| Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088370] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 17:24 |
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Wednesday's paper said that last Sunday's AFL match between the Wharfies
(Fremantle) and the Colliwobbles (Collingwood) was full of blatant diving.
(I take it that means the respective club officials are back from their
sightseeing tour of Germany now.)
Fremantle's coach Chris Connolly is calling for a new law against diving in
Aussie Rules. Methinks it's already covered by the provisions dealing with
'conduct unbecoming' and no new rule is necessary.
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Fri, 21 July 2006 17:55 |
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088384 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 18:11 |
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"yitzak" <terryshamir [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Who the hell is Aussie?
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> Is there a Federation who plays with their own rules?
Stupid game, nothing to do with football.
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Sat, 22 July 2006 00:55 |
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088457 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 01:39 |
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yitzak wrote:
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> There is a game called Aussie Football? You don''t mean American
> football or Rugby?
Assuming you are not trollingand really don't know, there is a game
called Australian Rules Football which is very popular in Australia,
particularly in Melbourne. It is played on a very large Oval pitch (a
cricket pitch, actually, I believe) with an oval ball like a rugby ball.
Goals are scored by kicking the ball through large vertical goals, with
a second set of posts outside these giving you fewer points. I am by no
means an expert on the rules, but it is a tough game and quite
entertaining to watch. Much better than American or Canadian Football
The game it is most like is Gaelic football. If one were to draw
diagram of the various types of football aligned in terms of how
important kicking the ball is, it would look
like this (top to bottom)
Association Football (soccer)
Gaelic Fooball
Australian Rules Football
Rugby Union
Rugby League
Canadian Football
American Football
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> Diabolik wrote:
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>>"yitzak" <terryshamir [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:1153497325.443758.81290 [at] i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>>>X-No-archive: yes
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>>>Who the hell is Aussie?
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>>>Is there a Federation who plays with their own rules?
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>>Stupid game, nothing to do with football.
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088459 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 01:56 |
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> > There is a game called Aussie Football? You don''t mean American
> > football or Rugby?
>
> The game it is most like is Gaelic football. If one were to draw
> diagram of the various types of football aligned in terms of how
> important kicking the ball is, it would look
> like this (top to bottom)
>
> Association Football (soccer)
> Gaelic Fooball
> Australian Rules Football
> Rugby Union
> Rugby League
> Canadian Football
> American Football
>
Agreed, that's about the importance of kicking (or playing the ball
with one's foot). Yes, there is a game called Australian Rules Football
and it's a fine sport, there's even another group called
aus.sport.aussie-rules. So please use that to discuss that sport not a
football group.
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088465 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 02:53 |
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"Tassie" <bheckscher15 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153526215.061248.148140 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> > There is a game called Aussie Football? You don''t mean American
>> > football or Rugby?
>>
>> The game it is most like is Gaelic football. If one were to draw
>> diagram of the various types of football aligned in terms of how
>> important kicking the ball is, it would look
>> like this (top to bottom)
>>
>> Association Football (soccer)
>> Gaelic Fooball
>> Australian Rules Football
>> Rugby Union
>> Rugby League
>> Canadian Football
>> American Football
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> Agreed, that's about the importance of kicking (or playing the ball
> with one's foot). Yes, there is a game called Australian Rules Football
> and it's a fine sport, there's even another group called
> aus.sport.aussie-rules. So please use that to discuss that sport not a
> football group.
I was talking about diving and how it has spread to another football code.
That is on-topic.
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088466 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 03:00 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:39:01 -0600, MH <nospam [at] ucalgary.ca> wrote:
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>yitzak wrote:
>> X-No-archive: yes
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>> There is a game called Aussie Football? You don''t mean American
>> football or Rugby?
>
>Assuming you are not trollingand really don't know, there is a game
>called Australian Rules Football which is very popular in Australia,
>particularly in Melbourne. It is played on a very large Oval pitch (a
>cricket pitch, actually, I believe) with an oval ball like a rugby ball.
>Goals are scored by kicking the ball through large vertical goals, with
>a second set of posts outside these giving you fewer points. I am by no
>means an expert on the rules, but it is a tough game and quite
>entertaining to watch. Much better than American or Canadian Football
Find it hard to believe he's not trolling myself, but just in case he
has never seen Aussie Rules....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnUU4ojXXFs&search=aussie%20r ules
>The game it is most like is Gaelic football. If one were to draw
>diagram of the various types of football aligned in terms of how
>important kicking the ball is, it would look
>like this (top to bottom)
>
>Association Football (soccer)
>Gaelic Fooball
And for those who have never seen Gaelic Football......
http://youtube.com/watch?v=StcMJkQ80ns&search=gaelic%20f ootball
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zmxggTIZhws&search=gaelic%20f ootball
This is Gaelic Football's sister sport, Hurling. Played on the same
size pitch, same number of players, many of the same rules, but played
with sticks and a small ball....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VpVhDi_J15A&search=hurling
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UZT79K-Mjqc&search=hurling
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uXR6vu302lA&search=hurling
>Australian Rules Football
>Rugby Union
>Rugby League
>Canadian Football
>American Football
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>> Diabolik wrote:
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>>>"yitzak" <terryshamir [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:1153497325.443758.81290 [at] i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>>>>X-No-archive: yes
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>>>>Who the hell is Aussie?
