| Re: My neighbor's trip to the World Cup Finals [message #1088488 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 08:55 |
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Mark V. wrote:
> > Although the stories cited are likely hyperbolic, there is no doubt one
> > can find the 'ugly American' tourist if looking for it. Once in the
> > Frankfurt airport I saw a family cutting in on a very long passport line
> > to get to a flight - every other person in line was also in a rush, but
> > this did not deter them.
Ok Mark, what about the drunken pack of Aussies who formed an almighty
rugby scrum and tried to knock over one of the stones at Stonehenge?
Notice they put a fence around it nowaday's? I wonder why?!
Blair ;-)
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| Re: My neighbor's trip to the World Cup Finals [message #1088501 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 11:45 |
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I knew someone who I went to college (northern Italian) with here in LA
who's dad ran the dining room at a famous celebrity hangout who originally
vetoed his son's marriage to an otherwise terrific lady because her family
was originally southern Italians...
There's some truth to your statement-but in this case, my neighbor (and his
party) were part of a corporate junket with a major WC sponsor.
I always had the feeling that southern Italians in general, and Sicilians in
particular, were considered by northeners to be one step short of being an
Arab.....
<Fabiorossi5 [at] yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1153544181.858647.184260 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Were the Italian fans northern or southern Italians? If they were
> Northern Italians they generally do not like Italian Americans. Most
> northerners assume Italian-Americans are from the south and they hate
> Sicilians or anyone from Rome or further south. In the notherners
> view, no Italian in the north would have emigrated to the USA as
> northern Italy is a paradise. Been there seen that.
>
> More than a few articles mentioned how the WC Azurri brought Italians
> closer together....at least for a few days It is common for Italains
> to ask each other where they come from when meeting. It is the first
> thing they ask and there is a lot of prejuduce.
>
>
> Frankie Boy wrote:
>> By the way, my neighbor is full Sicilian/American and I am half
>> Sicilian...
>>
>> Just relaying the story...reflects what some think about American
>> ignorance
>> when it comes to the world of futbol.
>>
>> "rhonaldinko" <rhonaldinko [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153329546.528204.289070 [at] s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Your neighbors are racist bullshiters. Stop trying to stir the pot and
>> > create hate between races asshole.
>> >
>> >
>> > Frankie Boy wrote:
>> >> My neighbor just got back from his trip to the finals...
>> >>
>> >> He told me that the Italian fans were willing to pay $8000 per seat
>> >> (ouch!)-and made snotty comments to my neighbor and his group along
>> >> the
>> >> lines of:
>> >>
>> >> "You Americans don't even deserve to go"
>> >>
>> >> Well, one of the Italians asked my neighbor and his group "Do you even
>> >> know
>> >> who is playing?"
>> >>
>> >> To which a guy, with a lot of Boston attitude, responded
>> >>
>> >> "The Yankees and the Red Sox" :)
>> >>
>> >> All heck broke loose, with ultimately the cops having to distance the
>> >> two
>> >> groups...comments like "this is why everyone hates Americans"...
>> >>
>> >> I don't know, but my dad always had a saying that went
>> >>
>> >> "You ask a stupid question, you get a stupid action"
>> >>
>> >> In otherwords, those guys got the response they deserved!
>
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| Re: My neighbor's trip to the World Cup Finals [message #1088526 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 17:33 |
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Blair Kavanagh wrote:
> Mark V. wrote:
> > > Although the stories cited are likely hyperbolic, there is no doubt one
> > > can find the 'ugly American' tourist if looking for it. Once in the
> > > Frankfurt airport I saw a family cutting in on a very long passport line
> > > to get to a flight - every other person in line was also in a rush, but
> > > this did not deter them.
>
> Ok Mark, what about the drunken pack of Aussies who formed an almighty
> rugby scrum and tried to knock over one of the stones at Stonehenge?
>
> Notice they put a fence around it nowaday's? I wonder why?!
>
> Blair ;-)
Blair,
That wasn't my post! I tend to think that Americans are generally very
respectful queuers.
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| Re: My neighbor's trip to the World Cup Finals [message #1088585 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 04:36 |
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"Mark V." <markvanderv1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153494406.414481.26120 [at] 75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Jason Maxwell wrote:
>
> > >
> > I think it's mainly because there's so much to do in the U.S. Hell,
I've
> > been visiting National Parks in the West for as long as I can remember
(I'm
> > 31) and I still have a number I haven't gotten to just in the ones west
of
> > the Rockies, the biggest being Yosemite.
> >
>
> "He just smiled and gave me a Yosemite sandwich."
>
> Gotta get there! I once took a roadtrip thru the west in which we hit
> at least 10 NPs. I'm not into the favorites game, but Yosemite is truly
> a special park. Try to avoid it on summer weekends, though!
>
My current top 2 are Glacier and Zion. Yosemite has been just far enough
away from my two places of residences (It's really not on the way to
anywhere) that I haven't gotten to it. I had reservations at the park hotel
in Aug of 2003, but I got laid off in July of that year and had to cancel
them.
Jason
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| Re: My neighbor's trip to the World Cup Finals [message #1088602 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 07:02 |
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Well this is somewhat true in Germany as well. The northern Germans
(mostly Protestant) think the Bavarians in the south (mostly Catholic)
are hillbillies. One article I read had some snotty crap about Germans
in the south actually attending church regularly - like it was a bad
thing. The made them out to be fundamentalist religious zealots.
The big joke is the Bavarians have better weather and the Alps are
right there. Munich is far more appealing than Hamburg.
