clarification of the
wager at hand. Ever since I accepted your challenge you=92re silent.
Can we agree that the wager is the loser buys the victor a new pair of
running shoes (not exceeding $100)? I=92m baffled by your silence and
inability to bring congruent action=85.to your words. This is all an
invention of yours, not mine. I simply am stepping up to your
challenge. Care to bring some credence to your talk Pendejo?
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863829 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 15:49 |
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>Talk is cheap!!!!!
____
Agreed. Pass the word to Pendejo (aka the Brooklyn Dodger). Tell me
though Doug....several times Doug you've mocked WAVA grading. Why is
that?
imo it's an effective yardstick to measure performance across
generations or runners. you Doug just the other days stressed "mano y
mano". that's all well & good....but is it not silly to assert a
notion of "man v. man" when one man is 25 and the other is 75?
what's so (in your terms & language) "wussy" about referencing AG%
performance....as the foundation to frame & measure race results? you
and others have repeatedly mocked this concept. now because i had a
race wherein i out performed donovan using this measure.....most around
here "gave me the business" over using that. just the other day
Pendejo joked about it. now i assume this collective mocking was done
so due to the fact that it was outspoken me that outperformed donovan
on this paremeter of measure.....and that in truth...you all feel it
has its valid and appropriate place....in functioning as a measure of
performance across all runners in a singular event. Otherwise.....you
are asserting that all runner's performance should be measured blind of
age.
in my local circuit....i tip my cap to the guys 10 and 20 years older
than me that i might beat on time....however i know full well they
"outperformed me". i don't fool myself. What's the foundation,
basis, and rationale about mocking WAVA grading?
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863830 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 14:07 |
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On 2006-02-22, Parker Race <prace [at] nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> A 39:30 in central park is worth mid 38s on a flat and fast course.
>
> Just curious, is this the course in question?
>
> http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=32789.
Yes, that's it. It's not terrible, but certainly not flat and fast either. As
Steve noted, Mottram ran mid 28s on it.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
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| Re: Training Week Ending February 19, 2006 [message #863841 ] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 16:46 |
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"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:slrndvo4gh.2ln.abuse [at] panix2.panix.com...
> On 2006-02-22, Tony S. <email_tonys [at] NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, the pictures in your linked article looked exactly like the
race,
> > and they were definitely hoofing it up the hills. It says one hill goes
up
> > 100 feet in 300 yards, though if you're trying to go fast. With the
> > cinder/mud in the flats frozen it probably ran pretty fast.
>
> Based on the letsrun thread, it looks like they ran the race on the flats.
Well, on the ESPN2 broadcast, they were very clearly racing up hills on the
cinder trails with railroad ties across, even the 4k's showed that, so it
wasn't just pure flats.
-T
> The hill that is mentioned there is cemetary hill. Parts of it are really
> steep (probably >20%). Which is easy if you want to average 12 minutes per
> mile or so, but it's hard enough to make your time quite a bit slower.
>
> It also makes for some interesting variation, because you really can't run
the
> course by even effort. The downs are too steep for that. So you basically
run
> the ups very hard, and recover a bit on the downs.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi
> http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
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