| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085618 ] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 23:34 |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:38:51 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem [at] ispwest.com>
with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally
able to type out the following:
>Nemesis wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:47:20 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem [at] ispwest.com>
>> with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally
>> able to type out the following:
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>>>kitekrazy wrote:
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>>>>"grativo" <grativo [at] aol.com> wrote in
>>>>news:1152907110.161415.3360 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
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>>>>>>The whole reason for the protracted conflict is that neither side has
>>>>>>the guts to commit to what needs to be done even though the writing's
>>>>>>on the wall. Pitiful suicide bombings and kidnappings, or "ferocious"
>>>>>>responses leaving infrastructure and civilization intact are not
>>>>>>going to do it.
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>>>>>I think Israelies have shown more guts, because they're saying they're
>>>>>not opposed to living beside some kind of a palestinian state.<
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>>>> Only because of pressure from the outside world. Interesting that no one
>>>>in the Middle East wants the Palestinians.
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>>>Maybe you noticed they don't want the israelis, either.
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>> Apparently you haven't noticed that the rest of the Middle East is
>> composed mostly of Muslims who hate Jews so only an idiot would make
>> that kind of comparison.
>
>Only an idiot wouldn't think to wonder WHY they hate the jews.
Only an idiot wouldn't know that they (as a group) hate everyone
that's not Muslim.
Why don't you tell us why you hate Jews so much.
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085624 ] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 23:41 |
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On 2006-07-16 14:00:07 -0700, Tim McGaughy <teekem [at] ispwest.com> said:
> They're not at war with the arabs, you dumb uneducated fuck.
Unfortunately, you are describing yourself far better with that, than
you opponent.
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085626 ] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 23:42 |
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On 2006-07-16 14:13:05 -0700, Tim McGaughy <teekem [at] ispwest.com> said:
> Mr Bigun wrote:
>> Darwin's Law.. You Lost!!
> I got a kid, chump. I've already won. You need to get started on a
> girlfriend before YOU lose.
He reproduced - we ALL lose.
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085627 ] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 23:43 |
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> Isreal has nukes. Watch how Bush will support Isreals use of them.
Chances are he gave them to Isreal, and in typically Bushesque fashion,
its no longer "convenient" for them be in possesion of them.
And being a middle eastern country, they are a part of the "axis of
evil", so they can look forwar to a frenzied and hostile attack from
America...
Mind you, seeing as we are STILL under Blairs thumb over here (and I
dont know of anyone that admits to voting him in incidently), we will
just bend over and let Bush fuck us in the ass.
Anyone got any lube?
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085628 ] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 23:47 |
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"Zoolook" <mr.zoolook [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nqyug.88234$181.53025 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Isreal has nukes. Watch how Bush will support Isreals use of them.
>
> Chances are he gave them to Isreal
>
people who are ignorant should shut up.
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085630 ] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 23:43 |
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On 2006-07-16 13:38:51 -0700, Tim McGaughy <teekem [at] ispwest.com> said:
> Only an idiot wouldn't think to wonder WHY they hate the jews.
Ah, it's "the jews'" fault now - that's a pretty wide brush you have
there, bud!
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085670 ] |
Mon, 17 July 2006 00:41 |
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"Zoolook" <mr.zoolook [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nqyug.88234$181.53025 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Isreal has nukes. Watch how Bush will support Isreals use of them.
>
> Chances are he gave them to Isreal, and in typically Bushesque fashion,
Um, Israel had nukes before Papa Bush was president.
What a moron.
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085767 ] |
Mon, 17 July 2006 03:00 |
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On 2006-07-16 16:23:58 -0700, Jorgé Kilmister
<jkilmister [at] motorhead.co.uk> said:
>> Only an idiot wouldn't think to wonder WHY they hate the jews.
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> Its pretty simple. They hate circumcision.
Not for their women, they don't.
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085831 ] |
Mon, 17 July 2006 03:20 |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:00:00 -0700, DaffyDuck
<daffyduck [at] spammersdie.mac.dot.com> with the help of a thousand
monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to type out the
following:
>On 2006-07-16 16:23:58 -0700, Jorgé Kilmister
><jkilmister [at] motorhead.co.uk> said:
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>>> Only an idiot wouldn't think to wonder WHY they hate the jews.
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>> Its pretty simple. They hate circumcision.
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>Not for their women, they don't.
That's Africans, not Muslims.