Yeah Italians always ask each other "where are you from" and many do
not like each other for that reason. It does not have to be south or
north. The Italians joke about some German tourists being arrogant,
pushy & pompous but the northern Italians sometimes can make Germans
look charming.
Frankie Boy wrote:
> I knew someone who I went to college (northern Italian) with here in LA
> who's dad ran the dining room at a famous celebrity hangout who originally
> vetoed his son's marriage to an otherwise terrific lady because her family
> was originally southern Italians...
>
> There's some truth to your statement-but in this case, my neighbor (and his
> party) were part of a corporate junket with a major WC sponsor.
>
> I always had the feeling that southern Italians in general, and Sicilians in
> particular, were considered by northeners to be one step short of being an
> Arab.....
>
> <Fabiorossi5 [at] yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:1153544181.858647.184260 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > Were the Italian fans northern or southern Italians? If they were
> > Northern Italians they generally do not like Italian Americans. Most
> > northerners assume Italian-Americans are from the south and they hate
> > Sicilians or anyone from Rome or further south. In the notherners
> > view, no Italian in the north would have emigrated to the USA as
> > northern Italy is a paradise. Been there seen that.
> >
> > More than a few articles mentioned how the WC Azurri brought Italians
> > closer together....at least for a few days It is common for Italains
> > to ask each other where they come from when meeting. It is the first
> > thing they ask and there is a lot of prejuduce.
> >
> >
> > Frankie Boy wrote:
> >> By the way, my neighbor is full Sicilian/American and I am half
> >> Sicilian...
> >>
> >> Just relaying the story...reflects what some think about American
> >> ignorance
> >> when it comes to the world of futbol.
> >>
> >> "rhonaldinko" <rhonaldinko [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1153329546.528204.289070 [at] s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Your neighbors are racist bullshiters. Stop trying to stir the pot and
> >> > create hate between races asshole.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Frankie Boy wrote:
> >> >> My neighbor just got back from his trip to the finals...
> >> >>
> >> >> He told me that the Italian fans were willing to pay $8000 per seat
> >> >> (ouch!)-and made snotty comments to my neighbor and his group along
> >> >> the
> >> >> lines of:
> >> >>
> >> >> "You Americans don't even deserve to go"
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, one of the Italians asked my neighbor and his group "Do you even
> >> >> know
> >> >> who is playing?"
> >> >>
> >> >> To which a guy, with a lot of Boston attitude, responded
> >> >>
> >> >> "The Yankees and the Red Sox" :)
> >> >>
> >> >> All heck broke loose, with ultimately the cops having to distance the
> >> >> two
> >> >> groups...comments like "this is why everyone hates Americans"...
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know, but my dad always had a saying that went
> >> >>
> >> >> "You ask a stupid question, you get a stupid action"
> >> >>
> >> >> In otherwords, those guys got the response they deserved!
> >
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| Re: My neighbor's trip to the World Cup Finals [message #1088694 ] |
Mon, 24 July 2006 02:41 |
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<Fabiorossi5 [at] yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1153544181.858647.184260 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Were the Italian fans northern or southern Italians? If they were
> Northern Italians they generally do not like Italian Americans. Most
> northerners assume Italian-Americans are from the south and they hate
> Sicilians or anyone from Rome or further south.
Hate??? Where do you get this rubbish from???
> In the notherners
> view, no Italian in the north would have emigrated to the USA as
> northern Italy is a paradise. Been there seen that.
Northern Italy wasn't a paradise after WW2, it was devasted like the rest of
Italy.
Many Northern Italians migrated, almost as much as Southern Italians, for
economical reasons and because of the instability of North-East Italy.
> More than a few articles mentioned how the WC Azurri brought Italians
> closer together....at least for a few days It is common for Italains
> to ask each other where they come
Are you Italian? Do you ask where other Italians come from?
You would know anyway because of their accent.
Maybe you're not Italian, or you would know this.
> from when meeting. It is the first
> thing they ask and there is a lot of prejuduce.
It's like every where else, prejuduce only amongst the ignorant.
>
> Frankie Boy wrote:
> > By the way, my neighbor is full Sicilian/American and I am half
Sicilian...
> >
> > Just relaying the story...reflects what some think about American
ignorance
> > when it comes to the world of futbol.
> >
> > "rhonaldinko" <rhonaldinko [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1153329546.528204.289070 [at] s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Your neighbors are racist bullshiters. Stop trying to stir the pot and
> > > create hate between races asshole.
> > >
> > >
> > > Frankie Boy wrote:
> > >> My neighbor just got back from his trip to the finals...
> > >>
> > >> He told me that the Italian fans were willing to pay $8000 per seat
> > >> (ouch!)-and made snotty comments to my neighbor and his group along
the
> > >> lines of:
> > >>
> > >> "You Americans don't even deserve to go"
> > >>
> > >> Well, one of the Italians asked my neighbor and his group "Do you
even
> > >> know
> > >> who is playing?"
> > >>
> > >> To which a guy, with a lot of Boston attitude, responded
> > >>
> > >> "The Yankees and the Red Sox" :)
> > >>
> > >> All heck broke loose, with ultimately the cops having to distance the
two
> > >> groups...comments like "this is why everyone hates Americans"...
> > >>
> > >> I don't know, but my dad always had a saying that went
> > >>
> > >> "You ask a stupid question, you get a stupid action"
> > >>
> > >> In otherwords, those guys got the response they deserved!
>
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