>>>>
>>>>Is there a Federation who plays with their own rules?
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>>>Stupid game, nothing to do with football.
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088487 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 08:46 |
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MH wrote:
>Much better than American or Canadian Football
What is 'Canadian Football'? Never heard of it.
Blair
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088523 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 17:11 |
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"Blair Kavanagh" <blairomatic [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>>Much better than American or Canadian Football
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> What is 'Canadian Football'? Never heard of it.
Small variation of "American Football". Here in the States/Canada every
league likes to have their own rules, thus American Football (NFL) has
their own, Canadian Football (CFL) a slightly different set, and
Universities and Colleges (NCAA) yet another slightly different set, and
I'd beet High School American Football will be slightly different from any
of the above, but I'm not sure
Almost the same thing in Association Football. MLS and most adult leagues
play using FIFA Laws. High School has their own slightly different rules.
And in College we have the NCAA slightly different set of rules, with
Junior Colleges differing from all of the above (but closer to FIFA).
Drives referees crazy but gives the rules/laws committees a good excuse to
meet yearly in a nice place (say Hawaii) to review the rules. The more
different league structures the greater the number of top dog positions.
-- HASM
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088567 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 01:27 |
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Blair Kavanagh wrote:
> MH wrote:
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>>Much better than American or Canadian Football
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> What is 'Canadian Football'? Never heard of it.
Canadian football is , like American football (gridiron) a descendant of
Rugby. The rules evolved slightly differently in Canada, but to someone
not familiar with the game, you wouldn't distinguish it from American
Football at first glance (just as you would not distinguish between
rugby league and rugby Union if you didn't know anything about them).
Major differences:
Field is bigger in Canada
End zones are different
Location of goal posts is different
12 players on a team vs. 11 in the US
Only three downs instead of four.
This last rule is what makes kicking the ball more important and more
frequent in Canadian football.
There are other differences in rules, but they are more subtle. Passing
is much more important than running the ball. More interesting game
IMHO (though both are boring to me compared to soccer and rugby), but
the standard of play and athleticism in the CFL is nowhere near as high
as in the NFL.
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> Blair
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| Re: Diving infests Aussie Rules [message #1088577 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 03:21 |
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yitzak wrote:
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> There is a game called Aussie Football? You don''t mean American
> football or Rugby?
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> Diabolik wrote:
> > "yitzak" <terryshamir [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:1153497325.443758.81290 [at] i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > X-No-archive: yes
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> > > Who the hell is Aussie?
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> > > Is there a Federation who plays with their own rules?
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> > Stupid game, nothing to do with football.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Australian+Ru les+football
Item 3, by one Petzk
(start-quote)
Imagine a game of soccer.
Now take the following steps to reduce the skill as much as possible;
1) Remove the crossbar, so the ball can be kicked 10 meters over the
opponents heads and still be a goal.
2) Reward the players with 1/6th of a goal for missing the target.
3) Remove the offside rule, so the forwards literally just stand around
in front of their oppositions' goal and wait for someone to kick the
ball to them.
4) Allow players to use their hands to catch and punch the ball.
5) Carrying on from point 4), give a player a free kick every time they
catch the ball.
6) Change the shape of the ball so that it can travel further when
kicked. This will help reduce the amount of passing ( = teamwork)
needed to get the ball from one end of the field to another.
7) Remove all strategy. Make supporters so dumb that they actually
*complain* when teams employ basic tactics such as flooding the
defence, holding up the ball to look for a decent pass and running the
clock down while keeping possession at the end of a match.
Now add some silly and fairly arbitary rules such as;
1) It is against the rules to push a player in the back, but it is
allowed to run in from behind him, jump up, stick your knees into his
back and catch the ball.
2) If you tackle (= bear hug & throw to the ground) a player, you get a
free kick. Unless the umpire decides the tackled player did not have a
chance to get rid of the ball before/while he was being tackled, in
that case the umpire will bounce the ball instead. Unless in the course
of the tackle you pushed him in the back - in that case he gets the
free kick. Understand?
There you go, that is Australian Rules Football.
(end-quote)
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