I think Muslims do it for religion reasons the same as Jews.
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| Re: Complaining About the "ferocity" of the Israeli response... [message #1085836 ] |
Mon, 17 July 2006 03:20 |
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> Atlas Bugged wrote:
>> Cute. I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where Israel announced that
>> the Arab/Muslim world must be destroyed, no matter what they do or do not
>> do.
"Tim McGaughy" <teekem [at] ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:e9e9d402vu5 [at] enews2.newsguy.com...
> You must have also missed the part where an israeli general announced that
> he was going to rewind Lebanon's clock about 20 years.
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> I guess they're happy replaying the last 20 years of this shit.
And you clearly dodged the point. You have me at the point where I can't
tell if you're intentionally trying to play games, or if you are dumb as
rocks, or - as it appears - you simply reject morality altogether. Lets try
again:
The point: Islamic adherents want the Jews dead, period. They've said so.
They've behaved so. This is a moral issue, one party has declared an open
intention, non-negotiable, to commit genocidal murder.
Your answer is to cite the Israeli plan to attack back? Are you out of your
mind? I hope so, because the alternative is ugly.
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> Nothing sub about it. You think the israelis are shining knights in
> spotless armor.
That's crap. They are socialist and religious, either of which is more than
sufficient for me to think they're idiots. But even a career criminal -
which I am not analogizing to Israel - may counter an approaching murderer
with deadly force.
>> Let's try again: The Arabs want Israel destroyed.
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> The israelis want the arabs destroyed.
That is bullshit. The Israelis want anyone destroyed who plans to kill
them, then acts on it. So do you, so do I. There is nothing about Arabs or
Islam that the Israelis care about at all. Again, you are either unable to
think in terms of essentials or...worse.
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> Gee, it's so fun to paint with the big brushes. Let's talk about past
> israeli policies like exacting retribution on a terrorist's FAMILY whether
> or not they've even been in contact with him for years. We'll talk about
> grabbing land under the stated intent of trying to control the border, but
> in fact simply letting israeli citizens settle on it. Ir onically,
> requiring another land grab to protect THEM.
You do not understand what war is either. Do you believe that the Allies in
WWII had some sort of obligation to retreat because civilians might get
hurt? That their duty was to just die if German folks were in the way?
>
> Then, lets pretend every israeli is personally responsible for these acts.
War is a collective act. I reject collectivism unequivocally, but war
cannot be avoided by the victimized nation. The aggressor forces the war.
All deaths in Lebanon are at the hands of Hezbollah.
Your mind is at the level of a crow, not a human. The rapist and his victim
are not the same because each is throwing fists. That's basically your
mentality.
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> No, they don't. They want revenge.
Bullshit. You are pulling that out of your ass. The Israelis could have
made the Arab Mideast an oven anytime they wanted for the last decades.
>
> Someone who wants peace doesn't rip into another nation over one kidnapped
> soldier.
Of course, it is not over one soldier, that is true. All of a sudden you
display insight above what's absolutely concrete. How about that.
>
> They're not at war with the arabs, you dumb uneducated fuck. They're at
> ware with the lebanese. and they're currently putting muslims, christians,
> american citizens, british citizens, french citizens at risk.
It's called war, duh. Israel has no choice, and everyone uninvolved needs
to get out. All deaths there, every one, is pure Hezbollah.
>
> You think lebanon is just muslims?
No. Straw man.
>Gross ignorance.
I wish that were true of you. It appears the situation is far worse.
>
>>>Nothing eludes me, and that includes attempts to demonize an opponent.
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>> The "opponent" openly demands murder.
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> So do the israelis.
Do you grok the difference between "murder" and "killing?" I don't think
you do.
I went through this with the religionists some years ago. There's that
"shalt not kill" bit, and I said that was wildly wrong and immoral. Why?
If someone is firing on me, why shouldn't I fire back? How about I have a
gun, and an armed predator is trying to rape and kill a child? Don't kill?
You gotta be shittin' me.
Naturally, the believers came back with "interpretation." Nobody could
assail my point, so I wound up with several adversaries all telling me they
looked it up, and the usual language of the Bible is misleading, and
actually means "...shalt not murder."
Lot's of double-dealing religious bullshit there, but the point is that you
do not seem to even be at this point of understanding. The fact of pulling
a trigger is your entire world. The moral dimension of why it might have
been pulled - which is all that matters - is opaque to you, at least as you
are presenting your dishonest-appearing argument.
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